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the article below mentions that the public prosecutor will offer urdangarin the possibility to accept a 6 year prison charge and him returning the total of 6 million. if he doesn't accept, he could face charges of up to 20 years of prison. however, they also mention in the article that urdangarin is not willing to negotiate a prison charge and will only negotiate on the basis of returning the money. they say in the article the prosecutor would not accept a penalty based on money only, and wants him to enter prison.
it's shameful that he's only willing to return the money he abducted, as if nothing had happened and get on with life...
El fiscal pactar? con Urdangarin si acepta 6 a?os y paga 6 millones | Baleares | EL MUNDO
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Today, legally, a descendant of Juan Carlos I can only be away from the succession to the Crown, if the person is married against the opinion of the King and Parliament.
Infanta Cristina can resign, but the decision is free and voluntary, and should not have pressure.
So King Felipe's hands are tied, he can not take away her rights, nor can pressure her to resign, because then the waiver may be invalidated later.
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that's interesting, so felipe doesn't have the rights to decide whether to remove titles from the ex royal family members or remove them from the line of succession in this sort of extreme situation?
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the article below mentions that the public prosecutor will offer urdangarin the possibility to accept a 6 year prison charge and him returning the total of 6 million. if he doesn't accept, he could face charges of up to 20 years of prison. however, they also mention in the article that urdangarin is not willing to negotiate a prison charge and will only negotiate on the basis of returning the money. they say in the article the prosecutor would not accept a penalty based on money only, and wants him to enter prison.
it's shameful that he's only willing to return the money he abducted, as if nothing had happened and get on with life...
El fiscal pactar? con Urdangarin si acepta 6 a?os y paga 6 millones | Baleares | EL MUNDO |
For the prosecutors to play this kind of hardball, they either have an awful lot on him, or the public won't stand for anything less, or both.
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How low have the mighty fallen! Inaki Urdangarin, former Golden Boy of the Spanish Royal Family and rumored to have been favored by Juan Carlos, could be headed to the slammer?! 
I feel terribly sad for the Urdangarin children. Shame on Cristina and Inaki. 
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How low have the mighty fallen! Inaki Urdangarin, former Golden Boy of the Spanish Royal Family and rumored to have been favored by Juan Carlos, could be headed to the slammer?!
I feel terribly sad for the Urdangarin children. Shame on Cristina and Inaki. |
Hmmm, I suddenly thought of the Orange is the New Black series - only this one will be Orange is the New Purple.
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I refuse to believe that Inaki is anywhere near 15-20 years of jailtime. You get away with much less for manslaughter.
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For as guilty as he is supposed to be 20 years are exaggerated to me... If I think that Pistorius got away with much much less for manslaughter...
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12-09-2014, 08:50 AM
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For as guilty as he is supposed to be 20 years are exaggerated to me... If I think that Pistorius got away with much much less for manslaughter...
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I completely agree. They want to make an example out of Inaki, who certainly does deserve to be punished. But unlike Pistorius he didn't kill anybody  !
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12-09-2014, 08:55 AM
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I completely agree. They want to make an example out of Inaki, who certainly does deserve to be punished. But unlike Pistorius he didn't kill anybody ! |
I know law is law so I'm talking from a human POV 
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well I think he is going to be considered guilty and he is going to prison...not for 19 years but at least 10...
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??? So was I. Twenty years seems excessive for this particular crime.
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I have to agree with GracieGiraffe. If the prosecutor is pushing such a harsh sentence for a person with no known criminal history, he must have some extraordinary information that has not been made public.
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I have to agree with GracieGiraffe. If the prosecutor is pushing such a harsh sentence for a person with no known criminal history, he must have some extraordinary information that has not been made public.
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In addition, I think this amount of time reflects the possibility of consecutive sentences for more than one crime.
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In addition, I think this amount of time reflects the possibility of consecutive sentences for more than one crime.
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That was my thought too. Also, that amount of time may be the maximum he could be sentenced to. A lot of times you hear the penalty for xxx is doing 15-20 and eligible for parole at yyy.
We'll just have to see what happens.
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For the prosecutors to play this kind of hardball, they either have an awful lot on him, or the public won't stand for anything less, or both.
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GG-Do we have similar sentencing in the U.S.?
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