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09-20-2019, 07:29 PM
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We'll never really know, most likely, because we really don't know either Martha Louise or Durek Varrett and our chances are quite slim of meeting them unless.... you were to pay out the green dollars and go to one of their seminars.
They may be a genuinely happy couple and then again it may be a flash in the pan. We'll just have to see what develops and reported to the general public.
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09-23-2019, 10:53 AM
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Congratulations to Märtha Louise on her birthday from her Shaman
https://www.instagram.com/p/B2t5rUmgk44/
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09-23-2019, 10:58 AM
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Imperial Majesty
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Beautiful photo!
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09-26-2019, 01:58 PM
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it says: Happy Birthday to my baby @princessmarthalouise @iam_marthalouise who is my goddess, my teacher and my best friend. Such a loving reflection of divine grace and beauty. Your heart is a blessing to behold, as are the words and wisdom you carry. I'm a better man for it. As are so many people who get to be in your presence. We all have been blessed by God on the day you were born. Thank you to your mother Queen Sonja and your father King Harald for bringing you into this world. I'm grateful everyday for you my dear sweet love. Forever yours SD
The name dropping continues....
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09-26-2019, 03:07 PM
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And a bit over the top, eh?
A cultural thing perhaps? In a Scandinavian context such a declaration of love would usually have the opposite effect. It comes across as very theatrical and insincere.
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09-26-2019, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Muhler
And a bit over the top, eh?
A cultural thing perhaps? In a Scandinavian context such a declaration of love would usually have the opposite effect. It comes across as very theatrical and insincere.
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This Scandinavian is rolling his eyes so hard that he's got a headache
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09-26-2019, 03:17 PM
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09-26-2019, 03:30 PM
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Not only the Scandinavian....
*Dutch rolling her eyes too*
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This Scandinavian is rolling his eyes so hard that he's got a headache
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09-26-2019, 04:12 PM
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Ick. Or do I mean "urk"?
I am trying hard to think of a culture where this kind of fulsome, over the top, gushing public avowal would be the norm, and I'm drawing a blank. I don't think we can blame this on a cultural difference. It's just....him.
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09-26-2019, 05:48 PM
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Not only the Scandinavian....
*Dutch rolling her eyes too*
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*Brit also rolls her eyes*
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09-28-2019, 10:41 AM
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Ick. Or do I mean "urk"?
I am trying hard to think of a culture where this kind of fulsome, over the top, gushing public avowal would be the norm, and I'm drawing a blank. I don't think we can blame this on a cultural difference. It's just....him.
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Erm...it is actually a very American thing to do.
It's a bit too saccharine for my taste though .
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09-28-2019, 01:15 PM
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Erm...it is actually a very American thing to do.
It's a bit too saccharine for my taste though .
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That's what I thought and find interesting.
In what parts of American or what segments of America are these more flowery declarations of love most common? (Not on this level perhaps, but flowery.)
I ask from a genuine interest in other cultures.
Like I mentioned. In Scandinavian culture, such flowery declarations of love is said in jest - in the hope of making the girl laugh and eventually score her... 
Or as a part of playing between couples - with pretty much the same overall goal as in the example above... 
Or in connection with romantic events, like wedding speeches.
But apart from that sugary declarations of love are pretty rare among Scandinavians.
And a stranger or a new acquaintance/partner using that will usually have a negative result. I.e. he/she is coming across as insincere. Even very insincere.
On the other hand a Scandinavian will likely be considered very unromantic. With considerable justification, I might add!
On of my favorite and true stories about a proposal took place quite a few years ago. The man (he wasn't the most talkative in the world) and his girlfriend went for a walk along the beach. She was talking away as usual, when he suddenly said: "Oh well, we might just as well get married." And walked on. His girlfriend just stood there, with her jaw between her knees. 
And that was that proposal. - They ended up being married for life and I doubt he has told his wife that he loves her more than three or four times in their entire marriage.
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09-28-2019, 02:11 PM
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I completely disagree that this is a very American thing to do, in the public sense. Tender avowals of love, yes; this kind of showy, over the top thing? Not that I can remember. I'd love to know where this is considered commonplace.
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09-28-2019, 02:11 PM
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On of my favorite and true stories about a proposal took place quite a few years ago. The man (he wasn't the most talkative in the world) and his girlfriend went for a walk along the beach. She was talking away as usual, when he suddenly said: "Oh well, we might just as well get married." And walked on. His girlfriend just stood there, with her jaw between her knees.
And that was that proposal. - They ended up being married for life and I doubt he has told his wife that he loves her more than three or four times in their entire marriage. |
For some reason I am thinking this is autobiografical or at least someone within you family.
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09-28-2019, 02:50 PM
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Princess Martha Louise seems to be in Norway ?
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09-28-2019, 03:10 PM
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For some reason I am thinking this is autobiografical or at least someone within you family.
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It isn't in fact. But from my part of DK.
My own attempt at a romantic proposal ended up with Mrs. Muhler giggling.  
Had I wooed her like the good Shaman does Märtha-Louise, she would surely have dumped me. Fast! 
That doesn't mean we Scandinavians can't be romantic though:
Ligesom solen, vil jeg gerne,
give dig kys på hår og mund,
Du mit lys, min smukke stjerne,
jeg er din fra denne stund.
Alas, I don't know how to translate that one properly.  
But it works...
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09-28-2019, 04:07 PM
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I completely disagree that this is a very American thing to do, in the public sense. Tender avowals of love, yes; this kind of showy, over the top thing? Not that I can remember. I'd love to know where this is considered commonplace.
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This is indeed extremely over the top; but to Europeans Americans can be quite 'expressive' in their enthusiasm. When my now sister-in-law visited us in the States she was very surprised by the in her eyes extreme happiness that some of my American friends espoused upon meeting her. So, yes, I would agree it's at least partial an American thing - but the Shaman might be taking it to the next level.
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09-28-2019, 04:29 PM
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Us Brits are famed around the world for being reserved and private; so to us this would be a rather "American" way of declaring one's love to their partner. Generally we've often found our cousins across the pond to be a lot more extroverted and open than us.
The name dropping, however, is the Shaman's personal technique!
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09-28-2019, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Muhler
That's what I thought and find interesting.
In what parts of American or what segments of America are these more flowery declarations of love most common? (Not on this level perhaps, but flowery.)
I ask from a genuine interest in other cultures.
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I know it is not typical of all Americans. I do know some who are very public with their over the top declarations of love, etc to/about their significant other. Most of those people seem to be trying to prove something about their relationship to the world.
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09-28-2019, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Muhler
It isn't in fact. But from my part of DK.
My own attempt at a romantic proposal ended up with Mrs. Muhler giggling.
Had I wooed her like the good Shaman does Märtha-Louise, she would surely have dumped me. Fast! 
That doesn't mean we Scandinavians can't be romantic though:
Ligesom solen, vil jeg gerne,
give dig kys på hår og mund,
Du mit lys, min smukke stjerne,
jeg er din fra denne stund.
Alas, I don't know how to translate that one properly.
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Hmmm. A challenge.
Without google translate:
.... .... , want you much
Give you kisses on hair and mouth
You with ......, my pretty star
.... ..... you forever.
How far off am I?
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