Iñaki, Cristina and the NOOS Corruption Investigation Part 2 (2015 - 2018)

[Duke of Marmalade]

Cristina on the title of Vanity Fair
her inner circle tells how much she suffers
Cristina, acorralada: sus íntimos hablan por primera vez | Vanity Fair

[maria-olivia]

I really hope their Summer family holidays will not be the last one for a while.

[An Ard Ri]

Friends of Infanta Cristina come to her defense!

Los amigos de la Infanta Cristina salen en su defensa: "Conocía el trabajo de Urdangarín pero no pensó que fuera algo ilegal" - Bekia

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[Marty91charmed]

Oh please! Why are they speaking uo now And she is a intelligent, well-educated woman: frankly, to claim she didn't think that what her husband did was illegal, is an insult to her smartness...

[eya]

Cristina missed too many things from the life he had but unfortunately even if acquitted do not think that anything will change much.
But who blame for this?

[Duc_et_Pair]

Everyone is free to express him- or herself, also the Infanta and her friends.

[An Ard Ri]

The Court of Palma lowers the amount of the liability bond of the Infanta Cristina.

La Audiencia de Palma rebaja la fianza de la infanta Cristina


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[Marty91charmed]

I haven't follow much of the ongoing trial recently... has a verdict been announced yet?

[Winnie]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

Everyone is free to express him- or herself, also the Infanta and her friends.

You are correct, everyone has the right to their own opinion and the freedom of speech to express. None of these opinions means anything in a court of law. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty only in court. That being said, no matter how this turns out, Cristina will always be under a black cloud the rest of her life and most feels she will deserve all she gets. The children do not deserve any of this. They are 100% innocent but this trial will follow them for the rest of their young lives. That is what I think is awful. That is also what their parents must live with for the rest of their lives. Was the money worth it?

[GracieGiraffe]

Originally Posted by Marty91charmed

I haven't follow much of the ongoing trial recently... has a verdict been announced yet?

Are you kidding? I think I will have great-grandchildren before this verdict is announced.

[Winnie]

Originally Posted by GracieGiraffe

Are you kidding? I think I will have great-grandchildren before this verdict is announced.

Now that made me laugh. But I agree that this is taking just too long to get to trial. I still say that if the judge didn't "see" something amiss in the official papers submitted, he would have cancelled all counts on Cristina long ago. Maybe just something small [of course compared to her Inaki] but a broken law never-the-less. What is the time limit for a speedy trial in Spain, or don't they actually have one? I know America has pages and pages explaining that their citizens have the 'right to a speedy trial'.

To me it seems like the longer this case takes before coming before the judge, the more deals and trade-off can take place. Shame to say, but I doubt if Cristina wasn't the daughter and sister of Kings, this trial would have been finished years ago. Aren't others already serving time for this crime?

[carlota]

Originally Posted by Winnie

Now that made me laugh. But I agree that this is taking just too long to get to trial. I still say that if the judge didn't "see" something amiss in the official papers submitted, he would have cancelled all counts on Cristina long ago. Maybe just something small [of course compared to her Inaki] but a broken law never-the-less. What is the time limit for a speedy trial in Spain, or don't they actually have one? I know America has pages and pages explaining that their citizens have the 'right to a speedy trial'.

To me it seems like the longer this case takes before coming before the judge, the more deals and trade-off can take place. Shame to say, but I doubt if Cristina wasn't the daughter and sister of Kings, this trial would have been finished years ago. Aren't others already serving time for this crime?

i agree, it's possible and very likely that if someone else would have done something similar, they would have been convicted some time ago. this has been dragging for 4 years and still no resolution. to me, it's clear they are trying to find an "easy way out" for cristina and possibly for iñaki, and i'm hoping that for once they don't allow that to happen. i am hopeful in the judge instructing the case. he demonstrated he isn't afraid of anything and did his job rightly. but i have no doubts casa real is behind this and closely following any events to try and get them out of this mess they got themselves in.

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by carlota

i agree, it's possible and very likely that if someone else would have done something similar, they would have been convicted some time ago. this has been dragging for 4 years and still no resolution. to me, it's clear they are trying to find an "easy way out" for cristina and possibly for iñaki, and i'm hoping that for once they don't allow that to happen. i am hopeful in the judge instructing the case. he demonstrated he isn't afraid of anything and did his job rightly. but i have no doubts casa real is behind this and closely following any events to try and get them out of this mess they got themselves in.

I see it the other way around: the State attorney actually asked for the charges against Cristina to be dropped as he saw no legal case against her. However, because she was the King's daughter and the judge is probably a republican who wanted to embarass the monarchy, he sent her to trial against the recommendation of the prosecutor himself.

[Winnie]

Mbruno, both scenarios could be correct. We will never know 100%, But the fact is we all can have our own opinion and express it here even though it won't mean a hill of beans in court. We just have to hope correct justice is served. Heck, some people are still trying to find out how JFK really died. Even when this case is over, there will always be believers and disbelievers.

[GracieGiraffe]

My question is whether this time frame is typical of a similar case in Spain. If not, then perhaps everyone is not equal under the laws. Whether that is working for or against the defendants in this case I don't know.

[Winnie]

Originally Posted by GracieGiraffe

My question is whether this time frame is typical of a similar case in Spain. If not, then perhaps everyone is not equal under the laws. Whether that is working for or against the defendants in this case I don't know.

I doubt that there has ever been a case like this in Spain. Probably why it is taking so long. I certainly would not want to be this judge. You are right, time frame is really a bit much, but we don't know the entire story. So who can really tell what piles of documents are being presented. I always wondered how many people are involved in helping this judge and marvel that not one of them has leaked any really interesting or damming true information. Admiration to them all.

[lula]

The trial will begin on January 11, 2016

La Infanta Cristina se sentar? en el banquillo el 11 de enero por el caso N?os | Baleares | EL MUNDO

[An Ard Ri]

From Bekia

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[Marengo]

Good that they finally set a date. Let's hope this circus has come to an end by this time next year. It is the open wound of the Spanish RF and the sooner it is history the better.

[An Ard Ri]

Though not the best starts to 2016 I'm glad a date has been set for this ongoing palava.