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Old 12-09-2016, 04:05 PM
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I'm so over this family. They can't stop reminding us all that they are princess's and how wonderful they are. They do some work for charity we should be so thankful !!
Why does anyone even bother with Fergie ? Is Anne's first husband in the news giving statements etc etc ?
i would take that family instead of those who can't stop whining about how difficult and the worse thing in the world to have a title (spoiler alert it isn't ) .

you think they bother with fergie! princess diana died 20 years ago and they still drag her name in every article that is remotely related to any royals .

there is people who see whatever prince henry and william do isn't bad or stepping on the wrong foot because of their mother and see whatever the york princesses do is wrong and bad because of their mother .

for the first time i can't critic sarah for being proud of her daughters any parents would proud of their children and Brag About Their Kids .

prince harry made a fuss and released a statement because the paparazzi are following the girl he is dating who were a public figure and an actress before she started dating him but sarah is out of line when she is urging the media to stop criticizing her daughters for every single thing they do or say no matter if it is good or not they always find a way to critic them .
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Old 12-09-2016, 04:46 PM
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The thing is you have to draw a line somewhere. We have seen in the United States if you dont deny something it will just fester. Heard of the birther movement and associated frivolous lawsuits as well as pizzagate that has nearly lead to gun violence due to internet rumors about a politician. The current news about the duke of york asking for titles is just a variant on the same old theme of wanting roles for his daughters. Logically does that make any sense due to the fact that they run in titles circles but have never dated anyone with a title. These rumors about what prince Andrew wants for the girls have been around since 2008 I have used google to look. Only this time 8 years later has he given a statement on this subject --- that is 8 whole years since that has started and it had never died. Everyone even assumes its true without knowing anything. Eugenie does she live in Kensington place? Maybe she does or maybe not but everyone assumes its true because some sleazy rag said so. DM readers also repeat the lies in comments that Andrew demanded his daughter be princesses. It takes all of a minute to search why they are princesses but people still repeat the same old lies for no reason. I guess they are poorly educated I dont know. But practice discernment in what you read and where you read it from
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Old 12-09-2016, 04:47 PM
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I'm so over this family. They can't stop reminding us all that they are princess's and how wonderful they are. They do some work for charity we should be so thankful !!
Why does anyone even bother with Fergie ? Is Anne's first husband in the news giving statements etc etc ?
I think what I come away with mostly when reading about Sarah or anything she's saying or doing is that she very much comes across as if, even though she is divorced, she is still very much The Duchess of York. Even on Twitter it seems that she's @SarahTheDuchess.

I get that they're a close family and a united family as far as divorced parents go but sometimes I feel Sarah just cannot let go of her royal status even one little bit and that is what is important to her.
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Old 12-09-2016, 05:36 PM
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I have never heard anyone tell people what a wonderful mother she is more than Sarah. And her daughters are princess's don't forget. Oh and she's still a duchess and don't you forget her and Andrew still love each other.
Also still best buddies with the Queen etc.
Just that little problem of money but there is usually someone to help out.



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Old 12-09-2016, 06:02 PM
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so you would prefer the other scenario " i'm still diana , princess of wales my children are princes and my son is going to be the king but i don't wont my husband to be the king he never loved me he cheated on me with another woman while we were married we now almost hate each other his family never accepted me they are trying to obstacle me while i'm trying to help charities " would that make you and the press consider her the divine angel that they portray diana as ?!
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Old 12-09-2016, 06:06 PM
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I There are parts of that statement that don't even make any sense, it just comes across as a badly written rant. He also loves writing 'the princesses' and 'as gradaughters of the Queen' just incase any of us had forgotten. I dread to think what Charles will make of this. I think he will be livid that his name is being brought up in this statement as I don't think for one second he's been consulted before it's gone out.
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Old 12-09-2016, 06:08 PM
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I think Andrew did the right thing. This has been building for weeks - stories about his daughters from anonymous sources; splits in the BRf etc etc. ALL believed not because we know they are true but because he isn't popular. And the media when they cant attack him directly take it out on his children. That's the truth of it.

There is absolutely no evidence for any of these stories. There is no evidence for the reduction of the BRF - it is interpretation of information and that doesn't mean its true.

We don't se the impact these stories have on the girls - he does. And all I'm seeing is a man defending his daughters.

And don't just look at Andrew - in the past few months William and Harry have also issued statements. BRF have had enough of it and they now have direct access to the public.

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Old 12-09-2016, 06:09 PM
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"Building their careers" as "modern werking Royals". Did BP really authorise this nonsense?

This statement was authorise by BP and therefore The Queen. People knew he was going to say it, and allowed it.
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Old 12-09-2016, 06:17 PM
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This statement was authorise by BP and therefore The Queen. People knew he was going to say it, and allowed it.
Clarence house is a different matter. I totally believe that Charles will not be happy about this. Also what proof can you ever show in regards to any press stories? Things are only ever truly proved or disproved through time. It will be the same with this story. When Charles is King we'll see then if these reports about him and Andrew have been true or not. I'd personally go for the former.
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Old 12-09-2016, 07:14 PM
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I There are parts of that statement that don't even make any sense, it just comes across as a badly written rant. He also loves writing 'the princesses' and 'as gradaughters of the Queen' just incase any of us had forgotten. I dread to think what Charles will make of this. I think he will be livid that his name is being brought up in this statement as I don't think for one second he's been consulted before it's gone out.
Which parts don't make sense? It all makes sense to me.
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Old 12-09-2016, 07:20 PM
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Clarence house is a different matter. I totally believe that Charles will not be happy about this. Also what proof can you ever show in regards to any press stories? Things are only ever truly proved or disproved through time. It will be the same with this story. When Charles is King we'll see then if these reports about him and Andrew have been true or not. I'd personally go for the former.
Why would Charles be unhappy?

People will either think that he knew nothing about it so no problem for him

And if he did know about it then he is confirming there is no breach - what's wrong with that?

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Old 12-09-2016, 07:23 PM
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Clarence house is a different matter. I totally believe that Charles will not be happy about this. Also what proof can you ever show in regards to any press stories? Things are only ever truly proved or disproved through time. It will be the same with this story. When Charles is King we'll see then if these reports about him and Andrew have been true or not. I'd personally go for the former.
Why would you believe Charles over Andrew? Here's an example of how the media is totally capable of making things up: in Canada, someone from a family I know is newly elected to the provincial parliament. A newspaper ran an article about how the family 'attends mass in a chapel in their town.' They aren't Catholic, and their church is no chapel - it's just a normal-sized church! This person then missed a vote in Parliament and said it was because of a family circumstance. The media didn't buy it, and many papers claimed he was just avoiding the vote. I know that the family reason is probably true, because it fit with what I know about them.

We don't know Charles or Andrew personally, so why do we believe what the media tells us without proof? Not just Andrew's interventions, but the idea that Charles wants to slim down the royal family or get rid of the York sisters.
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Old 12-09-2016, 07:24 PM
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Old 12-10-2016, 04:37 PM
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I think what I come away with mostly when reading about Sarah or anything she's saying or doing is that she very much comes across as if, even though she is divorced, she is still very much The Duchess of York. Even on Twitter it seems that she's @SarahTheDuchess.
Would probably be very different if Andrew had remmarried and their would be a new HRH the Duchess of York.
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Old 12-10-2016, 04:49 PM
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Would probably be very different if Andrew had remmarried and their would be a new HRH the Duchess of York.
Somehow, I don't think even a new HRH The Duchess of York would deter Sarah at all. She would still be using the style of a divorced wife of a peer as Sarah, Duchess of York and hell would freeze over before she discontinued using that to her advantage.

What do I know though? BTW: Hell (Michigan) at this moment has a temperature of 25 degrees Fahrenheit so its entirely possible that Hell has frozen over.
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Old 12-10-2016, 05:07 PM
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I wonder what Prince Edward and Princess Anne think of all this. Anne specifically didn't want her children to have titles - which I think suits them fine - and Edward was happy for his children to have lesser titles. And Lady Sarah Chatto is also the granddaughter of a monarch, but there was never any talk of her husband having a title. It does seem to be an issue confined to the Yorks.
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Old 12-10-2016, 05:11 PM
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Somehow, I don't think even a new HRH The Duchess of York would deter Sarah at all. She would still be using the style of a divorced wife of a peer as Sarah, Duchess of York and hell would freeze over before she discontinued using that to her advantage.
I agree it would not stop Sarah from using it. But as there would be another woman with the same style who would perhasp be better knmown or more popular this one would be more associated with the Title and not Sarah.
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Old 12-10-2016, 05:32 PM
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I wonder what Prince Edward and Princess Anne think of all this. Anne specifically didn't want her children to have titles - which I think suits them fine - and Edward was happy for his children to have lesser titles. And Lady Sarah Chatto is also the granddaughter of a monarch, but there was never any talk of her husband having a title. It does seem to be an issue confined to the Yorks.

Personally I don't think a parent should make that decision for his/her children.

If they don't want a title when they come of age, fine; but why not give them a choice?
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Old 12-10-2016, 05:52 PM
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Osipi that gave me needed laugh. Hope it's warming up at your home

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