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Old 06-18-2018, 04:43 AM
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INAKI ENTERED PRISON TODAY

Caso Nóos: Iñaki Urdangarin ingresa en la cárcel de Brieva en Ávila | España
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Old 06-18-2018, 05:52 AM
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If I understand it correctly he is in the prison of Ávila, a 1 1/2 hour drive away from Madrid.
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Old 06-18-2018, 07:03 AM
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Indeed, most interesting bit of information is that until his arrival this morning the prison only housed female prisoners, so he will be the only male prisinor, so lots of privacy.
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Old 06-18-2018, 08:15 AM
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Wondering, HOW LONG he actually will stay in prison. I am convinced not the entire time.
How is the Spanish law, will he be pardoned after 2/3 of the time, if he behaved well?
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Old 06-18-2018, 10:50 AM
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He is in Prison , a Brother in Law of the King. Terrible Situation.
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Old 06-18-2018, 12:04 PM
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Wondering, HOW LONG he actually will stay in prison. I am convinced not the entire time.
How is the Spanish law, will he be pardoned after 2/3 of the time, if he behaved well?
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he will need to spend there at least 17 months. after that, i believe some permissions could be made. this was what was reported by the media, i am unsure of the details.
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Wondering, HOW LONG he actually will stay in prison. I am convinced not the entire time.
How is the Spanish law, will he be pardoned after 2/3 of the time, if he behaved well?
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he will need to spend there at least 17 months. after that, i believe some permissions could be made. this was what was reported by the media, i am unsure of the details.
Not sure about the exact procedures either but like everyone else he is not expected to serve the full sentence (as nobody in Spain is). The first 1/4th (in his case 17 months) of the sentence he is not allowed to leave prison, after that initial period he can apply for permissions to leave the prison (but not country) for short durations of time as part of the resocialization process.

His case is high profile so I don't expect any leniency but it would be equally unfair if he had to stay longer just because of public opinion. They surely want to make sure that the official rules are followed.
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This page suggests that in Spain conditional release can be granted after 3/4 of the sentence served. Which is a rather long period compared to other European countries; in the case of first time offenders with a sentence of this length:
- 1/3rd: Belgium
- 1/2: UK, Luxembourg, Portugal, France, Italy, Poland
- 3/5th: Greece
- 2/3rd: The Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, Germany
- 3/4er: Spain

Each country imposes different conditions on conditional release.
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This article explains the 4 different regimes in the Spanish system. My interpretation is that unless a judge decides differently it is likely that Iñaki has to serve his sentence in prison for the first half of his sentence (as he is sentenced for more than 5 years), the third quarter he might serve in third category; meaning he has to report to prison 4 nights a week but can spend the weekend outside of prison walls and the final quarter he is most likely on parole.
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Is he now in an isolation cell or does he have contact with other people? Or how is closed or maximum security regime to understand?
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Is he now in an isolation cell or does he have contact with other people? Or how is closed or maximum security regime to understand?
He is not in an isolation cell. I am not even sure he is in maxumum security, he might be in ordinary confinement. He actually will have a full (small) wing to himself as he is the only male prisoner at this detention center. Today he had many different visits by a medical doctor, psychologist etc, he will stay at an 'entrance' cell tonight and only brought to his new 13m2 room tomorrow. According to the former male prisoner who stayed in this prison for 10 years being the only prisoner on your block is the hardest part.
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Wondering, HOW LONG he actually will stay in prison. I am convinced not the entire time.
How is the Spanish law, will he be pardoned after 2/3 of the time, if he behaved well?
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About 2,5 years, he could asks for the called, third degree, it is, he should only go to sleep to prision or remain in the jail for 8 hours to day. About Three years in jail, he could request freedom without conditions, if he meets the requirements, the judge can grant it. he would be free.

Everything depends on the judicial authority, even a judge could change the times,
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This decision on the prison in a way makes sense to me and then again on another angle, it doesn't.

On one hand, he's in a place with an entire block to himself as its primarily a prison for women. On the other hand, to me, that's either going to be years of solitary confinement or if there is human interaction that every person does need, other than his wardens and caretakers and counselors, its going to be with women and for a healthy male, isn't that like dangling a carrot in front of the horse?

I just sincerely hope that Inaki has the strength and stamina and the support of all his loved ones to see him through this. Its not going to be easy by any means.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:30 PM
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This decision on the prison in a way makes sense to me and then again on another angle, it doesn't.

On one hand, he's in a place with an entire block to himself as its primarily a prison for women. On the other hand, to me, that's either going to be years of solitary confinement or if there is human interaction that every person does need, other than his wardens and caretakers and counselors, its going to be with women and for a healthy male, isn't that like dangling a carrot in front of the horse?

I just sincerely hope that Inaki has the strength and stamina and the support of all his loved ones to see him through this. Its not going to be easy by any means.
He isn't supposed to have a lot of interaction with the women based on the information the former male prisoner provided. In terms of security and privacy for a high profile inmate apparently this was the preferred arrangement and it's not likely that having him interact with female murderers on a regular basis is high on the list of anybody in the judicial system.

If I understand it correctly, next to the weekly 40 minutes conversation in person and a total of 50 minutes of phone conversations per week, he is allowed one private visit and one family visit a month.
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Hopefully the children will holiday in Mallorca with queen Sofia and the Marichalar cousins it might take minds off this sorry state of affairs for them.
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I hope, too, that Inaki finds ways to use his internment (and what seems to be somewhat a solitary confinement) to his advantage. Catch up on reading books he's never had time for before, a physical workout regime or taking up an interest in an online course on a subject he's been interested in but didn't have the time to pursue (should he be allowed a laptop). The man is going to have serious alone time.
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I hope, too, that Inaki finds ways to use his internment (and what seems to be somewhat a solitary confinement) to his advantage. Catch up on reading books he's never had time for before, a physical workout regime or taking up an interest in an online course on a subject he's been interested in but didn't have the time to pursue (should he be allowed a laptop). The man is going to have serious alone time.
He hasn't been working for about 6 years now, so he should have had time to pursue his interests. Chief among them seems to have been sports and there is a small gym for him to use - not sure how many hours a day he is allowed out of his cell to make use of that.

i am quite sure by now he learned the lesson he most had to learn which is did not even an infanta and her husband are above the law (only the king is).
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