Claire
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Penny & Norton Romsey
Why would only the MALE spouses be asked to give up their seat for elder family members? Why not the FEMALE spouses as well? Tim and Daniel have both been married into the family longer than Sophie, Camilla or Kate.
I can't see the Middletons or Sarah in attendance.
And, I really don't understand this "kids under 10 are too young to attend a funeral in person." That leaves me scratching my head in disbelief because most kids who are George/Mia's age and even Charlotte's age (nearly 6) are more than capable of understanding death and will have had a relationship with their great-grandfather for them to want to be in attendance. My youngest niece was around Charlotte's age when my grandmother died and she certainly had a special bond with her great-grandma and went to the funeral.
It would make sense. Especially as Lady Pamela was a Lady in Waiting to her for several years... She was even with them in Africa when the accession happened.
And we know through India Hicks ig-account that Lady Pamela is vaccinated too.
A previous poster suggested it could be Lady Pamela Hicks which I think is a good suggestion. At 91 she couldn’t do the walk to the chapel with the others. I can’t see her not attending the service.
Realistically I don't think the younger great-grandchildren saw Philip very often or had a special bond with him. The older ones, especially Lady Louise, were closer to him.
She is 17 years old.
Seriously what is going on? Do people actually think these people are 5?
Realistically I don't think the younger great-grandchildren saw Philip very often or had a special bond with him. The older ones, especially Lady Louise, were closer to him.
I do not envy the man who has to arrange the walk behind the coffin with Harry and Andrew in the mix
But they might make to children first row, grand kids next. Then if James walks he will be looked after by Peter Philips. But I think they would like Edward to be near James if he walks. Then it goes in line of succession - and Harry and Andrew end up together...
At the moment that makes no difference to regulations in the UK. You still have to follow thr rules.
I would think people permitting that Pamela will attend with India...as she seems to be bubbled with her.
India lives in the Caribbean. Lady Pamela bubbles with her son.
Once again - it has nothing to do with age. It does have to do with allowing the older generation who have known the Duke for his whole life to have a chance to say goodbye. I see nothing wrong with Louise given up her chair for the Duke of Kent. I don't think her or her parents will either. But this is all in vain until the list is announced.
Louise is actually a grandchild and not a great grandchild. She also spent a lot of time with her grandfather taking up carriage driving which was one of Philip's passions. It's telling that Louise chose to take the horses out and drive the carriage the morning of her grandfather's death. In her own way, she was paying tribute to the man that taught her everything she knows about driving those horses. ?
She'll definitely be there.
Queen Victoria and Prince Albert were fairly young (42) when he died and had been married for just 21 years. Albert death was rather sudden: Victoria was left as a fairly young widow with 6 or 7 children still at at home. The youngest only being 4 at the time. She lived another 39 years. she spent most of her life without Albert. Also pro longed grieving was common in 19th century however with Victoria was very unusual even for that time. In 21st century she probably be diagnosed with depression and put on meds possibly. Had Albert and Victoria grown old together and he died in 1899 or 1900 it might have different.
Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip were in the mid/late 90s (way being the average life expectancy) and married 73 years. Their children are all very grown with children and have now grandchildren of their own. They spent the majority of their life together. Their separation won’t be nearly as long and The Queen knows this. Prince Philip for the better part of the last decade had been in and out of hospital and over the last year or so had become more sick. His last hospital stay set off alarm bells. His death was not sudden of unexpected.
It not to say it make things easier but because of this the grief the current Queen going through is probably very different then Queen Victoria. Certainly not so profound.
It was announced earlier that the coffin of Prince Philip will be lowered into the vault directly under St George’s Chapel and not at the George VI Memorial Chapel.
Maybe that will happen at a later date?
https://images.app.goo.gl/7ATtvwgMfZ8tTpFv8
Yes, after Elizabeth passes, they will both be interred in the George VI Memorial Chapel.
It was announced earlier that the coffin of Prince Philip will be lowered into the vault directly under St George’s Chapel and not at the George VI Memorial Chapel.
Maybe that will happen at a later date?
https://images.app.goo.gl/7ATtvwgMfZ8tTpFv8
So possibly...
1. H.M The Queen
2. H.R.H The Prince of Wales
3. H.R.H The Duchess of Cornwall
4. H.R.H The Duke of Cambridge
5. H.R.H The Duchess of Cambridge
6. H.R.H The Duke of Sussex
7. H.R.H The Duke of York
8. H.R.H The Princess Beatrice Mrs Edoardo Mapelli-Mozzi
9. H.R.H The Princess Eugenie Mrs Jack Brooksbank
10. H.R.H The Earl of Wessex
11. H.R.H The Countess of Wessex
12. Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor
13. James, Viscount Severn
14. H.R.H The Princess Royal
15. Vice Admiral Sir Tim Laurence
16. Mr Peter Phillips
17. Mrs Zara Tindall
18. Mr Mike Tindall
19. The 2:nd Earl Snowdon
20. Lady Sarah Chatto
21. Mr Daniel Chatto
22. The Countess Mountbatten of Burma
23. Lady Pamela Hicks
24. Mr Ashley Hicks
25. Private Secretary
That would leave 5 seats.... Perhaps for George, Charlotte, Savannah, Isla and Mia if they decide that great grandchildren will attend.... Otherwise longtime staff members..... I would be very surprised to see the Kent’s or the Gloucester’s there... Maybe The Duke of Kent if there turns out to be a space for him as he is quite close related to Philip Too... But i don’t think those branches will have priority...
So possibly...
1. H.M The Queen
2. H.R.H The Prince of Wales
3. H.R.H The Duchess of Cornwall
4. H.R.H The Duke of Cambridge
5. H.R.H The Duchess of Cambridge
6. H.R.H The Duke of Sussex
7. H.R.H The Duke of York
8. H.R.H The Princess Beatrice Mrs Edoardo Mapelli-Mozzi
9. H.R.H The Princess Eugenie Mrs Jack Brooksbank
10. H.R.H The Earl of Wessex
11. H.R.H The Countess of Wessex
12. Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor
13. James, Viscount Severn
14. H.R.H The Princess Royal
15. Vice Admiral Sir Tim Laurence
16. Mr Peter Phillips
17. Mrs Zara Tindall
18. Mr Mike Tindall
19. The 2:nd Earl Snowdon
20. Lady Sarah Chatto
21. Mr Daniel Chatto
22. The Countess Mountbatten of Burma
23. Lady Pamela Hicks
24. Mr Ashley Hicks
25. Private Secretary
That would leave 5 seats.... Perhaps for George, Charlotte, Savannah, Isla and Mia if they decide that great grandchildren will attend.... Otherwise longtime staff members..... I would be very surprised to see the Kent’s or the Gloucester’s there... Maybe The Duke of Kent if there turns out to be a space for him as he is quite close related to Philip Too... But i don’t think those branches will have priority...
Jack Brooksbank and Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi are missed in the list.
Countess Mountbatten died 4 years ago, so she certainly won't be there! But maybe her son and daughter-in-law, especially as Penny was close to Prince Philip.
The children are young and when you think about the weddings the children were taken away until the end. trying to keep them to sit at attention might be quite difficult, especially during a solemn occasion, and lets be honest people would be quick to judge if they caused a disruption. They might all be as somebody suggested watching tv in the castle.
Jack Brooksbank and Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi are missed in the list.
The children are young and when you think about the weddings the children were taken away until the end. trying to keep them to sit at attention might be quite difficult, especially during a solemn occasion, and lets be honest people would be quick to judge if they caused a disruption. They might all be as somebody suggested watching tv in the castle.