The Dukes of Lugo Announce Separation (2007) & Divorce (2009)

[Al_bina]

I am inclined to agree with RhapsodyBrat (see post#258). We are not privy to any special information concerning relationships between Duke and Duchess of Lugo. Right Duke of Marmalade is noting that Zarzuela would prefer the couple in question to be separated, but not divorced. Perhaps, Infanta Elena has agreed to entertian the idea of living separately and thus, has not taken any further steps towards a divorce.

[chuchu]

I feel very strongly that the relationship between two people are nobody's business except themselves.

[Ana Bolena]

Originally Posted by chuchu

I feel very strongly that the relationship between two people are nobody's business except themselves.

I'm agree with you.

[maria-olivia]

At the Comtesse de Paris Auction, a small silver box was sold : Elena and Jaime 1995.

I think that if the Duke of Lugo did not had important healthproblems after he played tennis ? they should always be to-gether. Jaime's face completely changed since then . That is sad .. and that is life.

[donnaK]

Originally Posted by biboquinhas

I really think they should get divorced as soon as they can. If they really want the divorce, they are separed already... so way delay things more???? This situation is good for the press start inventing stories, so they need and they should get their divorced as soon as possible! I cannot understand why they don't take this decision. Their kids know already that they are separeted, they live in different houses, they don't share anything, so why delay things???I cannot understand If they don't have their situation solve they should do that, because they are married persons and they don't live together, they are separated, they don't share anything more 8only the kids of course), so why still married???

You have a good point. I heard that Jaime didn't want the divorce. I think Zarzuela doesn't want an ugly divorce, Elena also wants to protect the children, thus they are giving Jaime a little more time.

Originally Posted by maria-olivia

At the Comtesse de Paris Auction, a small silver box was sold : Elena and Jaime 1995.

I think that if the Duke of Lugo did not had important healthproblems after he played tennis ? they should always be to-gether. Jaime's face completely changed since then . That is sad .. and that is life.

Their marriage had already been in trouble before Jaime's stroke. I think Elena was waiting for her brother to settle down to leave her hubby.

[Al_bina]

Originally Posted by donnaK

... I heard that Jaime didn't want the divorce. I think Zarzuela doesn't want an ugly divorce, Elena also wants to protect the children, thus they are giving Jaime a little more time. [snipped]

That is an interesting development. Is there anything wrong with living separated?

[donnaK]

Originally Posted by Al_bina

That is an interesting development. Is there anything wrong with living separated?

It works OK now since neither seems to have a new partner. It can be a problem though if one day Elena finds a new boyfriend and wants to get married again.

[Al_bina]

I see... At this moment Infanta Elena can wait for further developments. Given your words (see post#265), Don Jaime has got a rather strong incentive (I am not sure what this incetive might be) to be legally married to Infanta Elena. This can explain his reluctance to complete the process.

[biboquinhas]

I found it very strange, many other Royal couples have been divorced, so what's wrong with them? I don't know...are they going to live all their lifes like this? Separation only ends with couple's dutties ( fidelity, dwelling together... ) but only divorce ends with the marriage, so maybe they want to keep their marriage for some other reasons despite love

[Kotroman]

There is something I've wanted to know ever since they got married: does Infanta Elena hold the title Duchess of Lugo suo jure or as spouse of the Duke of Lugo? If she holds it as the Duke of Lugo's spouse, wouldn't she lose the title if divorce occurs?

[ladejesus]

Originally Posted by Kotroman

There is something I've wanted to know ever since they got married: does Infanta Elena hold the title Duchess of Lugo suo jure or as spouse of the Duke of Lugo? If she holds it as the Duke of Lugo's spouse, wouldn't she lose the title if divorce occurs?

My understanding is that the title was given to Infanta Elena as a wedding present.

[RubyPrincess168]

But then there is royal precedent of couples staying married, but separating and living different lives. Archduke Karl and Archduchess Fransesca of Austria springs to mind.

[amedea]

Originally Posted by biboquinhas

I found it very strange, many other Royal couples have been divorced, so what's wrong with them? I don't know...are they going to live all their lifes like this? Separation only ends with couple's dutties ( fidelity, dwelling together... ) but only divorce ends with the marriage, so maybe they want to keep their marriage for some other reasons despite love

well, I can't remember divorced royal couples in catholic reigning houses; however I hope they have made the decision of not divorcing (for the moment) not for political reasons but for personal reasons such as sincere catholic faith and hope of reconciliation. That would be sweet (and consistent with their country tradition, if that is important)

[iowabelle]

Originally Posted by amedea

well, I can't remember divorced royal couples in catholic reigning houses; however I hope they have made the decision of not divorcing (for the moment) not for political reasons but for personal reasons such as sincere catholic faith and hope of reconciliation. That would be sweet (and consistent with their country tradition, if that is important)

Caroline of Monaco and Philippe Junot spring to mind.

[heathshire]

Originally Posted by maria-olivia

At the Comtesse de Paris Auction, a small silver box was sold : Elena and Jaime 1995.

I think that if the Duke of Lugo did not had important healthproblems after he played tennis ? they should always be to-gether. Jaime's face completely changed since then . That is sad .. and that is life.

Are their pictures of him before out there? I have never seen them

[misselle]

Originally Posted by iowabelle

Caroline of Monaco and Philippe Junot spring to mind.

Junot was caught cheating and Ranier and Grace did not like him so they were glad for a reason for Caroline to drop him.And Caroline also eventually went through Vatican channels for an annulment.

I was very saddened when I heard of Elena's separation and was just wondering,yesterday,if a divorce had occurred or not.It would be a wonderful thing for them if a reconciliation were possible.

[ladejesus]

So far there has been no divorce announced. There also hasn't been anything to suggest either way with regards to the possibility of reconciliation.

[Duke of Marmalade]

it looks like the situation will stay like this for a long time. the biographer pilar urbano claims in her book that

Doña Sofía le ha confesado que doña Elena “sabe que no se puede divorciar. De momento, la Reina me asegura que no se ha dado ningún paso. «Están sacando de donde no hay», me dice. No hay ni abogados ni divorcio ni nada. «Esta situación –y cito a la Reina– puede quedarse como está, empeorar o mejorar, y a lo que estamos es a que dé de sí todo lo que pueda dar.»

what means that we probably will never see a divorce and that elena will lead a life a la birgitta of sweden and her estranged husband, prince hansi.

[carlota]

DIVORCE IS NOW OFFICIAL

La Infanta Elena y Jaime de Marichalar se divorcian de mutuo acuerdo | España | elmundo.es

[lula]

Originally Posted by carlota

DIVORCE IS NOW OFFICIAL

La Infanta Elena y Jaime de Marichalar se divorcian de mutuo acuerdo | España | elmundo.es

IT IS NOT OFFICIAL. This newspaper has gone forward, expanding a news and creating confusion, probably for wanting to be the first ones in giving the news, the holder they write it affirming something that then they say that it will take place in the next days . The divorce still is not official, until the Royal House or the attorneys do not communicate it, it will not be official, and for the present time there has been no communiqué.