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Old 05-13-2012, 05:07 PM
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There is no need to wait for the time when Prince Felipe may shun his family members out of political expediency.
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Old 05-13-2012, 05:51 PM
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Perhaps they just acted as grown-up mature people and discussed whether the Prince and Princess of Asturia should attend. The security and photographers that would have been present may not be what the family wanted. There are many ways of supporting your family. When a family member is in declining health for a long time the grieving is sometimes over by the time death comes. They may actually have worked out their support for each other in ways that suit them all.
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Old 05-14-2012, 02:32 AM
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I see no reason for both ladies to accommodate anybody. It would be deemed expedient for Infanta Elena and Infanta Christina to either gracefully exit or scale down their royal activities to a bare minimum. If needed, Prince and Princess Asturia can fill a gap. I dare say the Casa Real can function with them. Duchess of Palma should focus on her life in the USA, whereas Infanta Elena should do so in Spain.
For now, the Princes of Asturias can fill the gap, as long as the Kings are alive. After that, they will have some serious thinking to do, basically running casareal on their own, with the Infantas Leonor & Sofia not ready for duty in the next 15 - 20 years.

One word re Cristina - I believe her US stay is related to Inaki's work and work visa. Now we can speculate that she is an Infanta of Spain and will have access to JC's money but I doubt the Palma family can keep up the standard in the US once Inaki will be out of work at Telefonica. Depending on the court case, he will struggle to get another golden advisor job to fund a similar lifestyle abroad.

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Old 05-14-2012, 03:52 AM
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Iñaki Urdangarín got his job at Telefónica as the son-in-law of the King. His future in the company is black, because black is his judicial future. If he supports his work, and with it the possibility of continuing living in The United States is principally because there are 4 children whom they want to keep removed from the scandal. The company pays expenses to them as the house, the school for the children and pays to them safety that completes the safety that pay the Spanish government. Without Telefonica, not only Iñaki lose his pay but they lost a lot of expenses paid.

Infanta Cristina continues having her work in Barcelona, and I do not believe that the Foundation La Caixa agrees to lengthen this situation eternally.

I think they will not continue living in the U.S.. In the summer when the children finish the school year they will return to Spain. Depending on how Inaki´s future evolves, the lives of the family will change. If they decide to stay in Barcelona, they will seek a new home, because the current is at the center of the scandal. Infanta Cristina would return to work, Inaki would leave Telefonica and children to their former school, or perhaps sent to England as they did with Froilan.
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Old 05-14-2012, 04:22 AM
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I agree with you, however, I doubt they will return to Spain, simply because of the press harassment that will not stop. It would be a difficult life for Inaki & Cristina but unbearable for the children.

I dont think they can afford to live in the US for much longer without Telefonica but I see the Kings rather forking out on their own pocket / use their connections to provide for the Palma family rather than seeing them suffer every single day due to paparazzi shots.

England would be a good option for them to live, close to Europe but with enough distance to Spain. JC is rich, he could provide for them if the wanted to, Sofia's brother Constantine lives there with his family, so possibilities could come up for the Palma family to rebuild their life there.
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Old 05-14-2012, 04:35 AM
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Yes Duke, that's another possibility. The press says the Infanta Cristina wants to return to Spain to be near family and friends, but I do not know if she knows how hard it will be for their children bear all the comments. In addition, her work is in Barcelona.
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Old 05-14-2012, 08:43 AM
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Thanks for the additional information!
I still think that Infanta Elena and Infanta Christina should just follow their aunts' example. It would be much better in the long run. It is Prince Felipe's job to ensure smooth running of the Casa Real.
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(...) The decision was long thought out, but finally Felipe de Borbon and his wife, Letizia Ortiz, did not go to Vitoria. Travelling to Vitoria to offer condolences to the family would have been seen by much of the public as a gesture of magnanimity of the heir to the crown, capable of showing warmth and humanity , despite the gap that separates him from his BIL following the case, but could also be interpreted as a sign of indulgence and approach to the Duke of Palma, facing the King and the Prince for his alleged agreement with prosecutors to avoid jail. At the end outweighed the reasons of state, and only the Queen and Bourbon infanta Elena joined the mourning (...).
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Old 05-14-2012, 11:32 AM
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(...) The decision was long thought out, but finally Felipe de Borbon and his wife, Letizia Ortiz, did not go to Vitoria. Travelling to Vitoria to offer condolences to the family would have been seen by much of the public as a gesture of magnanimity of the heir to the crown, capable of showing warmth and humanity , despite the gap that separates him from his BIL following the case, but could also be interpreted as a sign of indulgence and approach to the Duke of Palma, facing the King and the Prince for his alleged agreement with prosecutors to avoid jail. At the end outweighed the reasons of state, and only the Queen and Bourbon infanta Elena joined the mourning (...).
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I think the SRF were represented by Sophia and her daughter. Not every member of the family had to travel the distance.
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:13 AM
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The funeral makes the headlines on the pink front pages
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I´m not surprised the "pink press" should make headlines.
This, if anything will play in favour of the Palma family, IMO
By not showing any compassion or support to a family who has lost somebody very close and dear to them, the princely couple, again IMO erred and erred badly.
When you cannot separate one thing from the other (Iñaki´s problems) from a moment of great sorrow, they showed a face to the Spanish people which is not very humane, to say the least.
I really don´t have a clue, how this whole nightmare will end, but I have a feeling (I wish I didn´t have) that the losers won´t be just the Palma family.
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:50 AM
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I agree with you, however, I doubt they will return to Spain, simply because of the press harassment that will not stop. It would be a difficult life for Inaki & Cristina but unbearable for the children.

I dont think they can afford to live in the US for much longer without Telefonica but I see the Kings rather forking out on their own pocket / use their connections to provide for the Palma family rather than seeing them suffer every single day due to paparazzi shots.

England would be a good option for them to live, close to Europe but with enough distance to Spain. JC is rich, he could provide for them if the wanted to, Sofia's brother Constantine lives there with his family, so possibilities could come up for the Palma family to rebuild their life there.
Duke I like the idea of London as a new base for the Palma's as I can't really see a future for them in Washington DC.
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:57 AM
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I´m not surprised the "pink press" should make headlines.This, if anything will play in favour of the Palma family, IMO By not showing any compassion or support to a family who has lost somebody very close and dear to them, the princely couple, again IMO erred and erred badly
I think you are being unrealistic about the security risks presented by the crown princely couple traveling to the Basque region and on a weekend with so many protests.

The expense of Sofia's visit to lunch with the Urdangarins was high (security in Vitoria, police escort to Vitoria, helicopter escort to Vitoria) and paid for by the financially strapped government. The expense would be even greater for the crown prince.

I think you can not assume that the Urdangarin's even wanted them at the funeral, due to the disruption it would cause. Compassion and support need not be given in a public forum.
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Claire Liebaert Courtain, Inaki's mother, was seen in Vitoria-Gasteiz, Spain, yesterday, December 23:


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Vanitatis article on the family of Iñaki Urdangarin.
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Inaki's fall was spectacular. But he seems to be quietly rebuilding a very honorable life for himself.

Good for Inaki.
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