What is your opinion about Sarah, Duchess of York? - Page 14

rmay286 · #**261** 04-21-2008, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaDreamin

I think they have all done their fair share of damage with plenty to go around...

You're absolutely right, all the other members of the royal family have shown more than their fair share of unsavory behaviour. Serenissima's right, the only difference between them and Sarah is that Sarah does not know how to put on a different face in public.

Roslyn · #**262** 04-21-2008, 06:23 PM

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You're absolutely right, all the other members of the royal family have shown more than their fair share of unsavory behaviour. Serenissima's right, the only difference between them and Sarah is that Sarah does not know how to put on a different face in public.

So Sarah's not as hypocritical and sneaky as the others. And that's a bad thing?

Moonmaiden23 · #**263** 04-21-2008, 06:34 PM

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So Sarah's not as hypocritical and sneaky as the others. And that's a bad thing?

I don't think that is what she meant at all. It's neither a "good" or "bad" thing. She was simply agreeing with the premise that Sarah's misdeeds were more spectacular and in public, while the other members of the family have done similar bad things but knew how to not to get caught. Either that or they were more savvy about manipulating public and press opinion in their favor than Sarah was.

serenissima · #**264** 04-21-2008, 06:37 PM

We do not hear very much about her recently. Does she live in America now ?

Moonmaiden23 · #**265** 04-21-2008, 06:39 PM

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We do not hear very much about her recently. Does she live in America now ?

She divides her time between New York City and Britain.

Russophile · #**266** 04-21-2008, 07:12 PM

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So Sarah's not as hypocritical and sneaky as the others. And that's a bad thing?

One would hope that NONE of the Royals would exhibit those qualities. She just seems to put her hoof in it more often than not!

serenissima · #**267** 04-21-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaDreamin

She divides her time between New York City and Britain.

Oh, I see. I suppose that she must get paid very nicely by the American TV shows etc. A lot of our lot go to find such highly paid jobs over there nowadays. The organist of St Paul's also went over to St Thomas's in New York as their organist.

Anyway, going back to Sarah Ferguson, is she a TV personality over there ? I do vaguely remember her appearing in one of the series of FRIENDS or something but it was such a long time ago.

Moonmaiden23 · #**268** 04-21-2008, 07:26 PM

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One would hope that NONE of the Royals would exhibit those qualities. She just seems to put her hoof in it more often than not!

I agree. It's very frustrating, isn't it? But sometimes she has herself to blame and other times it appears that the media(in Britain) sort of have it in for her.

Like the recent unflattering photos of herself asleep in the taxicab!

Moonmaiden23 · #**269** 04-21-2008, 07:32 PM

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Oh, I see. I suppose that she must get paid very nicely by the American TV shows etc. A lot of our lot go to find such highly paid jobs over there nowadays. The organist of St Paul's also went over to St Thomas's in New York as their organist.

Anyway, going back to Sarah Ferguson, is she a TV personality over there ? I do vaguely remember her appearing in one of the series of FRIENDS or something but it was such a long time ago.

Well she has several commercial endorsements that she does, most famous (or INFAMOUS if you will) is for Weight Watchers.

Also I heard that she does some sort of work for CNN's Larry King. I am not sure what it is. I understand that Sarah needs to make her own way in the world since most of the $$ she received in her settlement is in trust for her children but I do wish she wasn't so willing to lend her name to any old product that seems willing to exploit her Royal connections and name. I guess I just wish she'd been more prudent in the choices of what to allow her name to be connected with.

Sarah is no dummy, despite her lack of prudence and common sense. She has written at least two beautiful books on Queen Victoria and her children and homes(she is fascinated by that monarch and by that period of English history. That's why she gave her daughters those names!)

So how did we get from Queen Victoria at Osborne House to....WEIGHT WATCHERS and Ocean Spray Cranberry juice??!!

Russophile · #**270** 04-21-2008, 07:36 PM

Funny, I never see her, then again, I never watch Larry King either. . .

Moonmaiden23 · #**271** 04-21-2008, 07:48 PM

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Funny, I never see her, then again, I never watch Larry King either. . .

I rarely watch him either. He drives me bonkers. But I read somewhere that she works for his show and I don't know if it's on air or behind the scenes.

Russophile · #**272** 04-21-2008, 07:52 PM

Is she still spokesperson for that china? I remember she actually got on TV and stood on a cup to show how durable it was. I think it was Regis and Kathy Lee which tells you how long ago it was!

Moonmaiden23 · #**273** 04-21-2008, 07:57 PM

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Is she still spokesperson for that china? I remember she actually got on TV and stood on a cup to show how durable it was. I think it was Regis and Kathy Lee which tells you how long ago it was!

OMG..she did WHAT??! I vaguely remember something about some china...but standing on a cup for Regis and Kathy Lee?? This is exactly the type of thing that I am talking about that she needs to avoid-I am glad I missed it frankly.

I remember the silly juice commercial and of course Weight Watchers much more clearly.l

Russophile · #**274** 04-21-2008, 08:12 PM

I think it was Wedgwood china. I tried YouTubing it but nothing came up. But yeah, she stood on a cup and they (Regis and Kathy Lee) just looked at her wondering, imo, if the cup were going to break. I only watched the show because her book had come out and I was in a phase of reading all things Windsor. (Many, many bio.s at that time of the House of Windsor)

rmay286 · #**275** 04-21-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaDreamin

I don't think that is what she meant at all. It's neither a "good" or "bad" thing. She was simply agreeing with the premise that Sarah's misdeeds were more spectacular and in public, while the other members of the family have done similar bad things but knew how to not to get caught. Either that or they were more savvy about manipulating public and press opinion in their favor than Sarah was.

Thanks, you were spot on about what I meant to say.

Not being hypocritical and sneaky isn't a bad thing, as a matter of fact I'm glad Sarah doesn't have those personality traits. But the problem is, her transparency makes her look like she does more ill-advised, stupid things than the rest of the royal family--whereas in reality they all have made their fair share of mistakes, it's just that we haven't seen as many of them.

Furienna · #**276** 04-22-2008, 10:53 AM

Well, I don't know much about her, since I'm Swedish. But I have understood that she has gotten a rough deal, and that many people don't like her.

muriel · #**277** 04-22-2008, 12:14 PM

I am really no fan of Sarah's but I do think she has done remarkably well to rebuild her life after the divorce. Some may argue that she has traded on her royal title, but so be it - she has built up a reasonable business for herself, and has earned financial security for her daughters and herself.

As a keen supporter of the royal family, I hate to say that she was clearly not well provided for in her divorce settlement (despite the Queen herself separately providing funding for a house for Sarah and the girls subsequent to the divorce).

I am not sure why the royal family are on such bad terms with her - and it is unlikely we will ever find out. I have no doubt that her behaviour during her marriage to Andrew was less than diginified and mature, but it has been 16 years now since the separation was announced. Clearly Andrew and Sarah remain close, but the rest of the royal family does not seem to be willing to include her in their lives.

Furienna · #**278** 04-22-2008, 12:29 PM

Many people don't want anything to do with former in-laws after a divorce. I guess royals aren't different. I'm actually surprised that Andrew and Sarah obviously still get along so well after their divorce, but it's of course good for Beatrice and Eugenie.

AuroraB · #**279** 04-22-2008, 12:37 PM

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I am really no fan of Sarah's but I do think she has done remarkably well to rebuild her life after the divorce...

I was under the assumption that The Queen paid off Sarah's bills the first time, but when she ran up another healthy tab The Queen (rightly so IMHO) refused to pay off her debts for a second time. Did Sarah really expect to get bailed out a second time? If she did, then she is a very slow learner.

The debts combined with the photos did nothing to endear her to the BRF.

serenissima · #**280** 04-22-2008, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaDreamin

Well she has several commercial endorsements that she does, most famous (or INFAMOUS if you will) is for Weight Watchers.

Oh, I see, Well, she did lose a lot of weight. I wonder she eats a lot of Weight Watchers Heinz soup etc ?

Anyway, if she has no other means to earn her living etc, then, she just has to take whatever she is offered (within reason) as long as they pay her, I suppose.