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Old 03-22-2018, 01:08 PM
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Thank you, this is the type of situation that should be avoided in the future. Right now I see the BRF in a transitional stage in terms of titles & roles for younger royals. But if Charles, or William, or whoever, decides a new model will be followed, new Letters Patent should be formulated to avoid confusion, ruffled feathers, or concerns that some grandchildren are being treated unfairly. After all, the current LP in force was issued one hundred years ago and formalized George V's own effort to streamline the monarchy.
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Old 08-07-2018, 03:44 AM
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Something for royal anoraks here, in a press release from Buckingham Palace today, the Earl and Countess of Wessex's daughter was styled as Lady Louise Mountbatten Windsor.
https://twitter.com/MonarchyUK/statu...69482829623297

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Old 08-07-2018, 03:53 AM
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Something for royal anoraks here, in a press release from Buckingham Palace today, the Earl and Countess of Wessex's daughter was styled as Lady Louise Mountbatten Windsor.
https://twitter.com/MonarchyUK/statu...69482829623297

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Old 08-07-2018, 04:15 AM
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Something for royal anoraks here, in a press release from Buckingham Palace today, the Earl and Countess of Wessex's daughter was styled as Lady Louise Mountbatten Windsor.
https://twitter.com/MonarchyUK/statu...69482829623297

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Yet another proof of the fact that Louise does not and will never carry a royal title
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Old 08-07-2018, 06:22 AM
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She is always referred to as Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor by the palace because that is her title.

On the rare occasions her name has appeared in the CC is it always as Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor.
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:49 AM
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Something for royal anoraks here, in a press release from Buckingham Palace today, the Earl and Countess of Wessex's daughter was styled as Lady Louise Mountbatten Windsor.
https://twitter.com/MonarchyUK/statu...69482829623297

I refuse to be called an anorak,
I thought an anorak was a type of raincoat.
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Old 08-07-2018, 10:17 AM
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anorak

(ˈænəˌræk) n1. (Clothing & Fashion) a warm waterproof hip-length jacket usually with a hood, originally worn in polar regions, but now worn for any outdoor activity
2. informal derogatory a socially inept person with a hobby considered by most people to be boring
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Old 08-07-2018, 10:19 AM
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an anorak was a type of raincoat.
'Tis, but [in common parlance] it represents a dullard, presumably because 'minority interest' types like 'trainspotters', are habitually attired in them...
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Old 08-07-2018, 10:20 AM
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I think that Louise used the surname Windsor - informally. But for formal items Mountbatten Windsor. But I see they still haven't decided if it is hyphenated or not?
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Old 08-07-2018, 11:27 AM
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Thanks for the clarifications on the word anorak.

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Old 08-07-2018, 12:02 PM
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I think that Louise used the surname Windsor - informally. But for formal items Mountbatten Windsor. But I see they still haven't decided if it is hyphenated or not?
The legal family name of all male-line descendants of Queen Elizabeth II who are not HRHs is Mountbatten-Windsor. That was decided by Letters Patent issued by the Queen.

Louise, as a granddaughter of a British sovereign in paternal line, should have been an HRH and, accordingly, have no last name, but the Queen and her parents decided otherwise.
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She is always referred to as Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor by the palace because that is her title.

On the rare occasions her name has appeared in the CC is it always as Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor.
A press release from BP on the occasion of her christening says otherwise,
https://www.royal.uk/announcement-ch...louise-windsor

She is referred to as Lady Louise Windsor. No Mountbatten in there. In fact the three press releases on the royal.gov website all list her as Lady Louise Windsor. Including the announcement of the Flower Girls and Page Boys for William and Catherines wedding.

https://www.royal.uk/update-maid-hon...-and-page-boys
https://www.royal.uk/family-photogra...louise-windsor

I can only find her in the CC once in 2016 when they went to Bristol Zoo, she is listed as Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor then.
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She is always referred to as Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor by the palace because that is her title.

On the rare occasions her name has appeared in the CC is it always as Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor.

Might want to tell whoever runs the BP Twitter and Instagram accounts that. Both referred to Louise as “Lady Louise Windsor” over the weekend.
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Maybe they see how much leeway the other Ladies First Name Windsor get in their current life and want to have that for Louise, too. The Mountbatten is such a signal there. I don't now but wonder if the Ladies of the Londonderry-family really use the whole Vane-Tempest-Steward-name for themselves? No wonder Lady Annabel married a guy callede "Goldsmith" then...
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It’s actually not uncommon at all for members of the British nobility to flip flop on the issue of double (or trip or quadruple) barrelled names. Some use all names, some only use one; some hyphenate, some use a space. The Spencer-Churchill Family is a great example of this; some of them use Spencer-Churchill (like the current Duke of Marlborough’s Family), while others just use Churchill (like Winston Churchill), and I believe others have used Spencer Churchill in the past.
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A press release from BP on the occasion of her christening says otherwise,
https://www.royal.uk/announcement-ch...louise-windsor

She is referred to as Lady Louise Windsor. No Mountbatten in there. In fact the three press releases on the royal.gov website all list her as Lady Louise Windsor. Including the announcement of the Flower Girls and Page Boys for William and Catherines wedding.
The formal documents such as the CC uses Mountbatten-Windsor for the wedding https://www.royal.uk/court-circular?...F04%2F2011&id= as did the formal 'order of service' for the wedding https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...e-in-full.html

The royal.gov.uk site uses both formal and informal names e.g. Prince Harry not always Prince Henry but the CC always used Prince Henry and now Duke of Sussex while other parts of the monarch website uses the less formal Prince Harry.

The Queen made the decision that the descendants surnames were Mountbatten-Windsor (the same surname William and Kate used during their French court case where they weren't allowed to use titles but had to use an actual surname).
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Old 08-07-2018, 10:42 PM
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Legally Louise is Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor. She is referred to as Lady Louise Windsor as a shortened form.
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Old 08-08-2018, 01:52 AM
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Yet another proof of the fact that Louise does not and will never carry a royal title
It does not prove that she will NEVER carry a royal tittle. it is just that for the present, her parents and the queen have agreed that she's titled as the daughter of an earl.../.
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It’s actually not uncommon at all for members of the British nobility to flip flop on the issue of double (or trip or quadruple) barrelled names. Some use all names, some only use one; some hyphenate, some use a space. The Spencer-Churchill Family is a great example of this; some of them use Spencer-Churchill (like the current Duke of Marlborough’s Family), while others just use Churchill (like Winston Churchill), and I believe others have used Spencer Churchill in the past.
I seem to remember reading that the late Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother before her marriage called herself "Lady Elizabeth Lyon" instead of the more formal "Bowes-Lyon." The Strathmore family reportedly preferred the short form as they felt that "Bowes" was forced on them in a marriage contract whereas "Lyon" was their ancient surname.
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It does not prove that she will NEVER carry a royal tittle. it is just that for the present, her parents and the queen have agreed that she's titled as the daughter of an earl.../.
Unless the Wales line and York line both end up on the same plane and it goes down, she likely won't carry a royal title in UK. And given how unlikely it is for all those people to be on a plane together, I'd say it's pretty safe Louise won't ever have a royal title. The other alternative is if she marries a foreign prince, but that's also unlikely given the way things have worked out for this generation. It's a decision her parents and grandmother made. And I do think she's better off as a private citizen as a result.
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