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06-16-2019, 01:55 PM
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It's still nice nevertheless to see the Urdangarins are so close to Infanta Elena's children. I've hardly seen them with Princess Leonor and Infanta Sofia lately, though. Felipe's family seem pretty separated from Elena and Cristina and their children.
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Leonor and Sofia are much younger and of little interest for the age group of Felipe, Victoria or Pablo.
They are likely to be close to Irene who is the same age.
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06-16-2019, 03:14 PM
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He has a history of loutish behavior at least his cousin Don Pablo Nicolás Urdangarin cheered him up!
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Who was driving Pablo's car ?
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06-16-2019, 05:35 PM
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Leonor and Sofia are much younger and of little interest for the age group of Felipe, Victoria or Pablo.
They are likely to be close to Irene who is the same age.
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True, though they don't even seem to be terribly close to Irene either from what I know of (apart from when they see each other for Easter and occasional grandchildren's outings to the theatre with Queen Sofia), though if Irene and her family still live in Geneva, it's probably difficult to arrange meet-ups regularly.
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Who was driving Pablo's car ?
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Perhaps Pablo? He's 18 now and legal to drive himself in Spain now.
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06-19-2019, 10:07 PM
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Perhaps Pablo? He's 18 now and legal to drive himself in Spain now.
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I don't think so. He got out on the passenger side.
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06-20-2019, 03:38 PM
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Victoria Federica is celebrating her debut into society with a big party at a residence outside Madrid this evening, June 20:
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06-20-2019, 04:18 PM
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06-20-2019, 04:53 PM
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Queen Sofia and Infanta Elena are there too,exciting evening for Doña Victoria Federica!
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06-20-2019, 06:02 PM
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 Indeed! It's lovely to see so many guests at Victoria Federica's society party.
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I don't think so. He got out on the passenger side.
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Ah OK, I didn't see that clearly. Probably a security guard or a chauffeur then, I presume.
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06-25-2019, 05:48 PM
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 I hope the pig was returned to it's natural environment by Casa Real as given the fact that so many species are now endangered and the climate is changing rapidly, it's not good at all and boderline animal abuse IMO.
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06-26-2019, 04:08 AM
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 I hope the pig was returned to it's natural environment by Casa Real as given the fact that so many species are now endangered and the climate is changing rapidly, it's not good at all and boderline animal abuse IMO.
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Victoria is not a member of the Royal Family ... Casa Real has nothing to do about an animal that has been a gift from her friends.
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06-26-2019, 05:19 PM
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Victoria is not a member of the Royal Family ... Casa Real has nothing to do about an animal that has been a gift from her friends.
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Mea culpa. Well, in any case, I hope the pig will be returned.
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07-26-2019, 10:30 PM
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Victoria is not a member of the Royal Family ... Casa Real has nothing to do about an animal that has been a gift from her friends.
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Victoria Federica's mother is the daughter of a Spanish King. Her mother is an Infanta. Why is not Victoria, the granddaughter of a Spanish sovereign, not a member of the Royal Family?
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07-26-2019, 11:49 PM
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Victoria Federica's mother is the daughter of a Spanish King. Her mother is an Infanta. Why is not Victoria, the granddaughter of a Spanish sovereign, not a member of the Royal Family?
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I think what Lula is saying is Victoria Fererica is a member of the 'King's Family' (extended family) but not of the 'Royal Family of Spain.' If I'm not mistaken the RF only includes the King, Queen and children and King JC and Queen Sofia.
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08-05-2019, 04:41 PM
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I think what Lula is saying is Victoria Fererica is a member of the 'King's Family' (extended family) but not of the 'Royal Family of Spain.' If I'm not mistaken the RF only includes the King, Queen and children and King JC and Queen Sofia.
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Doña Victoria Federica de Marichalar was a member of the Spanish Royal Family up until the abdication of King Juan Carlos when membership of the RF was restricted by the new king ,King Felipe VI.However Doña Victoria Federica is still 5th inline to the throne and along with her mother,siblings/aunt Cristina,her children and great aunts now are classed as members of the Kings Family.
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08-06-2019, 02:25 AM
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Doña Victoria Federica de Marichalar was a member of the Spanish Royal Family up until the abdication of King Juan Carlos when membership of the RF was restricted by the new king ,King Felipe VI.However Doña Victoria Federica is still 5th inline to the throne and along with her mother,siblings/aunt Cristina,her children and great aunts now are classed as members of the Kings Family.
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Indeed. This was what Lula was talking about. She might be 5th in line or a daughter of an Infanta but she's 18 years already. The Vietnamese pig wrapped in Spanish flag gift has nothing to do with the Spanish RF nor the issues involving her brother Felipe (21) and girlfriend Mar Torres.
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08-06-2019, 03:00 AM
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Does Victoria Frederica study? Where she lives?
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08-06-2019, 03:30 AM
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Does Victoria Frederica study? Where she lives?
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She's also studying at the same Uni as her brother. It's at the College of International Studies, Madrid.
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