Marsel
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One Question; Will William be given the titles Duke of Cornwall, Duke of Rothesay, Earl of Chester, Earl of Carrick, Baron Renfrew, Lord of the Isles, Prince and Great Steward of Scotland when Charles becomes King?
And why wouldn't he become Prince Of Wales straight away?
Once Charles becomes King, William will not have to be given the title of Duke of Cornwall: as the Heir Apparent of the Sovereign, he will automatically ascend to it. However, if Prince Charles predeceased his mother, William will not become Duke of Cornwall at all: only a son of the Sovereign can be Duke of Cornwall.
The title of the Prince of Wales is not an automatically inherited / created title and has to be given by the Sovereign to his/her Heir Apparent (usually, eldest son). Traditionally, the creation of the Prince of Wales is followed by an investiture ceremony, however that is not a necessary obligation. The title can be given only to the male Heir Apparent.
It is possible to be Prince of Wales and Heir Apparent to the Throne, but not Duke of Cornwall: for example, the future King George III was Prince of Wales and Heir Apparent to George II, but he was not Duke of Cornwall (as the King's grandson, not son).
The Duke of Rothesay title is automatically given to the Heir Apparent (not necessarily son of the Monarch).
The Earl of Chester title is not automatically inherited, it has to be created (usually, for the Heir Apparent): from 1327, it was created in conjunction with the Principality of Wales.
In 1469, the Scots Parliament passed an Act according to which that the eldest son of the Monarch and heir to the throne would hold the title Earl of Carrick.
The Barony of Renfrew was assigned to the eldest son of the Monarch under the above mentioned 1469 Act.
Lord of the Isles title was originally a Scot title that had nothing to do with the Monarch and his descendants. It declined after the last holder of the title entered into treaty with the King of England, upon which James V of Scotland 'confiscated' the title and reserved it to the Crown. Since then, the Heir Apparent (usually, eldest son) of the reigning Scottish (and subsequently, British) Monarch has held the title.
Prince and Great Steward of Scotland is a title that belongs to the Heir Apparent to the throne of the United Kingdom (not necessarily eldest son of the Sovereign).
To sum the above up:
The Prince of Wales and Earl of Chester titles need to be created: they are given to the Heir apparent of the Monarch (not necessarily eldest son).
The Duke of Cornwall title belongs to the Heir Apparent to the Throne and does not need to be created and is ascended to automatically. However, only a son (not necessarily eldest but always Heir Apparent) of the Sovereign can be Duke of Cornwall.
Duke of Rothesay and The Prince and Great Steward of Scotland titles belong to the Heir Apparent to the Throne (not necessarily eldest son of the Sovereign) and do not need to be created: the Heir Apparent ascends to them automatically.
The Earl of Carrick and Baron of Renfrew titles can be held only by the Heir Apparentt and the eldest son of the Monarch (as per 1469 Act): the titles are not created and the eldest son and the Heir Apparent ascends to them automatically.
The Lord of the Isles title belongs to the Heir Apparent to the Throne and: as far as I remember, all Lords of the Isles to this date were also the eldest sons of the Sovereign, however I don't think that is a necessary requirement. The title is not created: the Heir Apparent (usually, also the eldest son of the Monarch) ascends to it automatically.
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