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11-25-2009, 04:19 PM
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AFP: Spain's Princess Elena to divorce
Is already clear how long it will take until the divorce is to be finalized (= Jaime will be removed from casareal website and give up his title)? Until now it's only an agreement, the actual act of divorce is still to follow.
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11-25-2009, 09:29 PM
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The title is enjoyed as a courtesy only and held by Infanta Elena in her own right for her lifetime. It was not granted to Jaime in his own right, so it cannot be expected to be retained with divorce.
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11-25-2009, 09:56 PM
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So pre divorce, Jaime is known as HRH the Duke of Lugo?
Is the Spanish aristocracy similar to the English ie. after her divorce Sarah was known as Sarah, Duchess of York and not The Duchess of York. Will Jaime be known as Jaime, Duke of Lugo?
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11-25-2009, 11:30 PM
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From what I understand from branchg's post is that Jaime will lose the Duke title altogether after the divorce, but Elena may use the Duchess of Lugo title. Have I understood correctly or do I need another cup of coffee? 
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11-26-2009, 04:11 AM
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From what I understand from branchg's post is that Jaime will lose the Duke title altogether after the divorce, but Elena may use the Duchess of Lugo title. Have I understood correctly or do I need another cup of coffee? |
Spanish princess to divorce after 14 years of marriage : Europe World
Yes this seems to be correct - still the King might grant him some goodies for keeping it civil in the first place. It seems that Elena was the driving force behind the split, not Jaime. He will get his pay-off / reward for not spilling the beans in one way or the other.
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11-26-2009, 05:56 AM
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So pre divorce, Jaime is known as HRH the Duke of Lugo?
Is the Spanish aristocracy similar to the English ie. after her divorce Sarah was known as Sarah, Duchess of York and not The Duchess of York. Will Jaime be known as Jaime, Duke of Lugo?
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Don Jaime was styled His Excellency the Duke of Lugo & was never a HRH,his wife is Royal,but Don Jaime is not .
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11-26-2009, 09:08 AM
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From what I understand from branchg's post is that Jaime will lose the Duke title altogether after the divorce, but Elena may use the Duchess of Lugo title. Have I understood correctly or do I need another cup of coffee? |
With marriage, Juan Carlos granted the title "Duchess of Lugo" to his daughter, Infanta Elena, for her lifetime. It is not hereditary and her children are styled His/Her Excellency with the rank of Grandee of Spain.
Jaime enjoyed the use of the style as a courtesy of marriage to Elena and was allowed the rank of His Excellency. He loses these attributes with divorce as the title was granted to Elena only by the King.
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I am glad to see that they have completed things quietly (although I did not expect it to go any other way). I am also glad that Jaime will not keep the title and style, since both were afforded to him by marriage to Elena. I know that this is a relief to them both and hope them both my happiness in the future.
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To Warren, this thread is to long . Could you separate 2009 - thanks
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I hope that they can have a civil relationship with each other for the sake of their young children. I wish them well.
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11-27-2009, 09:18 PM
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I am shocked to learn that it was Infanta Elena, who chose (due to some important reasons) to seek a divorce. Still I am sure Infanta Elena spent a considerable amount of time thinking carefully and seriously about the separation from her husband and divorce.
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It is sad that it had to come to this but I'm sure Elena must have had good reasons. She seems like a level-headed lady and they had a long separation so it wasn't a hasty decision. I wish all parties involved (especially the children) all the best.
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I'm curious as to whether, or how soon, the Vatican will grant her/them an annulment.
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