Princess Märtha Louise & Durek Verrett: News & Information

[cathy50]

Originally Posted by principessa

All main private broadcaster in Germany are untrustworthy. They are spreader of most fake news. What a pity that they have a right to work!

Well, I used to live in a dictatorship so I think democratic structures who allow all media are important. But this gets offtopic. Have a nice day everybody.

[Heavs]

I suspect that the German network was taking what Durek said in the VF interview and spinning it into an engagement announcement. Whilst it certainly was an announcement of intent they aren't openly engaged yet.

Oh and I can just imagine the Nordic Magical Hot tub treatment. Whilst Durek brings the energy of the Aurora Borealis into your body.

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by Heavs

I suspect that the German network was taking what Durek said in the VF interview and spinning it into an engagement announcement. Whilst it certainly was an announcement of intent they aren't openly engaged yet.

Oh and I can just imagine the Nordic Magical Hot tub treatment. Whilst Durek brings the energy of the Aurora Borealis into your body.

Weren't auroras believed to be dancing spirits?

Anyway, the engagement announcement is IMO edging closer. I wonder what they are waiting for?

[Nice Nofret]

... probably for a lucky day, where all the good spritis have nothing better to do than to celebrate their wisdome and well rounded personalities

[Heavs]

Originally Posted by Muhler

Weren't auroras believed to be dancing spirits?

Anyway, the engagement announcement is IMO edging closer. I wonder what they are waiting for?

I believe they are/were considered spirits and/or ancestors to many tribes and peoples yes. It's easy to see why. Durek will probably find some of his powerfully magic folklorist ancestors up there.

I suspect they're waiting for over a year from Ari's death. Even though they were divorced for a couple of years. They might have been warned that an engagement so soon after would be viewed extra negatively by the public, partly because of her grieving daughters or her parents would only give their official blessing in 2021 or something. I would hope they're actually taking the time to get used to their new normal as a family but nothing in that article implies that.

Since they're openly talking about it and the article goes into sickly detail about how happy they are (post Ari's death) and how they're absolute soulmates and sort of treat the upheavals of his death as relatively minor compared to the coronavirus 6 month being apart I can't imagine there are many other reasons, even though there should be. Even though pre Durek arriving in Norway ML didn't seem to be in a good place personally.

[cathy50]

I think so, too. like Heavs wrote. Maybe next year and the pre-news are a test.
They will need very good security in Norway the right wing extremists are not amused about Verret , maybe they move to the US anyway if her children adapt to it, would be easier for many reasons, time will tell.

[Lady Daly]

Originally Posted by cathy50

I think so, too. like Heavs wrote. Maybe next year and the pre-news are a test.
They will need very good security in Norway the right wing extremists are not amused about Verret , maybe they move to the US anyway if her children adapt to it, would be easier for many reasons, time will tell.

Oh No! Not back to the US!! But why not, they will fit right in with all the other fringe elements seeming to hog the limelight here currently. Truth seems to be anything you say it is these days in the good old USA. The Princess and the Shaman will thrive here. I agree with Heavs, they most likely are waiting until the 1 year anniversary of Ari Behn's death to officially announce their engagement. For now they can practice their magic, dancing along with the Aurora Borealis in Norway.

[Alisa]

Originally Posted by cathy50

I think so, too. like Heavs wrote. Maybe next year and the pre-news are a test.
They will need very good security in Norway the right wing extremists are not amused about Verret , maybe they move to the US anyway if her children adapt to it, would be easier for many reasons, time will tell.

I think the Princess is well aware of this. She herself mentioned the extremely racist people in Norway. I imagined her references were to right wing extremists groups like the NRM. If they stayed in Norway they could receive hate mail and perhaps even death threats.

[Muhler]

Due to their high profile and the fact that Märtha Louise is a member of the NRF, they will and probably already are receiving threats.
I'm not sure how strong the extreme-right is in Norway and whether it must be considered a reason for serious concerns.

Breivik was after all a one off in Norwegian context. I think he more in common with other European extreme-right groups that Norwegian groups.

It's not the biggest concern in my mind.

I believe they will settle in USA.
The market in Norway is simply too small and too hostile. I also believe ML can utilize her royal status to attract clients much better in USA. In Norway it would IMO more be a hindrance. There is simply much more money to earn in USA.
And I also believe both ML and Durek will/do find Norway too provincial, for a lack of better word, in regards to their lifestyle and their mindset.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Alisa

I think the Princess is well aware of this. She herself mentioned the extremely racist people in Norway. I imagined her references were to right wing extremists groups like the NRM. If they stayed in Norway they could receive hate mail and perhaps even death threats.

and she doesn't realise that theres racism in the US too? And pretty much everywhere.....?

[Heavs]

Originally Posted by Alisa

I think the Princess is well aware of this. She herself mentioned the extremely racist people in Norway. I imagined her references were to right wing extremists groups like the NRM. If they stayed in Norway they could receive hate mail and perhaps even death threats.

If one is looking for a life as free as possible from racial tension and violence I'm not sure the US is the place either at the moment. Especially as they seem to want a public profile and the internet makes threats global.

I think they might well settle in LA and probably couch it in terms of racist Norway which doesn't understand or deserve their magic. More chance to build their "Princess and the Shaman" brand along with Durek's allegedly big celebrity client base and a lot of people willing to spend a fortune on rubbish that doesn't work and stuff that is extremely dangerous in the Paltrow GOOP mould.

Also much farther away from any oversight from her parents and the court telling her she can't use her title to advertise her business dodgy ventures. I hope she doesn't actually leave Norway full time though, she and her daughters could probably do with a friendship group and support system that has nothing to do with Durek.

[Alisa]

Princess Märtha Louise is very much aware that Durek can get pulled over in LA or any part of the country and get shot and killed simply for driving while black.
However, I doubt anyone is sending them death threats in the USA

Originally Posted by Denville

and she doesn't realise that theres racism in the US too? And pretty much everywhere.....?

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Alisa

Princess Märtha Louise is very much aware that Durek can get pulled over in LA or any part of the country and get shot and killed simply for driving while black.
However, I doubt anyone is sending them death threats in the USA

I'm not sure what you mean. Is there a difference between being shot and getting death threats? Might he not get death threats in the US as well? If its such a bad place why does he live there?

[Alisa]

In the US, Durek is just a personality trying to make it and be successful in Hollywood/LA. He hasn't made it yet and I am doubtful he will. He isn't a high profile celebrity- or a household name. Therefore it is highly unlikely that he would be receiving death threats.

In Norway, the circle is small. He is more known in Norway than he is the USA so it would come as no surprise that he does receive death threats from far right extremists.

[acdc1]

Originally Posted by Muhler

Due to their high profile and the fact that Märtha Louise is a member of the NRF, they will and probably already are receiving threats.
I'm not sure how strong the extreme-right is in Norway and whether it must be considered a reason for serious concerns.

Breivik was after all a one off in Norwegian context. I think he more in common with other European extreme-right groups that Norwegian groups.

It's not the biggest concern in my mind.

I believe they will settle in USA.
The market in Norway is simply too small and too hostile. I also believe ML can utilize her royal status to attract clients much better in USA. In Norway it would IMO more be a hindrance. There is simply much more money to earn in USA.
And I also believe both ML and Durek will/do find Norway too provincial, for a lack of better word, in regards to their lifestyle and their mindset.

Wonder if they’ll become buddy-buddy with Harry and Meghan if they move to LA? They all seem attracted to the celebrity jet-set lifestyle.

Do you think that ML will wait until her daughters are out of school to move?

[Prinsara]

Originally Posted by Alisa

In the US, Durek is just a personality trying to make it and be successful in Hollywood/LA. He hasn't made it yet and I am doubtful he will. He isn't a high profile celebrity- or a household name. Therefore it is highly unlikely that he would be receiving death threats.

In Norway, the circle is small. He is more known in Norway than he is the USA so it would come as no surprise that he does receive death threats from far right extremists.

In the US he only has to deal with the usual amount of racism and potential trouble with law enforcement any black man does. :/ Nothing to do with his career or who he chooses to date.

In Norway I would venture that the bigger threat from the smaller community is not extreme racists, but garden-variety Norwegians simply angry their princess has taken up with a shyster. Not sure whether any would be angry and disturbed enough to resort to violence, but that's why royalty have security.

It's very clear that it's the "angry garden-variety hostile" response that's dismayed Verrett and ML so much.

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by acdc1

Wonder if they’ll become buddy-buddy with Harry and Meghan if they move to LA? They all seem attracted to the celebrity jet-set lifestyle.

Do you think that ML will wait until her daughters are out of school to move?

IMO no.
They will move to USA and get on with business as soon as possible and while they may still have an air of novelty about them, after their marriage. That I believe will be as high-profile as it is at all possible for ML and Durek to arrange.
So my prediction says: the marriage will take place next year, about the time there is herd immunity from Corona due to extensive vaccinations. Late summer 2021?


ADDED: I don't think Harry and ML have anything at all in common. Neither pre or post Meghan

Originally Posted by Prinsara

In the US he only has to deal with the usual amount of racism and potential trouble with law enforcement any black man does. :/ Nothing to do with his career or who he chooses to date.

In Norway I would venture that the bigger threat from the smaller community is not extreme racists, but garden-variety Norwegians simply angry their princess has taken up with a shyster. Not sure whether any would be angry and disturbed enough to resort to violence, but that's why royalty have security.

It's very clear that it's the "angry garden-variety hostile" response that's dismayed Verrett and ML so much.

Angry garden-variety hostile. - I learned a new expression.
Here it's called Ligusterfascisme = privet fascism.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Alisa

In the US, Durek is just a personality trying to make it and be successful in Hollywood/LA. He hasn't made it yet and I am doubtful he will. He isn't a high profile celebrity- or a household name. Therefore it is highly unlikely that he would be receiving death threats.

In Norway, the circle is small. He is more known in Norway than he is the USA so it would come as no surprise that he does receive death threats from far right extremists.

But according to you he could be shot in the US. So i wouldn't say that that is much better than "death threats in Norway" where he would be protected because of his connection with Martha Louise. In fact I'd say it is somewhat worse to have a good chance to be shot, than to get cranks sending death threats..... which happens to many royals.. - which is why they have security....

[Prinsara]

Originally Posted by Muhler

Angry garden-variety hostile. - I learned a new expression.
Here it's called Ligusterfascisme = privet fascism.

Oh, good, because I just made it up. But I'm not really talking about fascism, unless you are referring to whatever happens when you break Jante. And I don't mean that ML is breaking out of the herd as she likes to think, but simply that Norway is a small country with a lot of support for the monarchy and a lot of justifiably skeptical and thus annoyed people. Not the best combination for the pair.

As for the other end of the discussion, it's an interesting academic debate as to whether Verrett is in more danger as an ordinary person of color in a place with as much gun violence as the US, or by having attached himself to a princess and being very disliked in a small place. I don't know, but I do agree that unless he publicly repents, their lives would probably be easier as small fish in the big pond, not big fish in the small.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Prinsara

Oh, good, because I just made it up. But I'm not really talking about fascism, unless you are referring to whatever happens when you break Jante. And I don't mean that ML is breaking out of the herd as she likes to think, but simply that Norway is a small country with a lot of support for the monarchy and a lot of justifiably skeptical and thus annoyed people. Not the best combination for the pair.

As for the other end of the discussion, it's an interesting academic debate as to whether Verrett is in more danger as an ordinary person of color in a place with as much gun violence as the US, or by having attached himself to a princess and being very disliked in a small place. I don't know, but I do agree that unless he publicly repents, their lives would probably be easier as small fish in the big pond, not big fish in the small.

my point was, that Martha was saying that he would get death threats in Norway and that she hadn't realised how racists' Norway was etc etc, but she is presumably thinking of settling in the US, which has racist murders.. just like... well anywhere.