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Seems like Ari tries to do something in his own name for oce - in his biography from the homepage of the china-manufacturer nothing is said about his marriage to ML.
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04-24-2007, 06:47 AM
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Nice glasses but i am not sure i like the china.
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04-24-2007, 08:29 AM
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I like the glassware.
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08-02-2009, 10:06 AM
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How Come Ari Behn doesn't have a title?
I was wondering how come Princess Märtha Louise's husband Ari Behn doesn't have a title and isn't a prince. It's sort of strange since Prince Haakon's wife has a title. 
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08-02-2009, 10:32 AM
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Possible because Her Highness Princess Martha Louise has tried to distance herself from the Royal Family. Hence the Her Highness not Her Royal Highness.
Maud Angelica, Leah Isadora or Emma Tallulah have no royal titles.
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08-02-2009, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedDial
I was wondering how come Princess Märtha Louise's husband Ari Behn doesn't have a title and isn't a prince. It's sort of strange since Prince Haakon's wife has a title.
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Ari Behn isn't the only one who didn't get a Royal title.
When King Harald's sisters, Princess Astrid and Princess Ragnhild, got married to commoners, neither of their husbands got a title either; neither did their children. They only got their fathers' surnames (Ferner and Lorentzen).
The same goes for Ari Behn's and Princess Märtha's daughters.
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Possible because Her Highness Princess Martha Louise has tried to distance herself from the Royal Family
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Märtha gave up her title when she married Ari Behn. She didn't do that to distance herself from the Royal Family, but to be able to start her own business...
(what she did... with her angel school and everything  ).
Neither Märtha nor Ari are members of the "Royal House". They are only members of the "Royal Family".
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08-03-2009, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Her_Majesty
Ari Behn isn't the only one who didn't get a Royal title.
When King Harald's sisters, Princess Astrid and Princess Ragnhild, got married to commoners, neither of their husbands got a title either; neither did their children. They only got their fathers' surnames (Ferner and Lorentzen).
The same goes for Ari Behn's and Princess Märtha's daughters.
Märtha gave up her title when she married Ari Behn. She didn't do that to distance herself from the Royal Family, but to be able to start her own business...
(what she did... with her angel school and everything ).
Neither Märtha nor Ari are members of the "Royal House". They are only members of the "Royal Family". |
But Haakon's wife is a commoner, and she got a title...is it just because Haakon's next in line to the throne?
Wow, all the different scenarios and rules are confusing. 
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08-03-2009, 01:32 AM
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But Haakon's wife is a commoner, and she got a title...is it just because Haakon's next in line to the throne?
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It's the tradition that a wife takes on her husband's titles and not the other way around. Since Haakon is the crown prince, his wife Mette-Marit becomes crown princess. Even if they weren't royal, a woman takes her husband's name. If Joe Smith married Jane Doe, they would be Mr and Mrs. Smith, not Mr. and Mrs. Doe. Sometimes commoner men who marry princesses are given titles, like Anthony Armstrong-Jones (Earl of Snowdon), Jaime de Marichalar (Duke of Lugo) and Inaki Urdangarin (Duke of Palma de Mallorca). However, some like the Princess Royal's ex-husband, Mark Phillips refused a title.
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08-03-2009, 03:39 AM
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But Haakon's wife is a commoner, and she got a title...is it just because Haakon's next in line to the throne?
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Yes, I think the wife of the CP gets a title as she has to become Queen.
That also happened to Sonja Haraldsen when she married Harald.
That's also why the CP needs the permission of Stortinget to get married.
(I don't know if the other members of teh RF need the permission of Stortinget too, actually.... does anyone know?)
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08-03-2009, 04:28 AM
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I'm not sure whether they need the Storting's permission to marry (I couldn't find it on the monarchy's website), but theoretically they might need to go to Queen Elizabeth II under the Royal Marriages Act of 1772, as Haakon VII is descended from the British Line via Queen Maud.
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08-03-2009, 11:26 AM
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Maud Angelica, Leah Isadora or Emma Tallulah have royal titles. |
What titles do they have?
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What titles do they have?
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They have no titles.
They only have their father's surname.
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What titles do they have?
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I beg your pardon, I seem to have missed the no from that sentence.
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Yes, I think the wife of the CP gets a title as she has to become Queen.
That also happened to Sonja Haraldsen when she married Harald.
That's also why the CP needs the permission of Stortinget to get married.
(I don't know if the other members of teh RF need the permission of Stortinget too, actually.... does anyone know?)
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It's only a formality. Once the king gives his consent, the Stortinget automatically agrees.
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05-28-2020, 12:38 PM
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Some of you may have heard about the black man in USA who was killed by police officers a few days ago, and that has caused a lot of controversy.
ML has also spoken her mind on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CAulG0cg...ource=ig_embed
The topic aside, it does raise some questions.
Who is Märtha Loiuse?
As a private person she is certainly entitled to comment on such a matter.
As a Norwegian Princess that's a no, no. Not least as it took place outside Norway.
Having read her Instagram account and what it says about her. I personally believe she is within her rights to give her opinion, because there is little to no reference to her being a princess.
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I think there will be a lot of people that will have the gut reaction that I did. I see a post on Instagram made by a woman that has spent her life in Norway (leaving out the royal part as it doesn't apply). She's a world away from the mood, the issues and the experiences of living in an environment where inhumanities such as what happened to George Floyd occur. To really understand something, one needs to walk a mile in their shoes to see it clearly.
She means well though. I'll give her that. 
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I saw the George Floyd photos and I could hardly believe my eyes. The weight of that officer's knee on that man's neck, the way the victim's neck was squashed and compressed, the terror in his eyes, and his cries for mercy will haunt me for a long time.
As an American citizen I am bewildered and heartbroken at what is happening to us. 
But while I appreciate ML's input as a person, I hope that she will be cognizant of the fact that anything she says will reflect on the Royal House as well...and exercise caution.
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I for one am glad to see a personal reaction from Martha Louise!
Martha Louise has been spending alot of time here in the US so she should be in tune as to how deplorable race relations are here in the US.
More than anything she is currently dating a black man here in the US. The reality is that George Floyd could have been the Shaman. Or just to see the reality of the daily fear black men go through simply by existing has now hit closer to home.
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For me ML's message brings some hope in these dark times at the moment as she's someone with a platform who can influence her followers - especially as she's European, and many people in European countries don't see racism as much of a problem as it is across the pond (which isn't necessarily true, it's just not talked about since it's not as systematic as it is in the US).
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