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Old 04-11-2021, 03:06 PM
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In fairness the job of accompanying the Queen may be taken by a lady in waiting who is already part of her bubble. I'm not sure how, if they want to follow Covid rules, they could get away with Sophie sitting in a car with her.

I absolutely think it would be the right thing to do, but I'm not sure how they will manage it.
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Old 04-11-2021, 03:11 PM
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As they've told people not to come to the castle or gather outside, I can't see how they can have a lot of people in a marquee it would be very difficult for them to socially distance...
They could for adults, either have a hugh room where chairs are two meters apart and each person has ther own to sit on. Set up a buffet for them to take food from. It has been the situation st my work place for well over a year.

Children are not included in this and neither a social distance at school or outside with others.

So predominately it is all on the adults.

You sent required to socially distanced that much whe outdoors anymore. And certainly people aren't who I see.

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In fairness the job of accompanying the Queen may be taken by a lady in waiting who is already part of her bubble. I'm not sure how, if they want to follow Covid rules, they could get away with Sophie sitting in a car with her.

I absolutely think it would be the right thing to do, but I'm not sure how they will manage it.
Not going in the church they could certainly go in the car
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Old 04-11-2021, 03:13 PM
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I have seen this alot. It is not allowed in the UK at the moment.

They could certainly erect something outdoors.
What exactly is not allowed? To watch tv together? Couldn't each family sit in a different room? I would expect Windsor castle has sufficient rooms to do so if that is what is required.
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Old 04-11-2021, 03:15 PM
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It woudl be a lot of work, and the various families can watch a film of it later at home... They have asked the public not to come to Windsor nor to leave flowers.. so I think that they should stick to 30 people at the funeral, and a memorial service later when things are better
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Old 04-11-2021, 03:19 PM
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What exactly is not allowed? To watch tv together? Couldn't each family sit in a different room? I would expect Windsor castle has sufficient rooms to do so if that is what is required.
They could all sit in a large room two meters apart wearing face masks and watch it on screen. Certainly.
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Old 04-11-2021, 03:21 PM
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I am happy the RF has now maybe had the best and most privacy ever since decades and especially the couple had more than a year being together closely.
Though it might be hard for the old lady HM to cope with both the great loss AND the changes in daily life which she surely appreciated and maybe had not had with DoE since Malta, she comes to turns of course and feels thankful after all-
and so this pandemic had some positive effect for them, too!
And when "normal"life with routine and schedules and appointments comes back, like any other HM might soon deal better.
If not she joins Philip all to soon, which happens often to longtimeweds.
Let's hope the best for Saturday.

But why on earth do the Sussex still leak such private things �� referring to what Betsypaige wrote mentioning vanityfair
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Old 04-11-2021, 03:25 PM
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No-one's allowed into another person's home at the moment, unless they're in a bubble, or unless they're going there to work e.g. a plumber or a visiting nurse. Even if you sit in different rooms, it's not allowed. Admittedly, most people's homes aren't quite the size of Windsor Castle :-) , but it's the same set of rules for everyone.


You can claim exemptions to rules on compassionate grounds, and I don't think anyone's going to mind if Sophie or Anne or anyone else sits with the Queen in the car, but they won't ask people in to watch the funeral on TV together. They could sit outside, as long as they were in groups of no more than six, but it'd be a hassle to rig up the TV outside, and it's also pretty cold for April at the moment.
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Old 04-11-2021, 03:30 PM
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No-one's allowed into another person's home at the moment, unless they're in a bubble, or unless they're going there to work e.g. a plumber or a visiting nurse. Even if you sit in different rooms, it's not allowed. Admittedly, most people's homes aren't quite the size of Windsor Castle :-) , but it's the same set of rules for everyone.


You can claim exemptions to rules on compassionate grounds, and I don't think anyone's going to mind if Sophie or Anne or anyone else sits with the Queen in the car, but they won't ask people in to watch the funeral on TV together. They could sit outside, as long as they were in groups of no more than six, but it'd be a hassle to rig up the TV outside, and it's also pretty cold for April at the moment.
Depends on the designation of the location.

At my work place we all sit in the hall for meetings but need to wear face masks unless eating.

So it depends on the legalise over part of Windsor and it is a workplace and certainly for the workers they will do something. There was also work and cranes there yesterday when I went.
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Old 04-11-2021, 03:31 PM
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I think spouses will be there otherwise there is going to be a lot of people sitting on their own at a funeral. Under the covid rules each household has to be socially distance. I have a feeling Andrew will be with the Queen. Harry possibly with Eugenie or whoever he stays with.
I would also expect spouses to attend.

My basic list would be:
1. The Queen

2. The Prince of Wales
3. The Duchess of Cornwall

4. The Princess Royal
5. Sir Timothy Laurence

6. The Duke of York

7. The Earl of Wessex
8. The Countess of Wessex
9. Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor
10. Viscount Severn

11. The Duke of Cambridge
12. The Duchess of Cambridge

13. The Duke of Sussex

14. Peter Phillips

15. Zara Tindall
16. Michael Tindall

17. Princess Beatrice
18. Eduardo Mapelli Mozzi

19. Princess Eugenie
20. Jack Brooksbank

Remaining 10 spots:
21. Private Secretary to the Duke of Edinburgh (some others suggested it and it makes sense to me)

22. The Countess Mountbatten of Burma

23. Lady Pamela Hicks

Remaining 7 spots; probably to be divided among the following group of people:

1. The Duke of Gloucester
2. The Duchess of Gloucester

3. The Duke of Kent
4. The Duchess of Kent

5. Princess Alexandra

6. Prince Michael of Kent
7. Princess Michael of Kent

8. The Earl of Snowdon

9. Lady Sarah Chatto
10. Daniel Chatto

11. Ashley Hicks (to accompany his mother; if that would be the only way for her to attend)

12. A lady-in-waiting to the queen; depending on the bubbling arrangements. I don't fully understand the 'bubble' principle...

If more than 5 of the final list are too important to be left out; a few that might consider not attending are:
- Lady Pamela Hicks; for health reasons
- Michael Tindall; to stay home with his new-born son
- Jack Brooksbank; to stay home with his new-born son
- Eduardo; as the most recent addition to the family (only if truly needed; I don't like leaving out spouses if not absolutely necessary - as they are also there to support their spouse who in this case lost her beloved grandfather)

I agree with those who stated that I don't expect George to attend; that would only make sense if his older second cousins (Savannah and Isla) would also attend. In this family situation, he is just one of the 10 great-grandchildren; number 3 in age. It would be different in the case of a state funeral for the queen; in that scenario his position as future king comes into play but not now. Just like they are not singling out William; which I appreciate as he is 'just one of the 8 grandchildren'.
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Old 04-11-2021, 03:35 PM
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I would also expect spouses to attend.



22. The Countess Mountbatten of Burma
What about Norton Knatchbull the current 3rd Earl Mountbatten of Burma?
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Old 04-11-2021, 03:38 PM
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I am happy the RF has now maybe had the best and most privacy ever since decades and especially the couple had more than a year being together closely.
Though it might be hard for the old lady HM to cope with both the great loss AND the changes in daily life which she surely appreciated and maybe had not had with DoE since Malta, she comes to turns of course and feels thankful after all-
and so this pandemic had some positive effect for them, too!
And when "normal"life with routine and schedules and appointments comes back, like any other HM might soon deal better.
If not she joins Philip all to soon, which happens often to longtimeweds.
Let's hope the best for Saturday.

I think too, the in the long run, when the Queen will really feel the loss of Philip is during her hiatus at Balmoral this summer. For most people, the real feeling of the loss of a loved one starts after the funeral and the memorial services and the period of mourning is over and people have all gone home and back to ordinary life. The Queen is used to being at Windsor or BP with Philip away at Wood Farm but they were always together at Balmoral and those BBQs will just never be the same again without Philip at the grill.
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Old 04-11-2021, 03:40 PM
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I think given the phrase was the Royal Family and the Private Secretary that is all family.

And too be honest as much as I would love Lady Pamela there. I dont think I would feel comfortable taking her if she was my Mum. I wouldn't go myself if there was a vulnerable person in my household.

It will be the Windsors that go and after so many years I can't imagine the older members of his friends and family would mind.
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Old 04-11-2021, 03:51 PM
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What about Norton Knatchbull the current 3rd Earl Mountbatten of Burma?


He has health issues going back quite a while. Prince Charles gave his daughter away at her wedding as he was unable. So I doubt he would be there.
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Old 04-11-2021, 03:53 PM
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What about Norton Knatchbull the current 3rd Earl Mountbatten of Burma?
Given that he had a very public affair/betrayed the countess and left for the Caribbean and the royal family supported the Countess and not their family member the Earl in this mess; I don't think they would want to attend together... as they seem to effectively be 'separated' (even though apparently the Countess let him back in the house after he lived in the Bahamas with his mistress for several years when his health started to decline - but the house is large enough with 60 tooms). However, if all would be well between them again, and the Countess would prefer him to attend (and his health would allow for it - which seems questionable) he might indeed attend - but it seems more likely that he doesn't.
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Old 04-11-2021, 03:55 PM
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We’ll see. I don’t want to speculate about how much time they’ll have or won’t have, or how long Harry is staying. It seems he’ll be visiting his grandmother first, so he might well be in a bubble.
Well he can certainly see out his isolation in Windsor and then ince it ends I persume he could enter a house bubble there.

Who knows how long he will stay and if he does say linger of course there will be multiple opportunities to meet up with people outdoors in gardens.

But given he has a pregnant wife I can't imagine he will.

But it would do the relationships a world of good if he could stay for a few weeks.
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Prince Harry is discussed in his own thread in the Sussex forum. We do not need to have two simular discussions between the same posters in two threads at the same time. Posts have been removed.

Speculative posts predicting the death of Queen Elizabeth II and about mental health issues among other members of the RF have been removed.
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Old 04-11-2021, 03:58 PM
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Given that he had a very public affair/betrayed the countess and left for the Caribbean and the royal family supported the Countess and not their family member the Earl in this mess; I don't think they would want to attend together...
Although Penny did take him back, he lives in a different domicile on the estate at Broadlands and has no part in the running of the estate. The couple never divorced but they're not living in marital bliss either. Penny, I believe, was much closer to the Duke of Edinburgh than Norton was.
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Old 04-11-2021, 04:07 PM
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Although Penny did take him back, he lives in a different domicile on the estate at Broadlands and has no part in the running of the estate. The couple never divorced but they're not living in marital bliss either. Penny, I believe, was much closer to the Duke of Edinburgh than Norton was.
I honestly dont see anyone else but the direct family be there.

At a push an extended member of the royal family.

A nice 29 number is the Queen, Private Sec, 7 children and in laws. 12 grandchildren and partners. 5 great grand kids and the three Armstrong Jones Chatto.

It is there own family Christmases.
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Old 04-11-2021, 04:16 PM
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Just come across this on YouTube, Philip talking about his WW2 experiences. I've not really heard him do so before and watching him do so makes you understand why things like VE day events, the cenotaph and so on were so important to him.
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I’ve enjoyed seeing some new photos of The Duke over the last couple of days. Or at least they’ve been new to me. The latest picture of him on TRF’s Instagram is beautiful, as is the one of Anne with her father - you can tell he thought the world of her. I also thought Anne’s statement accompanying the photo was touching.
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