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Old 07-20-2017, 11:41 AM
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Imagine the headlines if something had happened and the Queen did fall. Two bumbling statesmen stood there and allowed the Queen to tumble. Thats a headline we certainly don't need.
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Old 07-20-2017, 12:22 PM
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It was the daily fail who started this nonsense yesterday, and now there are stupid articles about it in almost all UK news sites.

The BBC has also written a stupid article about the Regal rules for meeting HM - read more:
Regal rules: The dos and don'ts for meeting the Queen - BBC News
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Canada's governor general has been forced to defend his actions after a "slippy" carpet led to a breach of royal etiquette with the Queen. But how do you avoid a protocol slip-up?

David Johnston raised eyebrows on Wednesday as he was seen to be lightly touching Her Majesty's elbow as she descended some steps, at an event in London.

Mr Johnston said he was simply concerned about the Queen's safety and made the judgement that a breach of protocol was appropriate "to be sure that there was no stumble".

To avoid any future mishaps, however, here is a reminder of the traditional dos and don'ts.
Video - CTV Royal Commentator Richard Berthelsen says the GG’s attempt to escort the Queen down the stairs was a nice gesture. He also said the following: The rules of the british press, which loves to go after people for things like this, when they themselves offends the royal family more often than not, really aren't to be followed:
CTV News Channel: 'A gentlemanly gesture' | CTV News
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Old 07-20-2017, 01:40 PM
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Video - CTV Royal Commentator Richard Berthelsen says the GG’s attempt to escort the Queen down the stairs was a nice gesture. He also said the following: The rules of the british press, which loves to go after people for things like this, when they themselves offends the royal family more often than not, really aren't to be followed:
CTV News Channel: 'A gentlemanly gesture' | CTV News

This is beautifully put.

Standard protocol is the Queen is not to be touched, but we have seen many occasions in which case that has been broken, and LOGIC sometimes proceeds protocol.

An individual providing support for a 91 year old woman as she walks on a slippery surface is just logical. I'd bet just about anything that the Queen probably appreciated the gesture.
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At seven years, David Johnston’s tenure as Canada’s governor general has been a little longer than the norm — the longest since Georges Vanier held the office from 1959 to 1967 — and it has covered a turbulent period in Canada’s political history. Johnston, a lawyer and university president before he came to Rideau Hall, welcomed Maclean’s to a sunlit corner of his official residence for a valedictory interview as he prepares to leave office on Oct. 2.

Johnston was candid about the two prime ministers he’s served, the debates that surrounded his appointment, and the inevitable debate over the future of the monarchy in Canada..
Read more: David Johnston: Before abolishing the monarchy, know what you're getting into - Macleans.ca
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Old 09-19-2017, 12:01 AM
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Thanks Rudolph!

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Q: Your other main interaction is with the Queen. Tell me about your last visit with her.

A: It was a bit nostalgic there because we both knew it was the last time we would see each other in this capacity. Of course the Queen is now 91. She’s remarkably physically and mentally acute, and it’s wonderful to be with her. We’ve found both her and her husband so down to earth, so warm, and in her case so very wise. Each time we’ve had the chance to meet I’ve had the sense of someone who’s seen more history than any other living person. It’s been quite a thrill to interact with her.

Q: She’s been the monarch for every Canadian-born governor general, from Vincent Massey to you. When her reign ends, would it be an appropriate time for a debate about the role of the monarchy in Canada?

A: Well, I’m sure there will be, as this debate is going on at all times, and appropriately so in a democracy. And other realms in the Commonwealth will have that debate. My own view is that we have an Act of Succession, the succession is clear, and my role and that of the other members of the vice-regal family is to make that as smooth as it possibly can be.
When I do get into these debates, very often with schoolchildren, I say, ‘You know, Canada has evolved since 1867. We’re the product of a thousand years of constitutional history. We’ve made changes, when changes were appropriate, in how we govern ourselves. But always be conscious of what it is you want. And if you’re making change, why that change seems quite compelling, and what you’re getting into. And if you wanted to name 10 countries around the world that seem to have government that pretty well satisfies the needs of the vast majority of people and has a degree of trust, you’d probably have on that list: Denmark, Sweden, Norway, the United Kingdom, Netherlands, Australia, New Zealand, Canada. What’s common to those? They’re all constitutional monarchies with vigorous parliamentary democracies. So something has been working well for us.
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Old 09-20-2017, 07:51 AM
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Canadian Governor General Designate Julie Payette was received by Queen Elizabeth for a private audience at Balmoral Castle today, September 20:


** gettyimages/zimbio gallery ** gg.ca press release **
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Twitter video of the audience in this article:
Incoming governor general Julie Payette meets the Queen - Politics - CBC News

I have one thing to say after watching that video, and it's that the Queen is just so damn cute sometimes.

Article from the fail (yes I know, but really worth a read/watch) It's about the library at Balmoral - one of the two rooms HM is using for audiences at the castle, but not the room she is using for british prime ministers:
Balmoral photo reveals the Queen's private space | Daily Mail Online
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Old 09-21-2017, 07:40 AM
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New General Designate, Julie Payette, meeting The Queen at Balmoral-
https://mobile.twitter.com/thomasdai...74539095773184

What a treat! Getting a chance to visit The Queen at Balmoral and get a history lesson on the castle.
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:46 AM
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Canadian Governor General Designate Julie Payette was received by Queen Elizabeth for a private audience at Balmoral Castle today, September 20:


** gettyimages/zimbio gallery ** gg.ca press release **

It appears that the GG Designate didn't curtsy to the Queen. Maybe she is not a committed monarchist (or royalist), which wouldn't surprise me frankly.
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:58 AM
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I could have sworn I saw a quick dip type of a curtsy as she approached HM with her hand extended for a handshake. It was a quick one but she did do it.
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Old 09-21-2017, 11:04 AM
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Watch the video. She does.
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Old 09-21-2017, 12:48 PM
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It appears that the GG Designate didn't curtsy to the Queen. Maybe she is not a committed monarchist (or royalist), which wouldn't surprise me frankly.
Aside from the fact that she did curtsy, why wouldn't you expect her to be "a committed monarchist"? She did accept the post of the Queen's representative in Canada.
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Old 09-21-2017, 01:12 PM
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Aside from the fact that she did curtsy, why wouldn't you expect her to be "a committed monarchist"? She did accept the post of the Queen's representative in Canada.
Because nothing prevents the PM from nominating a republican for the office of GG. Michaëlle Jean was widely rumored to be a republican and some of her predecessors like Adrienne Clarkson were not committed royalists either.
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Old 09-21-2017, 02:35 PM
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Adrienne Clarkson has called herself a monarchist. She had a different attitude towards what her role was than some of her predecessors, but she is a monarchist.

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.c...son-interview/
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Old 09-21-2017, 04:17 PM
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Twitter video of the audience in this article:
Incoming governor general Julie Payette meets the Queen - Politics - CBC News

I have one thing to say after watching that video, and it's that the Queen is just so damn cute sometimes.

Article from the fail (yes I know, but really worth a read/watch) It's about the library at Balmoral - one of the two rooms HM is using for audiences at the castle, but not the room she is using for british prime ministers:
Balmoral photo reveals the Queen's private space | Daily Mail Online
An article from the Telegraph - for those who don't read the fail:
All the comforts of one's home: Rare glimpse of Queen's life at Balmoral explained
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A photograph taken yesterday as Julie Payette, the governor general of Canada, was treated to a guided tour of the library at Balmoral Castle by the Queen, revealed a comfortable, homely style of decor that makes very few concessions to modern trends or ostentatious display.

Remarkably, some of the volumes are thought to have remained in the same place for 40 years, judging by a picture from the 1970s of the Queen and Prince Philip in the same room.
The Telegraph has numbered a photo of the library with descriptions below, the Fail has done the same - see it above in my quoted post from yesterday.
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Aside from the fact that she did curtsy, why wouldn't you expect her to be "a committed monarchist"? She did accept the post of the Queen's representative in Canada.
In the early 1980s the then Australian PM appointed the renowned republican - Bill Hayden - to the post of GG. He had been advocating for Australia to become a republic since the dismissal of the Whitlam government in 1975.

Strangely - while holding the post Hayden actually became a monarchist but when appointed was a staunch republican.

Being a monarchist or a republican is irrelevant to holding the post of de facto Head of State.
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Can someone enlighten me on how Governor Generals are 'picked'? I understand the current one was asked to stay two more years; was that the prime minister's decision, the queen's or someone else's? Thanks in advance!
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Can someone enlighten me on how Governor Generals are 'picked'? I understand the current one was asked to stay two more years; was that the prime minister's decision, the queen's or someone else's? Thanks in advance!
The selection is made by the queen but on recommendation of the serving PM. There is actually no set term for a GG, they simply serve at the pleasure of the queen. But in practice, it usually is 5 years. At times that has been extended.

https://lop.parl.ca/ParlInfo/pages/g...l.aspx?Menu=GG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Govern...eral_of_Canada

David Johnston entered office in 2010. He should have left office in 2015. But it was an election year. He was asked to extend his service for two years, offering a stability if the election ended up in a minority (hung) government. This was a very valid concern as Canada had three minority governments in recent years, under Stephen Harper. The issue comes when minority governments have short tenures ( Harper's lasted 1, 2, and 3 years instead of the 4 year standard term). It ended up being not needed, as Trudeau won a majority election but the decision had already been made.

The choice is meant to be non partisan but in the past many have been former politicians.

-Julie was a electronic engineer and a former CSA astronaut who has done 2 missions to the international space station
-David Johnston was a law professor and president of McGill University. He did work in politics helping draft some bills
-Michelle Jean was a news reporter, radio broadcaster and documentary film maker with her husband
-Adrienne Clarkson was also a journalist. She too served a longer term, six.

Romeo LeBlanc interestingly was a former teacher and journalist who worked for Trudeau's father as his press secretary. Unlike those since him, he served in the government himself before he was GG.
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Because nothing prevents the PM from nominating a republican for the office of GG. Michaëlle Jean was widely rumored to be a republican and some of her predecessors like Adrienne Clarkson were not committed royalists either.
That doesn't explain why you wouldn't be surprised if Mme Payette was not a monarchist. You refer to "rumours" of Jean and Clarkson's positions on the monarchy. In my view these rumours do not provide any justification for speculating about Mme. Payette's point of view.
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That doesn't explain why you wouldn't be surprised if Mme Payette was not a monarchist. You refer to "rumours" of Jean and Clarkson's positions on the monarchy. In my view these rumours do not provide any justification for speculating about Mme. Payette's point of view.

There are reasons to wonder about Payette's support of the monarchy. I can't fault Mbruno for that.

Payette is a francophone from Quebec. That in and of itself is enough to question whether she supports the monarchy and whether she supports Quebec sovereignty.

I can't find any recent statistics, but polls in 2009 showed that 78% of people in Quebec believe the monarchy should be ended. As recently as 2011, 41% of people surveyed still supported Quebec sovereignty.

It is only natural to expect questions on both issues to come up when the GG designate is from Quebec (which is every other GG). Payette has not entirely helped herself on this issue by evading answering when she was asked if she supported the monarchy.
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