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01-18-2023, 12:00 PM
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Prince Daniel received his Father kidney before his Wedding. He looks fine ?
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01-18-2023, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Hans-Rickard
The entire Norwegian RF, Märtha very much included, is very close to the Swedish RF… They regard each other as ”family” and all the children, not just the heirs, have socialized since childhood.
Same with the Danish RF… The 3 scandinavian monarchies are super-tight and regards each other as the same family
Wether that applies to the Shaman too…….i don’t know… But Victoria is a diplomat out in her fingertips and wouldn’t say or do anything that she knows would hurt her friend Märtha Louise
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You needn't lecture a danish about "scandinavians" but thanks.
IMO Victoria is not close to the couple, but it doesn't matter at all.
As some might know Daniel's father was his donor then.
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01-18-2023, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by maria-olivia
Prince Daniel received his Father kidney before his Wedding. He looks fine ?
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Daniel is fine as far as we know, but unfortunately they don't last forever, and it's likely he'll need another one at some point.
Verrett may have other health complications that mean this one is failing more quickly.
Since he and ML are so clearly devoted to each other, though, I wonder why this is an obstacle? Why not just get married anyway? (He could use the Norwegian health care system for free, then...  )
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01-18-2023, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by valeas
You needn't lecture a danish about "scandinavians" but thanks.
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I haven't seen any lecture. Hans-Rickard simply answered the question you asked regarding the Scandinavian royals ("Was or is Märtha or Durek close to Victoria or Daniel?"), which I am sure many non-Danish readers are interested in as well.
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01-18-2023, 04:37 PM
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From that FB page I saw this picture he boasts, always as if his ego was bigger than the con job. I hope 2023 brings Martha's common sense back in place and away from these Hollywood-based creatures that attach themselves to celebrities as health gurus.
I assume this one below will soon be on the royal page to announce the wedding date?
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid...00044469608062
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01-18-2023, 06:41 PM
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I have also seen a crowdfunding site for him, but nobody has made money donations.
Some people have no decency, what a shame !
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01-18-2023, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hereditarytitles
There are illegal methods of getting a kidney, rich people somtimes do it. Not that I favour this, but ...Märtha could maybe tried to help him (with money) to get a new kidney.
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....and that would be an absolute and very seriously justified scandal for the NRF. Better hope that she does not.
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01-19-2023, 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by LadyFinn
Svensk Damtidning quotes Norwegian Se og Hør's paywall article:
Norwegian Se og Hør sheds new and partly different light on this hot topic: In an article published today, the couple's setbacks on the wedding front are described, "Doesn't get married without a new kidney".
It must be Shaman Durek's health problems that currently prevent him and Märtha Louise from becoming husband and wife, and Se og Hør refers to the groom-to-be's severe kidney disease. According to his own information, Shaman Durek has a kidney transplant, and if Se og Hør's information is correct, it must now be his deteriorating health that means the planned wedding has to be put aside until the situation has stabilized.
Märtha Louises bröllop i fara – efter Dureks relationsbeslut _*Svensk Dam
Durek Verrett og Märtha Louise_ - Setter bryllupet på vent
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In 2012 Durek received a kidney from his sister. A living kidney donor transplant lasts 15 to 20 years on average. Last Dec. 2021 it was reported on this thread Durek was receiving dialysis in LA waiting for a donor. Durek even announced Vampire Diaries actress Katerina Graham was going to donate her kidney but apparently she backed out.
What surprises me is the amount of traveling, activities and events Durek has participated in over this past year. Typically patients this ill are hospitalized or at home receiving close care until a live or cadaver donor can be found. It's a very complex process. I noticed in December he was on a beach in the Bahamas. A lot really doesn't add up.
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01-19-2023, 02:47 AM
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Durek has given an interview to Bild. Norwegian VG writes about it.
- We discuss different ideas, but I can reveal here: As long as I don't have a new kidney, the wedding plans are on hold, says Verrett to Bild.
On Wednesday afternoon, Verrett also confirmed to VG that the information in the newspaper is correct.
- I don't want to go in front of the altar and think about my health problems. It should be the best day of our lives - with a new kidney.
Durek says that Märtha is a close supporter, and looks after him. He comments also his relationship with the royal couple, that although many do not believe it, his relationship with King Harald and Queen Sonja is very good. They have supported him in the last weeks, months and it really means a lot to him.
Durek Verrett i tysk intervju_ – Bryllupsplanene satt på vent - VG
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01-19-2023, 03:45 AM
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by Lady Daly
What surprises me is the amount of traveling, activities and events Durek has participated in over this past year. Typically patients this ill are hospitalized or at home receiving close care until a live or cadaver donor can be found. It's a very complex process. I noticed in December he was on a beach in the Bahamas. A lot really doesn't add up.
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That is exactly what I have been thinking. A dear friend of mine had two donor kidneys, each lasted about 10 years. As is known they do not last for the rest of your life. After the loss of the last donor kidney, she had to go back to dialysis. She could hardly travel, felt unwell most of the times . No way she could have worked, she had to retire at the age of 48 and finally died at just 60.
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01-19-2023, 04:20 AM
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Rude and offensive posts and replies to them have been removed. Please stay respectful towards the people you discuss, whether you like them or not! This is a basic rule!
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01-19-2023, 04:26 AM
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Well, let' s believe he has a serious condition...
IMO he uses this as an excuse because both he and ML feel that people (maybe even the NRF) secretely disapprove of him but accept the Status quo as long as they don' t get married.
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01-19-2023, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Stefanie
Well, let' s believe he has a serious condition...
IMO he uses this as an excuse because both he and ML feel that people (maybe even the NRF) secretely disapprove of him but accept the Status quo as long as they don' t get married.
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There is no reason why they should get married, surely? and if he has got a serious condtion, and gets another kidney, then given what he has siad, one would expect him to marry ML then.
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01-19-2023, 11:02 AM
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Here is a long and profound article from The NewYork Times about the Shaman and the way he is working his "healing" sessions.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/03/s...am-shaman.html
I have a question to US members: Is there a statewide organization that organizes kidney donors and people who need a transplant?
We have this in Europe, called "eurotransplant", which is in Leiden, Netherlands. 8 countries are joined in the organization and are constantly communicating with each other.
Presently there are 14.000 people registered and waiting for a donor kidney.
Once they have matched the right donor the operation can be done. As we almost all have health insurance, the operation costs (which are high) are covered by the insurance.
I cannot imagine that sombody who is seriously ill and needs a donor kidney would not get an operation in the US because he/she cannot pay for it.
I got this idea because I saw the crowdfunding site for Derek V.
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01-19-2023, 11:59 AM
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Crowdfunding for Durek V?
Isn't he covered by Norwegian health service and/or the Norwegian royal family?
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01-19-2023, 12:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hereditarytitles
I have a question to US members: Is there a statewide organization that organizes kidney donors and people who need a transplant?
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I cannot imagine that sombody who is seriously ill and needs a donor kidney would not get an operation in the US because he/she cannot pay for it.
I got this idea because I saw the crowdfunding site for Derek V.
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https://unos.org/transplant/how-we-match-organs/
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Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair
Crowdfunding for Durek V?
Isn't he covered by Norwegian health service and/or the Norwegian royal family?
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While sometimes nationalized health care systems will absorb costs for urgent treatment of people without universal health care, this is both not an emergency and very expensive.
He is not a member of the NRF; they have no reason to cover his health care. (While I imagine King Harald might do so if absolutely necessary for humanitarian reasons and because he loves his daughter, I think it would have to be kept so quiet that not even Verrett would know.)
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01-19-2023, 01:26 PM
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Broadly spoken, every resident in Norway has access to the Norwegian health care system. There is an annual limit of expenditure (some 200 Euro a year) on the costs of medical treatments which ensures that everyone pays a little, but the sick are not burdened with the stress of huge medical bills.
That is why I am surprised Mr Verrett has to beg the general public for financial help to meet the costs for his kidney transplant.
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01-19-2023, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair
Broadly spoken, every resident in Norway has access to the Norwegian health care system. There is an annual limit of expenditure (some 200 Euro a year) on the costs of medical treatments which ensures that everyone pays a little, but the sick are not burdened with the stress of huge medical bills.
That is why I am surprised Mr Verrett has to beg the general public for financial help to meet the costs for his kidney transplant.
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However, as far as I am aware Durek is not a Norwegian resident. Would being engaged even be sufficient to qualify for a visa/residency permit?
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01-19-2023, 01:52 PM
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However, as far as I am aware Durek is not a Norwegian resident. Would being engaged even be sufficient to qualify for a visa/residency permit?
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I stand corrected, I thought he was living in Norway.
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01-19-2023, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair
Crowdfunding for Durek V?
Isn't he covered by Norwegian health service and/or the Norwegian royal family?
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The crowdfunding for Durek was back in 2012 for his first kidney transplant opened by his then boyfriend Hank Greenberg.
https://www.backerkit.com/projects/campaign--169
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