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08-06-2016, 01:16 AM
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Sad news. Wishing both of them and their daughters the best in their new lives.
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08-06-2016, 01:29 AM
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Sad and shocking news. I wish them and their daughters all the best and I hope that they will remain friends like Joachim and Alexandra.
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08-06-2016, 03:37 AM
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08-06-2016, 05:22 AM
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Well, there have been posters claiming that royals marrying commoners would result in better and endurable marriages since it are choices of the heart and nothing because of tradition or rules. Well, in the meantime we can throw such claims on more endurable marriages to the dustbin. From the first pictures on I knew the coupling of Princess Märtha Louise to Mr Behn would not last and my gut feel has proven me right. I have a similar gut feel about three royal couples. Time will learn.
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08-06-2016, 05:39 AM
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Ah yes, we hadn't heard your "marriages to commoners" topic for a while, thanks for working it into another thread 《sarcasm intended》
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08-06-2016, 05:55 AM
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Agree 100 % and you are both from the Netherlands.
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08-06-2016, 06:53 AM
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Very surprised by this news as these two always seemed so happy and together (both a bit 'free living' in their own way) but as others say who knows what goes on behind closed doors. I hope they handle this well (As their statement seems to show they will).
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08-06-2016, 08:49 AM
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I know nothing about the couple. The fact that those who do here are all shocked and surprised - in the main - suggests any marriage issues have been handled very much privately and behind closed doors (and hopefully away from their children) so well done there!
It's never good news when a separation or divorce is announced - but this one appears to have been handled with thought and respect to all.
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08-06-2016, 09:29 AM
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I am not surprised at all, I am surprised that I t lasted as long as it did. I do remember a lot of publicity about his books, and somehow disclosure about their finances which revealed his low income. He also,had a lot of very forth right opinions which he aired. All this made me think it wouldn't last but fourteen years is a long time.
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08-06-2016, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Lee-Z
Ah yes, we hadn't heard your "marriages to commoners" topic for a while, thanks for working it into another thread 《sarcasm intended》

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It is not "working into another thread" or are you suggesting Princess Märtha Louise is no royal and her soon ex-husnand is no commoner? Just a factual conclusion. No sarcasm intended.
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08-06-2016, 10:18 AM
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It is not "working into another thread" or are you suggesting Princess Märtha Louise is no royal and her soon ex-husnand is no commoner? Just a factual conclusion. No sarcasm intended.
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It is working it into another thread. It's predictable, predictable and predictable.
A divorce is not contingent on people in the marriage being commoners or not. Whether or not people are both high-born or not, religious or not, it is a particular point of view to rather support married couples living estranged or separated, but married on paper, instead of being allowed to divorce and move on with their lives if their relation no longer works.
The Princess and Ari Behn have always been an interesting match, but they clearly went with their hearts and probably gave it their best. A divorce is always sad, but it has no dynastic consequences, and if there are any consequences as a result of it, it could be that the Princess' standing with people is raised from sympathy following this sad end of a relationship I think most Norwegians thought would actually last.
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08-06-2016, 01:17 PM
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I don't buy into the idea that nobility and commoners can't have a successfull marriage. And of course, if another marriage fails, it will be one between a royal and a commoner, because basically every younger european royal is married to a commoner right now.
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08-06-2016, 01:49 PM
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And about King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia (who are both born royals) there are rumour that their marriage has turned into a fiction.
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08-06-2016, 02:15 PM
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King Juan Carlos and queen Sophia are living separated
King Alphonso XIII and queen Victoria of Spain , the King lived at Rome and the queen at Suisse
former king of Italia Umberto of italia lived in Cascais and his former wife Marie José lived at Megeve
Charles of Wales and diana of Wales ( Diana was a lady, daughter of a comte , ) they divoeced
A lot of german persons of noble families divorcess, they are married between noble but their wedding failed like the commoner persons
and so many other noble persons in france, England or elsewhere and it is not a title which avoids a divorce
A Wedding is not only an affaire of love but also an affaire of affection , of supporting each other in all the cases happiness or sadness and a lot of chance
My wedding lasted 40 years , it ended with the death of my husband but I have a lot of freinds who divorced .
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08-06-2016, 02:26 PM
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King Harald and Sonja- 48th anniversary this year
Margrethe and Henri- 49 years of marriage
Silvia and CG- 40 years of marriage
Henri and MT- 35 years of marriage
Bea and Claus- 36 years, ended by his death
Akihito and Michiko- 57 years
All monarchs who married commoners. Plenty of younger children examples.
It is more a sign of times. Diana shocked royal circles because she didn't turn a blind eye to the cheating of her husband. Many of the older and certainly royal/royal marriages remain because that is just what you did.
Look at
Albert and Paola
JC and Sofia
Caroline and EA
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08-06-2016, 02:44 PM
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Could I just ask.. the original link of this thread is in norwegian:
kongehuset.no - Går fra hverandre
I tried it in Google translate, and got a relatively good idea of the story, but the part about where Ari Behn is going to live is "Ari Behn will settle in children's Neighborhood" or "Children's community" (depending on which translator i try  )
Just to be sure: does it mean to say that he will live near his wife and children (but move out of their current house because Märtha-Louise and the children will live there)? I could imagine it does, but am not trusting online translators too much
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08-06-2016, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee-Z
Could I just ask.. the original link of this thread is in norwegian:
kongehuset.no - Går fra hverandre
I tried it in Google translate, and got a relatively good idea of the story, but the part about where Ari Behn is going to live is "Ari Behn will settle in children's Neighborhood" or "Children's community" (depending on which translator i try  )
Just to be sure: does it mean to say that he will live near his wife and children (but move out of their current house because Märtha-Louise and the children will live there)? I could imagine it does, but am not trusting online translators too much 
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Yeah, sounds like he's looking for a place to live in the childrens vicinity
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08-06-2016, 04:32 PM
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Thanks, that does make sense, and hopefully the children can keep a good relationship wiyh both parents...
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08-06-2016, 04:46 PM
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surprising news indeed. martha louise and ari seemed like a strong couple. i was always skeptical about them (they both seem very 'free souls'), specially at the start, but they looked to me now like an item for life.
martha louise's press release is very intimate and heart felt. i am surprised to see this, as usually royal divorces are short and concise and we usually don't get to hear any thoughts about the royal in question.
interesting quote by ari in the article above: 'Ari Behn said earlier that he and Martha Louise has an open relationship based on trust.
- There is an openness and respect in our relationship. We are allowed to flirt with others, in that respect, we are very free, he told newspaper VG.'
Sexskandalen som chockar norska hovet | Stoppa Pressarna – Kungligheter – Kungafamiljen – Svensk Damtidning – Prinsessan Madeleine – Kronprinsessan Victoria
indeed, some pictures of him and a blogger with some intimate photos such as this one could only confirm their 'open relationship'.
was their last official outing together during the celebrations for King Carl Gustaf of Sweden's 70th Birthday, on April 30 2016?
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Hi, no. The last official outing they had together was the grand tour the Royal family made i june. To celebrate the 25th anniversary of King Haralds reign. Ari convieniently left before family photoshop were tåken, it was Said at the time that he had a private work apointment.But it makes one wonder... I was a bit surprised when the News hit yesterday.I somewhat expected it, but still a bit surprised. When they moved back from London last spring, I thought for sure they were splitting, but then everthing went back to business as usual.. but he has made some strange statesments
..last fall he Said he drank everyday and that he was unhappy..
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08-06-2016, 04:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Countessmeout
It is more a sign of times. Diana shocked royal circles because she didn't turn a blind eye to the cheating of her husband. Many of the older and certainly royal/royal marriages remain because that is just what you did.
Look at
Albert and Paola
JC and Sofia
Caroline and EA
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Or Bill and Hillary Clinton (not exactly "royalty", but close if they can pull off staying up to 16 years in the White House).
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