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Old 03-05-2021, 11:59 AM
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I'm glad that your great-grandfather was able to live comfortably after receiving treatment. I certainly did not mean to imply that there was improper pressure on Philip. I was thinking of instances where the family insists on all sorts of treatment when they understandably don't want to let go. I don't think that happened here and I hope it doesn't. Philip deserves to have his decisions respected.
Right, but it's probably not too much of a stretch to imagine Philip's mindset of something consisting of "why" and "I don't want fuss" and "you must be out of your bloody mind" (approx. ), so for both him and Charles to hear the medical consensus that a procedure was both effective and safe, I'd imagine it gave Charles some leverage to try and gently nudge his father's opinions. If that's why Charles came to see him.

True end-of-life/palliative is one thing. Stubborn nonagenerians eligible for more options are another.
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Old 03-05-2021, 01:08 PM
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Can you imagine the pressure being the one performing angioplasty on the Queen's husband without anesthesia?
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Old 03-05-2021, 02:07 PM
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I am glad he is doing better. He is set in his way and don't like fuss, yes that is the DoE.
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Old 03-05-2021, 02:53 PM
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I think the fact he has been taken back to King Edward VIIs is good - it shows they think he is making good enough progress and no longer at any risk of heart issues or they wouldn't send him back from a specialist hospital.

As for Philip getting an op - my grandmother is 81 and was recently told she was too old /frail to have a bypass. Not saying she is in the same boat as Phil (as we don't know exactly what he had done) but they must have thought he was strong enough to take an op and recover enough to make it worthwhile.
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Old 03-05-2021, 05:02 PM
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Can you imagine the pressure being the one performing angioplasty on the Queen's husband without anesthesia?
A doctor is going to treat all patients the same...
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Old 03-05-2021, 06:59 PM
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Great news ! A very good sign.
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Old 03-05-2021, 07:53 PM
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Glad to get some understanding as to what he was dealing with and now feel like a sigh of relief.
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Old 03-05-2021, 08:06 PM
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What a great news! I'm sure Prince Philip secretly can't wait to go back to Windsor Castle.
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Old 03-05-2021, 09:26 PM
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A doctor is going to treat all patients the same...
Of course they are. But the implications/fallout of something going seriously wrong during a procedure on the husband of the queen would be daunting. Let's just be honest.
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Old 03-05-2021, 09:41 PM
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Of course they are. But the implications/fallout of something going seriously wrong during a procedure on the husband of the queen would be daunting. Let's just be honest.
I actually believe that it would be that the patient was 99 years old and having had been in the hospital for a while for an infection would be the first and main worry of any cardiac doctor asked to perform this procedure on Philip.

My husband's doctor that presided over a 6 1/2 hour long surgery that involved 3 separate procedures was visibly uncertain going into doing this for him. As there was a very strong chance that he'd not survive the surgeries, he was told to get his affairs in order before going under. Thankfully, hubby is a fighter, like Philip and pulled through not only with flying colors but is also cancer free.

Doctors can and do assess *all* aspects of risks with any kind of medical procedure that they're going to do. I'm just so happy that Philip's went so well and he's back recouping at KEVII hospital and all that good food.
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Old 03-05-2021, 09:47 PM
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Glad the procedure went well

Though he isn't home, the fact that he moved back to the private hospital is still a descent sign. He no longer needs the specialized cardiac ward and he was in good shape to be moved. Hopefully we will see him home soon.

As for the implications of the queen's husband, no a doctor will treat him any way. The queen is a reasonable woman. She knows her husband is almost 100 and there is a chance he might die from a procedure. Unless there is some reason to think malpractice, she is not going to hold it against doctors if he dies. Its not like she is some absolute monarch you have to worry the doctor will disappear or at the least lose his license if her husband dies.

While the staff may be a bit more respectful, doctors treat all patients the same.
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Old 03-06-2021, 04:49 AM
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Personally, I think Charles and Philip’s relationship has improved since the 1990s but even if it hasn't, the British royal family strongly believes in primogeniture, in fact it is sort of their thing [....].
Even if they do not believe in primogeniture at all: the law is the law. So essentially their idea about it is nice but without any legal effect.
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Old 03-06-2021, 06:20 AM
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The news is getting more and more positive, thankfully.
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Old 03-06-2021, 09:30 AM
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As much as we'd like to think doctors can manage to treat everybody exactly the same, it's been documented ("VIP syndrome") that the medical people are only human, too. There's an Israeli prime minister who died of exactly this. I'm glad Philip appears to be getting "normal" treatment (but then hasn't that been what he's insisted on his whole life?).
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Old 03-06-2021, 02:53 PM
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Doctors do not treat everyone the same. In a perfect utopian they world they would. However the reality is that people from lower socioeconomic status, minorities, and women receive inferior health care.

There is no doubt that Philip is receiving the best of the best of healthcare and treatments because of who he is.
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Old 03-10-2021, 11:19 AM
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I haven't seen any updates for a while but am continuing to dedicate prayers to the Duke and his family.
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Old 03-10-2021, 11:34 AM
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I haven't seen any updates for a while but am continuing to dedicate prayers to the Duke and his family.
Yes, news about Prince Philip's health has not been published. I hope everything is ok.
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Old 03-10-2021, 11:37 AM
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I do feel for them- all this stress.
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I'm going to hope no news is good news.
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