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Old 04-15-2021, 05:08 PM
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I was originally surprised by the inclusion of Philips German family just because of quarantine which was silly really as all they had to do was let them know in plenty of time they were invited as with Harry.
I am not surprised, as Philip always stated that he is close to his German relatives. His niece Princess Margarita of Baden was always invited to almost every royal family event, including yearly Windsor Christmas gathering.

It would be a bit strange not to include his closest relatives even if they all live abroad. Now, we know that it was Philip's wish to include them and that sends some "message". I think that he wanted his family to know that he wanted them to continue to keep in touch with his relatives even after his death.
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Old 04-15-2021, 05:12 PM
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Yeps. She chose to use Charles' *oldest* title instead.

Which was very smart of her
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Old 04-15-2021, 05:19 PM
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I am not surprised, as Philip always stated that he is close to his German relatives. His niece Princess Margarita of Baden was always invited to almost every royal family event, including yearly Windsor Christmas gathering.

It would be a bit strange not to include his closest relatives even if they all live abroad. Now, we know that it was Philip's wish to include them and that sends some "message". I think that he wanted his family to know that he wanted them to continue to keep in touch with his relatives even after his death.
You are only quoting part of my post, I had said I had thought because of quarantine they wouldn't be there which was silly. I then go on to give reasons why I shouldn't have been surprised.

Please quote me correctly.
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Old 04-15-2021, 05:21 PM
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Does anyone know why Prince Philip's family were not invited to his wedding?

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Old 04-15-2021, 05:24 PM
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It is often said that after the divorce of Margaret and Earl Snowdon the Queen and Philip invited Sarah and David to family holidays, weekends etc. I suspect they may been closer than we think or see.
Yes they are very close. Sarah and Daniel were very close to their Aunt and Uncle and spent a lot of time with them, moreso when their mother became I'll and lived at the Palace. After her death they kept close contact and to this day one expects to see one or the other at any royal gathering.

If there is one thing that has become glaringly obvious it is just how close the extended family is. While Philip's family was unable to attend the wedding due to their nationality, they still visited them in 1947. Close royal friends seemed to drop in quite frequently and it seems that Philip and Charles at the very least visited the extended family in Germany quite often. The BRF itself seems to spend a lot of time together as Eugenie's incinerated sausages attest.

It's all very interesting to discover since the media seem to have used a lot of print over the years claiming the cold BRF were both isolated and distant with each other to the point that I feel like screaming "moronic vultures" if I see another headline or talking head wondering if The Queen will cry!
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Old 04-15-2021, 05:26 PM
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Does anyone know why Prince Philip's family were not invited to his wedding?

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You mean his sisters?
It was after the War and they had married German Princes so they were not invited along with other German relations.



His mother was present as were a lot of his royal cousins from Greece, Yugoslavia and Romania.
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Old 04-15-2021, 05:26 PM
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Does anyone know why Prince Philip's family were not invited to his wedding?

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I take it you mean his German relatives (his mother and Mountbattens were there). It was because the Second World War ended in 1945 and the marriage took place in 1948. There were still a lot of grieving families and it would have been seen as insensitive.
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Old 04-15-2021, 05:26 PM
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It is often said that after the divorce of Margaret and Earl Snowdon the Queen and Philip invited Sarah and David to family holidays, weekends etc. I suspect they may been closer than we think or see.
For all intents and purposes, Philip was the only uncle Sarah and David have had for over nearly forty years. Their father had an older sister who died in 1986, 3 years after her husband passed away. Their father also had a, much, younger brother who is only a year or two older than David and about 4 years older than Sarah. I think it's really unfair to say "oh, but they aren't BLOOD relatives of Philip therefore, they aren't as important" - I've never thought of my uncles by marriage as any less a part of my family as my uncle by blood is a part of my family. I would guess that they probably felt especially close to him - I know my cousins who have lost their fathers have formed closer relationships with some of their uncles. I would guess that Sarah and David had a pretty strong relationship with Philip, but that's just a strong hunch based on what we do know about the family interactions and visits.
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Old 04-15-2021, 05:26 PM
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Does anyone know why Prince Philip's family were not invited to his wedding?
Short answer - it took place not long after WW2, and his sisters had all married German princes, some of whom had Nazi connections.
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Old 04-15-2021, 05:32 PM
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For all intents and purposes, Philip was the only uncle Sarah and David have had for over nearly forty years. Their father had an older sister who died in 1986, 3 years after her husband passed away. Their father also had a, much, younger brother who is only a year or two older than David and about 4 years older than Sarah. I think it's really unfair to say "oh, but they aren't BLOOD relatives of Philip therefore, they aren't as important" - I've never thought of my uncles by marriage as any less a part of my family as my uncle by blood is a part of my family. I would guess that they probably felt especially close to him - I know my cousins who have lost their fathers have formed closer relationships with some of their uncles. I would guess that Sarah and David had a pretty strong relationship with Philip, but that's just a strong hunch based on what we do know about the family interactions and visits.
I agree with you. And I want to add that the Queen had only one sibling Margaret and these are Margaret's kids. I would've been really surprised if they weren't included.
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Old 04-15-2021, 06:01 PM
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My uncle isn't a blood uncle, but he and my auntie were married long before my sister and I were born, and he's been a big part of our lives all along. The same with David and Sarah and Prince Philip. I'd have been very surprised if David and Sarah hadn't been asked. It's just such a shame that there has to be all this stressing over getting the guest list down to 30, but a lot of people are in that position at the moment.
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This is 9:30 am EST, I believe

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Old 04-15-2021, 06:11 PM
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During a week of watching royal clips I've just had the chance to watch the Elizabeth at 90:A Family Tribute again. Anyone who has seen that will see how close Sarah and David were to the family and the way Sarah speaks about her Auntie shows there is a real strong bond there.
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Old 04-15-2021, 06:15 PM
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During a week of watching royal clips I've just had the chance to watch the Elizabeth at 90:A Family Tribute again. Anyone who has seen that will see how close Sarah and David were to the family and the way Sarah speaks about her Auntie shows there is a real strong bond there.
Do you have Prime, that is where I found it, it was lovely how Sarah spoke about her aunt. Also the different relatives in the various home movies, the fun they all had. Not the cold family that people talk about,
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Old 04-15-2021, 06:18 PM
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My uncle isn't a blood uncle, but he and my auntie were married long before my sister and I were born, and he's been a big part of our lives all along. The same with David and Sarah and Prince Philip. I'd have been very surprised if David and Sarah hadn't been asked. It's just such a shame that there has to be all this stressing over getting the guest list down to 30, but a lot of people are in that position at the moment.
That's true, lots of people making difficult decisions, but people should understand. I also do not think there is anything strange in who is there and who isn't, difficult decisions.
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Old 04-15-2021, 06:22 PM
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I forget if I mentioned it, it the ITV Philip special that aired on PBS was absolutely fantastic

Also, for anyone (at least in US) who gets Smithsonian Channel (my fave channel), their Saturday schedule is all in honor of Philip. It includes episodes of Aerial Britain (a wonderful look at Britain from above), Aerial Greece, Private Lives of Windsor (Lord Mountbatten, Queen Mother), Inside Windsor Castle (3 parts), Inside Buckingham Palace (2 parts).

They’re all fantastic programs

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Do you have Prime, that is where I found it, it was lovely how Sarah spoke about her aunt. Also the different relatives in the various home movies, the fun they all had. Not the cold family that people talk about,
I remember seeing clips of Charles watching home movies of he, his siblings and parents (for a special on his mother, I think)...it was wonderful; it was like he was rediscovering memories that he’d pushed aside or seeing things for the first time that he was too young to remote. William and Harry got kicks out of watching their dad as a kid in home movies also - for Charles at 70, I think
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Old 04-15-2021, 06:26 PM
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I have just been watching the news , showing the military rehearsals for Saturday. Although obviously lower key with regards numbers i.e 30 guests. There will be a certain amount of ceremony. Shorter procession as well compared to the London funerals.

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I remember seeing clips of Charles watching home movies of he, his siblings and parents (for a special on his mother, I think)...it was wonderful; it was like he was rediscovering memories that he’d pushed aside or seeing things for the first time that he was too young to remote. William and Harry got kicks out of watching their dad as a kid in home movies also - for Charles at 70, I think
I think there was one for the Jubilee but the One I am talking about tonight is ' Elizabeth at 90 a Family Tribute. It was as you describe family home movies mixed with the family watching them and talking about them. Harry makes a comment about his dad in a pedal car with a cushion, just like now .

William and Harry speak about how beautiful their granny was and how handsome Philip. Maybe we are talking about the same programme,
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Old 04-15-2021, 06:32 PM
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This is the one I have been watching, with clips from home movies watched by the family.
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Old 04-15-2021, 06:39 PM
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I think there was one for the Jubilee but the One I am talking about tonight is ' Elizabeth at 90 a Family Tribute. It was as you describe family home movies mixed with the family watching them and talking about them. Harry makes a comment about his dad in a pedal car with a cushion, just like now .

William and Harry speak about how beautiful their granny was and how handsome Philip. Maybe we are talking about the same programme,
I think I saw it...awhile ago, though. It won’t be airing here soon, unfortunately

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This is the one I have been watching, with clips from home movies watched by the family.
Ooh, thanks for posting - I definitely need to see this !
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Old 04-15-2021, 06:52 PM
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I think I saw it...awhile ago, though. It won’t be airing here soon, unfortunately
It was on about 5 years ago but I saw it tonight on PRIME, but I think it must be on you tube as that is what Tommy put up as a link well worth a watch.
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