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07-10-2020, 07:52 AM
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That's also why the CP needs the permission of Stortinget to get married.
(I don't know if the other members of teh RF need the permission of Stortinget too, actually.... does anyone know?)
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The Constitution requires the King's permission only. The requirement applies to any Prince or Princess (and will likely be interpreted to apply to the Behn daughters as well) who wishes to remain in the order of succession after marriage.
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A Prince or Princess entitled to succeed to the Crown of Norway may not marry without the consent of the King. [...]
If he or she acts contrary to this rule, they and their descendants forfeit their right to the throne of Norway.
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It's the tradition that a wife takes on her husband's titles and not the other way around. Since Haakon is the crown prince, his wife Mette-Marit becomes crown princess. Even if they weren't royal, a woman takes her husband's name. If Joe Smith married Jane Doe, they would be Mr and Mrs. Smith, not Mr. and Mrs. Doe.
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It is allowed for a husband to take his wife's name under Norwegian law. Given that all married princes of the present royal house have been kings or crown princes, and none of the married princesses have been, I think it is too early to assume that Prince Sverre Magnus's wife will take his title while Princess Ingrid Alexandra will take her husband's name (Princess Märtha Louise did not).
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07-26-2020, 05:47 AM
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Very beautiful tribute!
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07-26-2020, 05:26 PM
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Is there a reason why she did it in English?
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07-26-2020, 05:35 PM
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ML posts in a mixture of English and Norwegian on Instagram as do most people who don't have English as their first language when on social media. Perhaps the nanny taught her English?
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07-27-2020, 11:13 AM
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A beautiful tribute. In additon, the fact that Mrs. Tversland was able to start as a nanny and finish as a marshal of the court is a very good look for the Norwegian monarchy.
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08-24-2020, 02:51 PM
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ML has posted something on Instagram - about herself.
This time about suffering from depression, which indeed is a very serious thing for those who go down with depression.
But read for yourselves, in English: https://www.instagram.com/p/CERRCcAg...ource=ig_embed
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08-24-2020, 03:42 PM
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It's a very serious thing for her girls to have both parents so seriously affected.
It also makes me think ML would still be able to help a lot of people if she didn't insist on shooting herself in the foot. And/or looking for love in all the wrong places.
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08-24-2020, 05:07 PM
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It's a very serious thing for her girls to have both parents so seriously affected.
It also makes me think ML would still be able to help a lot of people if she didn't insist on shooting herself in the foot. And/or looking for love in all the wrong places.
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Yes, it worries me for the girls that both of their parents were/ are suffering from depression. Nobody's fault but it must be quite hard for them.
I agree with you. As she says in her post, she thankfully has many people who support her (especially the NRF I imagine) but I don't think the Shaman will ultimately provide what she is seeking  In my opinion he is a conman, I don't think his strange stuff will help her and if he shows his true face at some point in the future, she'll feel even worse.
I think it's great that she is opening up about her depression. Openness with the subject can help many people and perhaps people will show her more understanding now. I do think she means well and to her public (and maybe personal) detriment she's madly in love with the Shaman. Love is sometimes blind.
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08-24-2020, 05:29 PM
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It is heartening that Martha Louise is open about her depression. It tells me that she's very aware of it and knows she needs a good support system. She's not battling this alone. Its all the more important if, by chance, being so "in love" with the Shaman (whom I also believe is as phony as a three sided coin), when and if he does show his "true colors", it will hit ML as a ton of bricks if being blinded in love never allowed her to see all the red flags.
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08-24-2020, 05:33 PM
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Yes, it worries me for the girls that both of their parents were/ are suffering from depression. Nobody's fault but it must be quite hard for them.
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It's environmental and hereditary. Aside from being very stressful, the chances of any of them having to deal with the same thing are now awfully high.
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I agree with you. As she says in her post, she thankfully has many people who support her (especially the NRF I imagine) but I don't think the Shaman will ultimately provide what she is seeking In my opinion he is a conman, I don't think his strange stuff will help her and if he shows his true face at some point in the future, she'll feel even worse.
I think it's great that she is opening up about her depression. Openness with the subject can help many people and perhaps people will show her more understanding now. I do think she means well and to her public (and maybe personal) detriment she's madly in love with the Shaman. Love is sometimes blind.
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I think ML does seem to have a lot of supportive friends. (And her family, of course.). I agree with you and I hope she realizes — sooner rather than later — that Verrett is really not the best choice.
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08-25-2020, 02:01 AM
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I do 't think the post was meant to open up about deep struggles, but who knows.
Norwegians face a lot more mental health problems, the winterdepression alone is a huge thing in norway.
the tweet mentioning her nanny told me a lot more, Märtha mentioned before having problems while growing up and maybe this lady was a big help though the points mentioned open up a lot about issues Märtha is widely criticised for today, this lady supported this at very young age, maybe not so wise considering the girl's future.
all the best.
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08-28-2020, 05:19 PM
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Sad to hear that ML is also suffering from depression. Depression and other mental health problems are hereditary in my family too, so I am all too familiar with how this can impact everyone. I truly hope that ML's daughters won't have severe depression too.
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08-28-2020, 07:12 PM
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My concern for Princess Martha Louise after reading her latest Instagram is that she may be suffering from some clinical depression or mood disorder. A more conventional treatment with an antidepressant may be beneficial but I don't think that is ML's style. Even wholistic treatments such as a light box, vitamin and nutrient therapy may be of value. Staying away from magical thinking and unproven treatments Shaman style could do a lot of harm.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CERRCcAgFP2/
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08-28-2020, 09:05 PM
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I have followed PML and like others I am concerned for her mental health as well as her children. The only thing the public can do is pray in their own ways for the princess and the children. I hope those closest to her are doing whatever they can do help her lead a healthy life. I am sure they are.
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08-29-2020, 02:10 AM
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My concern for Princess Martha Louise after reading her latest Instagram is that she may be suffering from some clinical depression or mood disorder. A more conventional treatment with an antidepressant may be beneficial but I don't think that is ML's style. Even wholistic treatments such as a light box, vitamin and nutrient therapy may be of value. Staying away from magical thinking and unproven treatments Shaman style could do a lot of harm.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CERRCcAgFP2/
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Interesting.
Perhaps she is indeed undergoing shamanist treatment for her depression?
According to Durak's thinking you should be able to stave off depression by positive thinking and pretty much ignoring your depression. I.e. You only get a depression, if you unconsciously want to.
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08-29-2020, 02:22 AM
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I hope Princess Martha Louise can recover from this depression. I hope she's close to her family right now and is followed by a good specialist.
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08-29-2020, 09:00 AM
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Martha Louise has been through a lot this year, and I'm sorry for her. One of my family members suffers from depression. I also have a friend who is manic-depressive. He has told me that depression is never really cured, and be prepared for periodic relapses. It's good that Martha Louise has family support, but I hope that she is also getting professional help, and not just relying on Durek's methods. Talking to someone outside the situation is important.
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08-29-2020, 12:19 PM
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I hope Martha Louise stays close to her children. She will have lots of support from her family. I have no clue what she sees in that man anyway. He makes me feel uneasy don't know why. I wish her the best.
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08-29-2020, 12:43 PM
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Since she doesn't actually specify it's hard to say if she has been diagnosed with a form of long term depression or if she is "just" (and this is definitely not taking it lightly) really struggling with the many extremely difficult events of this year, which could knock anyone into a hole.
I do hope she has actually consulted medical and mental health professionals if necessary and isn't relying on her boyfriend's snake oil to heal herself. It is good news that she knows she has many supportive friends and family around her.
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