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Old 12-25-2017, 10:57 PM
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Well, I think once you're 29 and in her high-visibility position, it would be nice to be introduced to a decent man by someone you trust and has your interests at heart. The last thing she needs is another Paolo or spaceship salesman.
I agree!

Surely her numerous relatives could introduce Beatrice to some eligible men.
Both William and Harry have friends who might be available.
Or Eugenie may have some suitable work colleagues.
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Old 12-26-2017, 02:20 AM
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They both went to what they call "University" in the UK. Eugenie works full time for an auction house, Hauser & Wirth. She had another art-related job before that. She's in a good position. Perhaps at some point she would be able to work for The Royal Collection. She's a smart and able woman. And, is a lovely speaker! From what I hear, very personable and much lovelier in person than in tabloid photos.

The other one is closer to Fergie and may very well suffer from that.
In case you were in any doubt, "University" is the same as College in the US. I would also say that it is impossible to say which of her daughters are closer to Sarah but that has absolutely nothing to do with their education or job prospects unless the employer is a small minded, social climbing bigot who thinks slagging off the Sarah will give them an inside track.

Beatrice is also a smart, able woman, and is a lovely speaker. She is personable and attractive and has used her problem with dyslexia to help others dyslexics to overcome their problem and see it as a challenge instead of a handicap. She also helps their families to understand what the problem is. She is more involved with charity than her sister but that is merely the difference between the calling of their hearts.

Love of family is the first rule of success. You love because you are loved, feel secure because your family have made you feel secure, and give to others because you have it in your heart to share that of which you have in abundance.

Check out Beatrice and Eugenie, they almost always seem happy and smiling while some of their supposed sartorial superiors look like it's an effort to ch smile,
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Old 12-26-2017, 08:11 AM
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Beautifully said. I don't understand the vicious, nasty remarks constantly directed towards these two young women.
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Old 12-26-2017, 09:42 AM
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Beautifully said. I don't understand the vicious, nasty remarks constantly directed towards these two young women.
As one poster said - Fergie! Not even the courtesy of her name, Sarah. Tried in absentia, convicted and sentenced to a life of sly innuendo, brickbats and lie after lie for the crime of being too rambunctious, too OTT and too red headed and naively gullible.

Yet she still has the audacity to show up to events she is inexplicably invited to, wearing all the 'wrong' fashions and smiling and laughing while she does it! Needless to day Beatrice and Eugenie are hopelessly tainted by her sheer presence let alone her genes.
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Old 12-26-2017, 10:08 AM
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I don’t quite understand why anyone would want it to play out any other way. Why would Ferguson be invited? Things work best as they are - with her out of the picture. I’m glad that the two Princesses have such a good relationship with their mother but Fergie has blotted her copy book one too many times to risk being allowed to get close to any other family members again.
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Old 12-26-2017, 02:29 PM
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In case you were in any doubt, "University" is the same as College in the US...,
The York girls received typical English 3 year BA degrees, I believe. Universities in the USA require 4 years to obtain a BA/BS. Many students in the US first obtain an AA/AS degrees at a Jr. college, which takes 2 yr.s, before completing their final 2 years at a US 4 yr. University. I believe the big difference is that fewer lower division general education breadth courses are required by English/Welsh/N. Irish Universities compared to US Universities.
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Old 12-26-2017, 04:37 PM
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The only thing I know about Fergie (not the singer) was that she let some guy suck on her toes while she was still married back in the 80s or 90s. Also, she tried to sell access to her ex-husband and was caught. And Weight Watchers.

I assume she doesn't have any sort of degree or job skills? The idea is so anathema to how I was raised that it is hard to contemplate having privilege and not doing anything useful with it.
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Old 12-26-2017, 04:58 PM
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She wrote a couple books about Budgie the Helicopter (of course not without controversy).

She did have a job prior to Andy IIRC...it's just been so long ago I forget what it was.

People also forget that she had a 'past' .... it was perceived that Andy had more leeway (much as Harry is seen) when it came to picking a bride.




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Old 12-27-2017, 09:20 PM
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She wrote a couple books about Budgie the Helicopter (of course not without controversy).

She did have a job prior to Andy IIRC...it's just been so long ago I forget what it was.

People also forget that she had a 'past' .... it was perceived that Andy had more leeway (much as Harry is seen) when it came to picking a bride.




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Sarah worked in publishing prior to her marriage.
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Old 12-27-2017, 09:55 PM
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She wrote a couple books about Budgie the Helicopter (of course not without controversy).

She did have a job prior to Andy IIRC...it's just been so long ago I forget what it was.

People also forget that she had a 'past' .... it was perceived that Andy had more leeway (much as Harry is seen) when it came to picking a bride.




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She actually wrote a number of books, and had quite a bit of success at that.

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Budgie the Little Helicopter books and 1994 animated children's television series:
1989, Budgie the Little Helicopter ISBN 978-0671676834
1989, Budgie at Bendick's Point ISBN 978-0689808494
1991, Budgie and the Blizzard
1992, The Adventures of Budgie ISBN 978-0671792497
1995, Budgie Books – S and S USA ISBN 978-0750096638
1996, Budgie Goes to Sea ISBN 978-0689808500
For young girls:
1997, The Royal Switch ISBN 978-0440412137
1997, Bright Lights ISBN 978-0440412168
Lifestyle books with Weight Watchers:
1998, Dieting with The Duchess ISBN 978-0684857459
1999, Dining with The Duchess ISBN 978-0684852164
2000, Win the Weight Game ISBN 978-0684870786
2001, Reinventing Yourself with the Duchess of York ISBN 978-1439146194
2002, Energy Breakthrough: Jump-start Your Weight Loss and Feel Great ISBN 978-0743232869
Little Red series:
2003, Little Red ISBN 978-1416918530
2004, Little Red’s Christmas Story ISBN 978-1442430761
2006, Little Red’s Summer Adventure ISBN 978-0689875717
2009, Little Red to the Rescue ISBN 978-0689875656
2009, Little Red's Autumn Adventure ISBN 978-0689843419
Helping Hand Books:
2007, Get Well Soon, Adam ISBN 978-1402774010
2007, Lauren's Moving Day ISBN 978-1402773983
2007, Healthy Food for Dylan ISBN 978-1402774003
2010, Ashley Learns about Strangers ISBN 978-1402773938
2010, Emily's First Day of School ISBN 978-1402773921
2010, Michael and His New Baby Brother ISBN 978-1402773907
2010, Matthew and the Bullies, ISBN 978-1402773914
2011, When Katie's Parents Separated ISBN 978-1402773952
2011, Zach Gets Some Exercise ISBN 978-1402773990
2011, Jacob Goes to the Doctor and Sophie Visits the Dentist ISBN 978-1402773969
2011, Molly Makes Friends ISBN 978-1402773976
2011, Olivia Says Goodbye to Grandpa ISBN 978-1402773945
About Queen Victoria:
1991, Victoria and Albert: A Family Life at Osborne House ISBN 978-0139508820
1993, Travels with Queen Victoria ISBN 978-0297831952
1988, A Guard Within ISBN 978-0394758343
1989, Skiing from the Inside: The Self-help Guide to Mastering the Slopes ISBN 978-0671697112
1997, My Story (autobiography) ISBN 978-0671004392
2003, What I Know Now: Simple Lessons Learned the Hard Way ISBN 978-1416578413
2003, Moments. The Duchess published a collection of her photographs in an art book, sold only in Britain, with all proceeds benefiting her UK-based charity, Children in Crisis.
2008, Tea for Ruby ISBN 978-1442426337
2008, Hartmoor, ISBN 978-1405054126
2011, Finding Sarah: A Duchess's Journey to Find Herself ISBN 978-1439189559
2012, Ballerina Rosie ISBN 978-1442430679
She had a few jobs prior to marriage. Working in PR, an art gallery, and before the wedding, for a publishing company. She had studied at a secretarial college.

Sarah was 27 when she married. She wasn't a 19 year old who hadn't spent much time in the real world, or dating. She definitely had more life experience then Diana when she married.
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Old 12-29-2017, 07:42 AM
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She actually wrote a number of books, and had quite a bit of success at that.

Wasn't she accused of plagiarizing her books, though?

I seem to recall there was quite an issue with that.
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Old 12-29-2017, 07:49 AM
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I thought that was Princess Michael.
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Old 12-29-2017, 08:04 AM
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I don't know about Princess Michael, but I do know Fergie supposedly plagiarized the Hector the Helicopter series...
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Old 12-29-2017, 10:38 AM
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Nope it was Fergi, accused of plagiarism with the Budgie books. I remember that.


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Nope it was Fergi, accused of plagiarism with the Budgie books. I remember that.


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Princess Michael was also accused of plagiarism, and more than once. Just google Princess Michael plagiarism.
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Both Sarah and PMK have been accused of plagiarism in the past.
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Like many authors, Fergie was Accused of plagiarism by another author. But it went no where. It was never proven that she plagiarized anything.

While Budgie is her most well known, she has had success with her other books she has written.

Unlike princess Michael who at least one case was settled.
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Old 12-29-2017, 02:30 PM
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I believe the author of Hector the Helicopter, A. W. Baldwin, was deceased when Budgie was published - the plots are almost identical as I recall.
My recollection is that the bigger fuss was over Sarah’s claims that most of the Budgie proceeds would go to charity which didn’t happen. Starky’s book has a great deal of detail about Sarah’s financial dealings during that time.
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I believe the author of Hector the Helicopter, A. W. Baldwin, was deceased when Budgie was published - the plots are almost identical as I recall.
My recollection is that the bigger fuss was over Sarah’s claims that most of the Budgie proceeds would go to charity which didn’t happen. Starky’s book has a great deal of detail about Sarah’s financial dealings during that time.
If there was any actual bases for the plagiarism, his estate/family could have sued her. Especially when the tv show was made and money came out of it. Many stories have similar story lines, takes more then that to make a case. If there was any legal cause to believe it plagiarism, someone would have taken Fergie to court. They didn't.

Despite the controversy surrounding that series of books, she had success with several other series of books.
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Old 12-29-2017, 04:52 PM
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If there was any actual bases for the plagiarism, his estate/family could have sued her. Especially when the tv show was made and money came out of it. Many stories have similar story lines, takes more then that to make a case. If there was any legal cause to believe it plagiarism, someone would have taken Fergie to court. They didn't.

Despite the controversy surrounding that series of books, she had success with several other series of books.
I was responding to the claim that the author had claimed plagerism, which clearly he did not. There are many reasons people choose not to sue - whether a claim has merits is only one, the fact that someone isn’t sued doesn’t prove or disprove the underlying merits of the claim. Likewise, the fact that someone chooses to settle out of court, as did Princess Michael, may be based on pragmatic concerns rather than actual culpability. Insurance companies routinely pay off nuisance claims because it would cost more in legal fees to defend them.
Unfortunately, for all of her success at making money through the years, Sarah hasn’t managed to retain much of it.
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