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Old 05-21-2019, 06:29 AM
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And the shaman needs to learn how to behave in royal circles. Taking her hand and kissing it was not appropriate during their interview on God Morgen Norge.
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:13 AM
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And the shaman needs to learn how to behave in royal circles. Taking her hand and kissing it was not appropriate during their interview on God Morgen Norge.
That is the least of the problems with him....
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:36 AM
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I don't know if he was personnaly invited at Princess Alexandra of B.'s Wedding ?
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:30 AM
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Maybe ML and a plus one.
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Old 05-21-2019, 10:07 AM
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Oh well,every family has one...

Every family has what? A shaman? A grifter? An outright embarrassment?

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Old 05-21-2019, 10:31 AM
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yes, every family has a selfproclaimed missfit ...


My sister also claims herself to be high sensitiv - ; i never found her so, when she insults me or sees to her profits.



These people only see their own sensitivity - but what about the people around them? But oh, they feel only their feelings are to be specialy regarded, as the others are sooo much more robust then pooor themselves.



I have seen it all, thank you very much!
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Old 05-21-2019, 11:48 AM
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Okay, let us see what ML said last evening during their seance.
https://www.nettavisen.no/livsstil/p...423687445.html

After addressing the press directly (see above) she talked about herself.
Hvis vi alltid er i samme mønster som vi alltid har vært i, så vil ting aldri endre seg. Vi kan ikke tro på samme system og tro at endring vil skje i verden. Det er vi som produserer hva Norge og verden er
– Vårt samfunn er laget av mange bokser, vi prøver å putte andre i bokser og er i bokser selv. Jeg ble født utenfor den normale boksen, men har alltid ønsket å være i den normale boksen


"If we always remain in the same pattern where we have always been, things will never change. We cannot believe in the same system and believe that change will take place in the world.
Our society is made from many boxes, we try an put other in boxes and (we) are in boxes ourselves. I was born outside the normal box, but (I) have always wished to be in the normal box."

Jeg startet å lytte til den jeg var. Når du tar inn mye fra andre mennesker, så begynner du å høre på mange mennesker der ute, fordi du tenker det som er inne i deg ikke er riktig og man tror at de forstår hvordan man skal leve livet, og det var det jeg begynte å gjøre. Det var da jeg begynte å miste meg og den jeg var.

"I started to listen to who I was. When you take in a lot from other people, then you start to listen to a lot of people out there, because you think that what is inside you is not real and you think they understand how you should live life and that's what I began to do. That's when I began to lose myself and the one I was."

Selv om folk mente jeg var lykkelig, var jeg ikke meg selv og da ble livet tomt. Men da jeg begynte å følge hjertet mitt, og min indre navigasjon, så begynte livet å endre seg.

"Even tough people believed I was happy, I was not myself and then life became empty. But when I started to follow my heart and my inner navigation, then life began to change."

Jeg forsto ikke hva som hadde skjedd, men jeg hadde nettopp lyttet til at den var. Det som endret livet mitt var å lytte til meg, og selvkjærlighet, og gjennom det klarte jeg å være der for så mange andre. Jeg er så glad for å være her med dere i dag og vi skal ha en fantastisk tid sammen, med denne fantastiske mannen ved min side

"I didn't understand what had happened but I had just listened to that is was. (The last bit does not quite make sense to me, perhaps a typo in the paper?)
What had changed my life was to listen to me and my love to myself and through that I managed to be there for so many others. I'm so happy to be here with you today and we are going to have a fantastic time together, with this fantastic man by my side."

Durek:
Dere har en fantastisk prinsesse, svarer sjaman Durek.

– Når vi er alene snakker vi alltid om hvor mye mer kjærlighet, lykke og glede vi kan gi tilbake til folk. Når vi snakker om ting kan klokken bli 4-5 om morgenen. Alt vi egentlig kan gjøre er å dele av oss selv,

"You have a fantastic princess.
When we are alone, we always talk about how much more love, happiness and joy we can give back to people. When we talk about things it can go on to 4-5 in the morning. All we really can do is to share ourselves."

Du trenger ikke være nødt til å fortsette å føle deg ille. Hver dag burde du våkne opp om morgenen og feire deg selv, fortelle hvor smart og intelligent du er og hvor flotte barn du har. Hvor mye du elsker denne verden,

"You need not continue to feel small/insignificant. Each day you ought to wake up in the morning and celebrate yourself, tell how smart and intelligent you are and how handsome children you have. How much you love this world."

The conferencier of the evening, so to speak, was dialogue-priest (whatever such an entity is?) Silje Trym Mathiassen, who started the whole thing by saying:
Jeg vil gi honnør til den styrken de fremviser ved å fortelle om egen tro og egne erfaringer.

– Prinsessen har mot til å sette kjærligheten i sentrum og det har vi alle noe å lære av av henne


"I will salute the strength they display by telling about (their) own faith and own experiences.
The Princess has the courage to put love in the center and in that we can all learn from her."

The show was changed from what originally intended, informed the D-priest the audience:
Det druknet av et hav av kritikk. Jeg har kjempet for å få til denne dialogen, fordi jeg mener spørsmålene, svarene og den motvekt kirken kan representerer vil være viktig i vårt møte. Religionsdialog handler ikke om å vende ryggen til det vi er uenig i, men å skape trygge uenighetsrom

"It drowned in a sea of criticism. I have struggled for having this dialogue, because I believe the questions, the answers and the counterweight the church can represent will be important in our meeting. Religion-dialogue is not about turning the back to what we disagree about, but to create a safe room for disagreeing."
(This was originally intended to take place in Stavanger Cathedral, as you recall.)

The priest ended by stating that ML had been subjected to a collective campaign of bullying.

- Interesting, eh?
I sure have an opinion about what ML said, but it's much more interesting to learn what you have to say.
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Old 05-21-2019, 02:55 PM
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They have interviewed Haakon at his event today
https://www.nrk.no/trondelag/kronpri...het-1.14559228
Crown Prince Haakon stated on Tuesday for the first time about his sister's business activity.

"- It is so that we follow what is said and written. What we want is to have a dialogue with my sister, especially about what goes on titling and business activity, he says to NRK.
- The Royal Family has a good cooperation with the media. The press does an important job in Norwegian society, says the Crown Prince."

its google translate so sorry for any mistakes
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Old 05-21-2019, 03:36 PM
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Aha!

To me this sounds like: We would really like to talk sense with my sister about her use of her title, in order to find an acceptable solution, (before we may be pressured into something drastic) but so far no luck.

It also sounds to me like: The ongoing feud between the Norwegian press and my sister has got nothing to do with the rest of the NRF! We wish to maintain an amiable relationship with the press.
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Old 05-21-2019, 03:44 PM
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yep, and it definitely does *not* sound like "no comment"
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Old 05-21-2019, 03:57 PM
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Princess Märtha Louise & her new love Durek Verrett: News & Information

I think Haakon is trying to deal with these circumstances as best he can and his diplomatic skills are being hotly tested . I am reminded of the fragile position that crown prince Felipe of Spain found himself when his sister and brother in law were imbroiled in scandal.
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Old 05-21-2019, 04:58 PM
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Sounds like the key members of the royal family want ML to give up her title if she wants to continue in this business.
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Old 05-21-2019, 05:43 PM
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I wonder if Haakon would take a harder line than his father? Its harder IMO for parents to be harder on their children than siblings can be.

It certainly doesn't sound like a full defence of his sister as I was possibly expecting him to. He seems to be acknowledging that there is an issue and it need resolving
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Old 05-21-2019, 05:49 PM
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I wonder if Haakon would take a harder line than his father? Its harder IMO for parents to be harder on their children than siblings can be.

It certainly doesn't sound like a full defence of his sister as I was possibly expecting him to. He seems to be acknowledging that there is an issue and it need resolving
It is true. From the statements it seems Haakon does not want to talk much about Martha Louise's new boyfriend, and he also did not give his opinion on Durek Verrett.
It seems that the Royal Family is dealing with this matter with some care.
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Old 05-22-2019, 12:16 AM
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Swedish web magazine Stoppa Pressarna quotes Märtha Louise and Shaman's interview Svensk Damtidning (it is behind a paywall).

- Märtha wore a blouse and when I looked into her eyes I just felt "wow". I felt and knew something, but I did not have time to sit down and analyze what it was right then, says Durek to Svensk Damtidning.
It is not possible to miss out on the fact that the couple are newly fallen in love. Just over a week ago, they told the whole world that they were a love couple and since then, nothing is alike.
The attention was enormous when the shaman landed in Oslo, just a few days before the Seventeenth May, Norway's National Day.
- Durek is my twin soul. When I met him, it felt like I had found home. Our souls recognized each other, says Märtha Louise.
Durek met King Harald, 82, and Queen Sonja, 81, and the meeting ended smoothly. The American grew up in a very wealthy environment and he has no problem bringing himself into "finer" circles.
- I grew up in a very wealthy and aristocratic family. My dad David Verrett was an engineer, architect and multi-millionaire, and we had the largest house where we lived outside San Francisco. We had several houses, yachts and nannies, and I was never allowed to wear jeans but had to wear a suit, says Durek who will soon return to Los Angeles.
The couple's relationship continues remotely but they do not in any way rule out that they will one day move together so that they can take care of each other full time.
- I can definitely imagine living with Durek, says Märtha Louise.
- What can you, says Durek, happily surprised.
Märtha Louises samboplan med sin shaman _ Stoppa Pressarna
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Old 05-22-2019, 03:40 AM
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Princess Märtha Louise and Durek Verrett held their workshop at the World Theater in Tromsø yesterday, May 21:


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Old 05-22-2019, 05:54 AM
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I'm trying so hard to root for them, and especially for ML, but they don't make it easy .... :) :).

"I grew up in a very wealthy and aristocratic family. My dad David Verrett was an engineer, architect and multi-millionaire, and we had the largest house where we lived outside San Francisco. We had several houses, yachts and nannies" ... of course .... (gasp gasp ...)....
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Old 05-22-2019, 06:13 AM
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So he grew up in a wealthy family perhaps, but certainly not an aristocratic one.

It sounds like he does not understand the difference.
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Old 05-22-2019, 06:16 AM
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Sounds like the key members of the royal family want ML to give up her title if she wants to continue in this business.
Aren’t royal titles and styles a prerogative of the King in Norway ? I suppose he can strip ML of her title unilaterally then.

I don’t think he can remove ML from the line of succession though, as her succession rights are guaranteed by the Norwegian constitution. If she insists, however, on marrying her new boyfriend, then there is the possibility of excluding her from the succession. It would suffice for the King not to consent to the marriage, which he can do.

Renunciation of succession rights , or removing them by an act of Parliament rather than a constitutional amendment., are difficult issues. As far as I know, the UK, the Netherlands and Spain have constitutional provisions to do that ( albeit with qualified majorities in the Netherlands and Spain, and subject to consent of other Commonwealth realms in the UK) , but I don’t see it as a possibility in Norway.
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:04 AM
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Perhaps after they have lived together for 12 months or so they might discover that the first flush of love and feelings has waned considerably to the point where they don't see a future together anymore.
Whatever happens they need a good long while to get to know one another before committing to anything more serious such as marriage.
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