Death & Funeral of Ari Behn: December 25, 2019/January 3, 2020

[Countessmeout]

Originally Posted by tommy100

Durek posting that he is making no comment, without realising that is a comment seems to sum him up IMO.

Anyway, it was a truly heart warming yet wonderfully touching service.

He knows it's a comment.....he said the only comment I will make is that his heart goes out to them.

He has likely been pestered by medusa and on Instagram to make a statement. And so he said this is what you are getting, that's it, now leave it alone.

I don't see anything wrong with how he has handled any of it.

[Tatiana Maria]

If the link does not work for anyone, the comment reads: "Out of deep respect for Märtha and Ari's children, I will not comment on the passing of their father, not now or later, other than to say I am so incredibly sad for their loss".

[Lady Daly]

After reading through this thread and having viewed Ari Behn's funeral service I'm left thinking if the "Shaman" had not entered Martha Louise's life would Ari still be alive. I'm creeped out by the guy. I hope Martha Louise focuses on her family and lets this creep permanently fade away.

[Sister Morphine]

Originally Posted by Lady Daly

After reading through this thread and having viewed Ari Behn's funeral service I'm left thinking if the "Shaman" had not entered Martha Louise's life would Ari still be alive. I'm creeped out by the guy. I hope Martha Louise focuses on her family and lets this creep permanently fade away.

As much as I think the "shaman" is a charlatan and a fraud, blaming him for Ari's suicide isn't right, IMO. According to everything that's come out in the wake of his death, it seems like it was his divorce from M-L that triggered his final battle with depression, not her new relationship. Whether she moved on to be with someone else or was still single, he would have gone through what he did. I'm sure it wasn't easy to see her move on, especially since it sounds like he still loved her, but she's not to blame for this, and neither is her boytoy. There's no one to blame.

Depression is an insidious disease that corrupts the mind. In the wake of suicide, whether it's someone we know or someone we know of, like Ari Behn or Robin Williams, it's easy to try and find someone or something to point to as the reason it happened, but it doesn't work like that.

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by Sister Morphine

As much as I think the "shaman" is a charlatan and a fraud, blaming him for Ari's suicide isn't right, IMO. According to everything that's come out in the wake of his death, it seems like it was his divorce from M-L that triggered his final battle with depression, not her new relationship. Whether she moved on to be with someone else or was still single, he would have gone through what he did. I'm sure it wasn't easy to see her move on, especially since it sounds like he still loved her, but she's not to blame for this, and neither is her boytoy.

And Ari had a girlfriend of some time as well, so it is not as if he hadn’t moved on at some level.

[rominet09]

I think he had the good reaction there.

[altagrace]

Originally Posted by Lady Daly

After reading through this thread and having viewed Ari Behn's funeral service I'm left thinking if the "Shaman" had not entered Martha Louise's life would Ari still be alive. I'm creeped out by the guy. I hope Martha Louise focuses on her family and lets this creep permanently fade away.

I am not a fan of the shaman but I believe this comment is out of line.

[Lady Daly]

Ari Behn's history of depression and the breakup of his marriage were certainly contributing factors in his suicide. I believe I had read Ari was planning to spend Christmas with ML and his children along with the Royal Family. Perhaps having to deal with the shaman was the final tipping point. Certainly we can't know.

[Tatiana Maria]

Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile

And Ari had a girlfriend of some time as well, so it is not as if he hadn’t moved on at some level.

Yes, and he was the first out of the two to "move on" with a new partner, as his relationship with Ebba Rysst Heilmann was confirmed before the divorce was finalized in 2017.

http://www.vg.no/rampelys/ari-behn/s...te/a/24082931/

[Osipi]

We can sit here and come up with alternative scenarios that could have made a difference but the fact remains that we will never know. Its not prudent to place blame on someone because of a scenario that could have been.

I thought Mr. Verrett's statement was kind and considerate of the family and what any one of us would have said if pressured to make some kind of statement. Those that were looking for a "shamanic" spiel in this situation were left sorely disappointed.

[Sister Morphine]

Originally Posted by Lady Daly

Ari Behn's history of depression and the breakup of his marriage were certainly contributing factors in his suicide. I believe I had read Ari was planning to spend Christmas with ML and his children along with the Royal Family. Perhaps having to deal with the shaman was the final tipping point. Certainly, we can't know.

If we "can't know," then it's highly irresponsible to speculate that M-L's new boyfriend is the reason Ari took his own life. That's a heavy burden to place on someone's shoulders, whether you like them or you don't. Ari's suicide is no one's fault. It happened, and it was awful and tragic, but it was ultimately a blameless act.

[Moonmaiden23]

Ari had found a lovely and devoted new girlfriend, but i can believe that he might have still been in love with his ex wife and in pain about their divorce, for which he apparently took most of the responsibility.

Both had moved on, but it had to have been painful to hear and read her rhapsodizing on social media about her "twin flame, eternal love, man who taught her what it means to truly love" etc...and of course hear about their transcendent physical intimacy together.

He might have been remembering their courtship and marriage and how giddy in love and happy they were...and how he had "ruined" it all.

How can that not have been devastating for a damaged, sensitive man like Ari?

BUT...i need to make it clear that the death of Ari Behn can not be laid at the feet of Durek Verrett or ML. Holidays are fraught with danger for depressed people and Christmas is the worst of all. The. WORST.

A healthy man in his right mind would have taken stock of all he had to make him happy...adoring daughters, loving partner, devoted and admiring friends.

The fact that her former husband saw none of that and allowed his illness to make a terrible, irreversible decision for him is not something anyone can blame on ML...or Durek.

[Lady Daly]

Sincere apologies if it appeared I was solely placing blame for Ari's suicide on the shaman. I spent considerable time reading through this thread and also watched the funeral which was very moving. Definitely no one knows why, however it did strike me that Ari had planned on Christmas with the family. There were pictures of the shaman with ML and the family Christmas morning before news of Ari's suicide. Regardless of my thinking the shaman is creepy, perhaps Ari would have been with the family on Christmas if not for the shaman literally in the picture. Again, we will never know, so more of a speculation than my casting any blame.

[Sister Morphine]

Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23

Ari had found a lovely and devoted new girlfriend, but I can believe that he might have still been in love with his ex-wife and in pain about their divorce, for which he apparently took most of the responsibility.

Both had moved on, but it had to have been painful to hear and read her rhapsodizing on social media about her "twin flame, eternal love, man who taught her what it means to truly love" etc...and, of course, hear about their transcendent physical intimacy together.

He might have been remembering their courtship and marriage and how giddy in love and happy they were...and how he had "ruined" it all.

How can that not have been devastating for a damaged, sensitive man like Ari?

BUT...i need to make it clear that the death of Ari Behn can not be laid at the feet of Durek Verrett or ML. Holidays are fraught with danger for depressed people and Christmas is the worst of all. The. WORST.

A healthy man in his right mind would have taken stock of all he had to make him happy...adoring daughters, loving partner, devoted and admiring friends.

The fact that her former husband saw none of that and allowed his illness to make a terrible, irreversible decision for him is not something anyone can blame on ML...or Durek.

I think reading garbage like that would be difficult even for someone who wasn't battling mental health issues. Some things should be kept to one's self, and the fact you're getting it better in bed than you did with a former partner is absolutely one of those things. I don't think she said that to rub his face in it or be cruel, I just think she's a total space cadet and doesn't think before she speaks.

Originally Posted by Lady Daly

Sincere apologies if it appeared I was solely placing blame for Ari's suicide on the shaman. I spent considerable time reading through this thread and also watched the funeral which was very moving. Definitely no one knows why, however, it did strike me that Ari had planned on Christmas with the family. There were pictures of the shaman with ML and the family Christmas morning before news of Ari's suicide. Regardless of my thinking the shaman is creepy, perhaps Ari would have been with the family on Christmas if not for the shaman literally in the picture. Again, we will never know, so more of a speculation than my casting any blame.

Yes, I would imagine it was a difficult pill to swallow, knowing your ex-wife's new boyfriend was going to be hanging around her and your children for the holidays, but from what I understand, Ari knew Durek was going to be there. I don't think it was something dumped him on at the last minute.

[Lady Daly]

Originally Posted by Sister Morphine

I think reading garbage like that would be difficult even for someone who wasn't battling mental health issues. Some things should be kept to one's self, and the fact you're getting it better in bed than you did with a former partner is absolutely one of those things. I don't think she said that to rub his face in it or be cruel, I just think she's a total space cadet and doesn't think before she speaks.

Well said and in agreement with both Sister Morphine and Moonmaiden23.

[leidi]

What a lovely family the NRF is, they are all so close and don't fear showing affection or anything of the sort, I've always thought that Harald is a very good man, very decent and loving, the way he welcomed Marius into the family said it all to me.

Talking about Marius, you could see that he still considered Ari as an "uncle" of sorts, was really affected about the whole thing and didn't hesitate in showing up to say his goodbyes and support his family (at the end of the day those girls are his cousins even if not by blood).

[wartenberg7]

Originally Posted by Archduchess Zelia

In a similar situation, absolutely. Alexandra – and by extension, her family – was a part of QMII's life for over a decade and continues to be so through her sons. Can't speak for HM or CG but I have no doubt that QMII (and the rest of the DRF) would extend the same compassion to all of her daughters-in-law's families in a similarly tragic situation. I mean, this is the woman who continued to work with Alexandra's new father-in-law even after Alexandra remarried. Don't necessarily think she deserves to be lumped in with HM.

Not so sure about that. In your example about Alexandra it would be a husband of one of A´s sisters...

Originally Posted by Biri

I can imagine it the most; they are human beings just like everyone of us, and they also have feelings.

No, they´re not. Biological yes, they are indeed. But the persons I named, which I like a lot, do not always act like "everyone of us" and that´s a fact. That is neither good nor bad - it´s just the way it is.
That is why I was so impressed by the norwegian royal couple because I have never ever (and I watch Royalty since decades, since my childhood) seen a King and a Queen comforting ex-in-law´s-partners!
I just have no picture of it when it comes to some other royal families. It was never a secret that the Queen of the UK for instance had any kind of regular contact to Mark Philip´s parents or sister (not mentioning Mark´s brother-in-law...), the parents of Sophie Wessex or the Spencers (may be with the exception of Dianas father whom HM knew since she was a young woman or the Fellows, because he was her private secretary).

Originally Posted by eya

No comment drom Durek for the death of Ari Behn

https://www.instagram.com/p/B68ipdsgCCD/

Well, spending some time here reading, I´m sure no matter what he would write or say, he just couldn´t do right...
For some he is the Antichrist and will remain to be. Perhaps there is also some racism mixed in it - I don´t know. I personally don´t care about the guy, I do not know him and will never meet him, so who cares? But demonizing another person always says more about the person who demonizes than the one who is claimed to be a dark demon...!

[Amber26]

Originally Posted by wartenberg7

No, they´re not. Biological yes, they are indeed. But the persons I named, which I like a lot, do not always act like "everyone of us" and that´s a fact. That is neither good nor bad - it´s just the way it is.
That is why I was so impressed by the norwegian royal couple because I have never ever (and I watch Royalty since decades, since my childhood) seen a King and a Queen comforting ex-in-law´s-partners!

Than you haven’t looked good, in the Netherlands the husband of prinses Irene is treated the same way by the parents of Irene Queen Juliana and later by Queen Beatrix.
After his dead Carlos Hugo was brought back to The Netherlands and stayed for a few days on palace Noordeinde.

[Archduchess Zelia]

Originally Posted by wartenberg7

Not so sure about that. In your example about Alexandra it would be a husband of one of A´s sisters...

...Yes. And what what makes you assume QMII wouldn't want to show compassion towards her former daughter-in-law's brother-in-law in a similar situation to this?

[Moonmaiden23]

That's true...not to mention that the circumstances in place for a reigning monarch to "comfort an ex-partner's in laws" has not exactly been commonplace among the ruling Houses.

Without taking anything away from Harald and Sonja, their situation has been as unique as it is tragic.