York Family News and Pictures 2: September 2015

[Curryong]

I think Fergie is probably a kind and generous person but oh, so self-absorbed! How many times have we seen her on TV shows talking endlessly about herself and her psyche and her problems and her past? I just wish the media would get over her and give her and us some peace!

[Meadow]

Sarah is the one courting the press. She did the Oprah show which did not make Sarah look good at all. She is the one posing for the cameras etc. We don't see her for ages so she can be private when she wants too. It's also her who looks for things to promote which include going on tv shows etc. Sarah could step away she just doesn't want too she loves the attention when it suits her and when she can have some sort of finacial gain. I don't think she will ever change in her mind she is way more important then what she actually is.

[Jacknch]

I tend to agree with both the above posts. I do believe Sarah has worked hard for her charities over the years, but at the same time she has worked hard to promote herself - both as a person who was once married to a prince and as a business woman with all her various commercial interests.

I give her credit for trying hard and being a good mother and the fact that she and Andrew are still so close. Nonetheless, she is inconsistent sometimes - she has talked about her self doubts and problems for years and years and then says she's stronger and better now, but after a while it is back to talking about the difficulties times etc.

Beatrice and Eugenie may well have donated her to the world, but what a strange thing to say - and certainly it doesn't apply to the part of the world I live!

[Duke of Marmalade]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ght-years.html

[Duchessmary]

That link is showing an un-related article. Or are my eyes not open all the way yet?

[Lumutqueen]

DOM's link takes you to the whole homepage unfortunately.

[Mermaid1962]

Agreed. She seems to do well for a time and then slips back into the same old pattern of landing in trouble and then trying to redeem herself by engaging in psycho-babble followed by vowing to do better to doing better and then falling back again.

She's currently on an upswing and seems to be doing well. She looks slimmer and is engaged in some good things. I sincerely hope that she has turned a real corner this time and there won't be another crash.

I rather like Sarah and hope that she finds fulfillment.

Originally Posted by Jacknch

I give her credit for trying hard and being a good mother and the fact that she and Andrew are still so close. Nonetheless, she is inconsistent sometimes - she has talked about her self doubts and problems for years and years and then says she's stronger and better now, but after a while it is back to talking about the difficulties times etc.

[Duke of Marmalade]

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen

DOM's link takes you to the whole homepage unfortunately.

Thanks i corrected it!

[MonaLisaSmile]

Originally Posted by Jacknch

I tend to agree with both the above posts. I do believe Sarah has worked hard for her charities over the years, but at the same time she has worked hard to promote herself - both as a person who was once married to a prince and as a business woman with all her various commercial interests.

I give her credit for trying hard and being a good mother and the fact that she and Andrew are still so close. Nonetheless, she is inconsistent sometimes - she has talked about her self doubts and problems for years and years and then says she's stronger and better now, but after a while it is back to talking about the difficulties times etc.

Beatrice and Eugenie may well have donated her to the world, but what a strange thing to say - and certainly it doesn't apply to the part of the world I live!

I do not see Sarah as having worked hard for her charities at all. I wonder if they are more of a cover for her so that she can fly around the world on the charity's expense, attend parties and whatnot.

Recently in the UK news a story broke about a celebrity whom had set up a charity which received millions but less than 10% of the donations were actually used towards those in need.

I have expected a story like this to be reported on the Duchess of York for YEARS....

If you read any of the biographies written about her (w/o her consent) there is more than a few alllusions to this.....

[royal rob]

Originally Posted by MonaLisaSmile

I do not see Sarah as having worked hard for her charities at all. I wonder if they are more of a cover for her so that she can fly around the world on the charity's expense, attend parties and whatnot.

Recently in the UK news a story broke about a celebrity whom had set up a charity which received millions but less than 10% of the donations were actually used towards those in need.

I have expected a story like this to be reported on the Duchess of York for YEARS....

If you read any of the biographies written about her (w/o her consent) there is more than a few alllusions to this.....

I totally agree with you I doubt Sarah does anything without first thinking what's the upside for me. Setting up charities is the latest way to make a living it would seem by the number of celebs charities


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[casualfan]

Sarah named in Panama Papers:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...er-mills-amon/

[Duke of Marmalade]

Princess Beatrice and Eugenie suffer another fashion fail | Daily Mail Online

Princess Eugenie, 26, and sister Beatrice, 27, attended Not Forgotten Association garden party with Prince Andrew

[iceflower]

Here's an additional gallery of the garden party:


** gettyimages/zimbio: Duke of York Attends A Buckingham Palace Garden Party **

[Curryong]

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade

Princess Beatrice and Eugenie suffer another fashion fail | Daily Mail Online

Princess Eugenie, 26, and sister Beatrice, 27, attended Not Forgotten Association garden party with Prince Andrew

Oh dear, I'm afraid it WAS another fashion fail. The trouble is, I think, that the sisters both like unusual patterns and designs but they don't choose outfits that suit their body types. Eugenie in particular could be seen to real advantage as she is a very pretty girl, if only she would consult a stylist. She could still have fun with her clothing but would know more about what suits her and what doesn't.

[Osipi]

OK. This is something I've just come across and something I'd never heard before and I'm wondering just how credible this is. The article claims that HM bought a residence in 1997 for Sarah, Beatrice and Eugenie but according to the article, Sarah turned it down stating it would be too expensive to maintain.

See inside the stunning $6.1 million home the Queen bought for Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie - AOL

According to the Telegraph though, the divorce settlement was to include "£500,000 provided by the Queen for her to buy a new house for her and her children."

Duchess of York's divorce settlement was worth £3 million - Telegraph

Odd. Very Odd.

[Lumutqueen]

I've seen this discussed somewhere recently...

[AdmirerUS]

Originally Posted by Osipi

OK. This is something I've just come across and something I'd never heard before and I'm wondering just how credible this is. The article claims that HM bought a residence in 1997 for Sarah, Beatrice and Eugenie but according to the article, Sarah turned it down stating it would be too expensive to maintain.

See inside the stunning $6.1 million home the Queen bought for Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie - AOL

According to the Telegraph though, the divorce settlement was to include "£500,000 provided by the Queen for her to buy a new house for her and her children."

Duchess of York's divorce settlement was worth £3 million - Telegraph

Odd. Very Odd.

BBC at the time has a very different take on price... BBC News | UK | Duchess's mansion up for grabs
We have no idea what were the issues. Not large enough? Asbestos remediation needed? It is very close to Bagshot. And the timing is interesting as well; March 1998 was when Bagshot was leased for the Earl of Wessex.

[Curryong]

Sarah practising domestic economy! Ye Gods!

I've never read anything about a multi-million dollar property purchased by the Queen for Fergie and her daughters. Anything's possible I suppose, but most writers on the York divorce seem to sing from the same hymn book viz that Fergie wished for the Queen's friendship above all else, didn't ask for much relatively speaking in her divorce settlement (hardly surprising when you consider the scandals surrounding her during the separation,) and that therefore the RF lawyers didn't offer much.

What they did offer seems to have been sectioned off in the divorce settlement into property, trust funds for the Princesses and so on, wise in view of Fergie's spending habits. Therefore, IMHO, the Telegraph's estimate of £500,000 for a new home seems to be nearer to the mark.

Isn't Bagshot leased? I didn't think it was bought outright. Unless you mean that the Wessexes and Sarah didn't get on and therefore she didn't want to live near them?

[AdmirerUS]

Originally Posted by Curryong

Sarah practising domestic economy! Ye Gods!

I've never read anything about a multi-million dollar property purchased by the Queen for Fergie and her daughters. Anything's possible I suppose, but most writers on the York divorce seem to sing from the same hymn book viz that Fergie wished for the Queen's friendship above all else, didn't ask for much relatively speaking in her divorce settlement (hardly surprising when you consider the scandals surrounding her during the separation,) and that therefore the RF lawyers didn't offer much.

What they did offer seems to have been sectioned off in the divorce settlement into property, trust funds for the Princesses and so on, wise in view of Fergie's spending habits. Therefore, IMHO, the Telegraph's estimate of £500,000 for a new home seems to be nearer to the mark.

Isn't Bagshot leased? I didn't think it was bought outright. Unless you mean that the Wessexes and Sarah didn't get on and therefore she didn't want to live near them?

Bagshot is leased from the Crown Estate. Whether they got on or not, there is a difference in the grandeur or Birch Hall and Bagshot. And who knows for sure what was behind Sarah never moving the girls in? I can think of a dozen reasons or more - all speculative.
But I trust the 1998 BBC report of value far more than I trust the recent press.

[sndral]

From the BBC article it seems to me that the property was bought for Sarah and her daughters to live in - I would assume Sarah had a life estate in the property with the property reverting to her daughters upon her death. After this was agreed Sarah decided she didn't want to live there or realized she couldn't afford to live there (remember Sarah had a number of money making schemes set up w/ Johnny Bryan at the time of her seperation/divorce which fell apart resulting in her moving back in w/ Andrew) and the settlement had to be renegotiated - assigning a value to Sarah's life estate and a value to the fee simple which the girls were to inherit. I would assume the £500,000 referenced was the value of Sarah's interest and that the remainder of profit from sale of the property went to the trust for the girls.
So to me it's possible all 3 articles aren't at odds.