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09-15-2005, 10:20 AM
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Martha-Louise Affair
Does anyone know of the affair Martha Louise had with a married man prior to her marraige? I read about this sometime ago I think in Royalty Magazine. What were the details surrounding the situation? I understand she was given diplomatic immunity at one point, can anybody confirm if this is true?
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09-15-2005, 03:19 PM
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As far as I remember (it was quite a long time ago), she was named "the other woman" in a divorce case in England when she was living there. ( http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...01/ai_n8755601) But King Harald stepped in and her diplomatic immunity took effect before she appeared in court.
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09-15-2005, 11:40 PM
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Wow...I had never heard this before.
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09-16-2005, 12:17 AM
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It doesn't seem fair that she did not have to appear in court. I believe King Edward VII had to appear in court for something similar years and years ago.
If she was guilty of being the other woman I wonder if she ever thinks of it now that she has her own family to worry about. As far as I know this married couple ended up splitting up because of the whole situation but then I also know that things are never as they seem.
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09-16-2005, 03:11 AM
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Why would she have to go to court? She didn't commit a crime.
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09-16-2005, 03:50 AM
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this is all news to me , what a dark horse
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09-16-2005, 04:10 AM
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Why would she have to go to court? She didn't commit a crime.
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She was cited to go to court as she was named as 'the other woman' in a messy divorce. Martha-Louise testifying was to be proof that the man accused of having an affair which broke up his marriage, actually did.
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09-16-2005, 09:19 AM
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I read that the wife of the man was very angry that Martha-Louise did not have to testify because of her princess status. I guess this would have ruined her whole case.
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09-16-2005, 12:33 PM
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Excuse this that I am going to write, maybe seem to be a bit class, but I think that Marta Luisa should never have concentrated on a married man, she(it) is handsome(pretty) has many claimants, though in things of the love...
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09-16-2005, 12:45 PM
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I think it also should be specified that we don't know whether or not Märtha Louise had an affair with the married man: all we know is that his wife named her a witness in the divorce case, which led to terms as "the other woman".
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09-16-2005, 01:08 PM
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Unless the man's wife was some sort of known trouble-maker, King Harald's actions seem to me to be an abuse of diplomatic immunity.
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09-16-2005, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Elspeth
Unless the man's wife was some sort of known trouble-maker, King Harald's actions seem to me to be an abuse of diplomatic immunity.
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I remember reading the story, but it was a while ago. It seems to me that Märtha Louise couldn't be granted diplomatic immunity and a fugitive's warrant was issued when she left for Norway. I don't remember the exact British terminology. That's the reason she couldn't attend Princess Alexia's wedding.
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09-16-2005, 01:48 PM
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I suspect that if anybody still has back issues of Se & Hør, or other royalty magazines, from around that time, (Märtha Louise studied in England from 1990 to 1992, as far as I can tell from the Royal House's webpage, and it was when she was studying in England, I think... I do seem to recall that it was in the beginning of Harald's reign) we'll find out the exact wording.
Didn't Alexia get married in 1999? It seems to be an awfully long time for an warrant to be standing without sorting it out.
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09-16-2005, 07:58 PM
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I think that at this time and age, everyone should have the same status when it comes to the law. Whether or not she had an affair is not the important thing (princess or not she can do with her life what she wants--even though I don't approve) what gets me is that royals can basically do whatever they want and then get away with it. I think Maxima had a car accident once, before she had royal immunity, and was "very upset" when she had to go to court--even though she caused the accident. Had she had royal immunity, which she acquired after her marriage, then she would not have had to go to court.
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09-16-2005, 09:30 PM
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We have all made mistakes in our lives that we are not happy what choice's we made. It's Called Learning from our Mistakes! We Can Forgive and Forget, and hindsight is Always 20/20!!!
I do Not have any problems with either Princess's at all in Norge!! Not only are they photographed a lot and their privacy is Always invaded. They all Need a little Respect in their difficult rolls!!
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09-17-2005, 02:08 AM
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It seems to me that Märtha Louise couldn't be granted diplomatic immunity and a fugitive's warrant was issued when she left for Norway.
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A fugitives warrant? I still don't understand how that could be. Divorce cases are different to criminal cases in England and anyway, in the eyes of the law, it was the man who she was supposed to have the affair with that actually commited adultery. Not ML.
BTW, welcome to the board lil Princess.
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09-22-2005, 09:04 AM
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It doesn't seem like there's very much concrete information out there regarding this incident. I don't think that's a coincidence. I think King Harold did a very good job in protecting his daughters name. I'm sure he placed gag orders on everyone he could to save his daughters image. If this is true I think its very unfair, especially for the family that had the distress in thier lives.
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09-22-2005, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by lashinka2002
I read that the wife of the man was very angry that Martha-Louise did not have to testify because of her princess status. I guess this would have ruined her whole case.
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It may not have. Adultery cases rarely go to court, at least here in the United States. The threat of an adultery case though can be enough to make the other side back down from some of their demands. I'm sure even without Marthe-Louise's testimony, the judge was able to see what was going on in the marriage and make the appropriate decision.
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09-30-2006, 06:12 PM
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... Marta Luisa should never have concentrated on a married man, she(it) is handsome(pretty) has many claimants, though in things of the love...
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I hope you aren't a hypocrite.
From the last part of your sentence, I know you aren't .... and that is exactly what happened. Martha Luise fell in love with a married man. He was also into the horse scene, like ML is.
ML was "named" because wify-dear caught hubby-dear at ir, or near it.
All the same, I think it took ML a long time, a very long time to get over the hurt of this relationship. I like to think that her affair with Ari (now her current husband) happened after she got over her hurt and got on with her life.
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09-30-2006, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Roxsteve
I think that at this time and age, everyone should have the same status when it comes to the law. Whether or not she had an affair is not the important thing (princess or not she can do with her life what she wants--even though I don't approve) what gets me is that royals can basically do whatever they want and then get away with it. I think Maxima had a car accident once, before she had royal immunity, and was "very upset" when she had to go to court--even though she caused the accident. Had she had royal immunity, which she acquired after her marriage, then she would not have had to go to court.
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maxima in fact did not cause the accident. The other driver was driving the wrong way on a one way street, and Maxima was coming out of the drive way. It might have been careless to not have looked both ways, but she did not cause the accident.
As for Martha Louise, we do not know if she had the affair, and if she did, we do not know if she knew the man was married.
I think that the royal immunity is the proper thing for some one of her status, otherwise you might have people naming royalty in suits, papers, accusing them of crimes,etc just for the notoriety that it would being in the case.
It is a sad but true fact of life that people want their 15 minuts of fame, no matter if it comes at the expense of someone else's feeelings or life.
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