The Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein Controversy 2010-2023

rmay286 · #1 12-06-2010, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mermaid1962

I think that the press smells blood.

I think you are right!

His Buffoon Highness strikes again: Prince Andrew parties with his sex offender pal | Mail Online

Wow, the attacks just keep coming...

HRH Princess Sonya · #2 12-06-2010, 09:51 PM

Wow PA seems to be damned by the press no matter what he does. If he ran into oncoming traffic to save a small child from being hit by a car the press would say he staged it.

fergalicious · #3 12-15-2010, 05:00 PM

@ Mermaid1962 I'm smirking at all that, too. Yellow muckraking press, dirt, mud-slinging, libellous and slanderous articles, just boring. A litter bin is worth more than that! jaja

AnnEliza · #4 12-15-2010, 07:20 PM

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Wow PA seems to be damned by the press no matter what he does. If he ran into oncoming traffic to save a small child from being hit by a car the press would say he staged it.

That does seem to be the way of it -- if he'd let Sarah crash and burn, he'd be criticized for that, too. He can do no right, it seems.

NotAPretender · #5 02-21-2011, 01:32 PM

A few more details about Andrew's visit to his friend stateside in December:

Seen around town: Prince Andrew and perv billionaire Jeffrey Epstein stroll around New York City - NYPOST.com

Hot and cold running cuties for the pair, evidently.

Russophile · #6 02-21-2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NotAPretender

A few more details about Andrew's visit to his friend stateside in December:

Seen around town: Prince Andrew and perv billionaire Jeffrey Epstein stroll around New York City - NYPOST.com

Hot and cold running cuties for the pair, evidently.

Gee that will go a long way for HRH to polish his tarnished image.

Mermaid1962 · #7 02-21-2011, 08:12 PM

Yes. There's no evidence that Andrew did anything wrong on his trip to New York, but his company is certainly questionable.

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Gee that will go a long way for HRH to polish his tarnished image.

Irish Eyes · #8 02-26-2011, 09:00 PM

Pictured: Prince Andrew and the 17-year-old girl his sex offender friend flew to Britain to meet him | Mail Online

The Daily Mail had a go at Fergie and Beatrice during the week so I suppose it's back to Andrew now.
A few more headlines like this and I think his Trade Envoy role will really be in jeopardy. His "Friend" sounds like bad news and i hope Andrew has nothing more to do with him.

Iluvbertie · #9 02-26-2011, 09:50 PM

The DM have never reported positively about Andrew so what is new but ... I do think he needs to step down from his position and retire from public life after this.

Mermaid1962 · #10 02-27-2011, 12:16 AM

This is looking quite bad for Andrew, I agree. I feel badly for his daughters. The DM is getting more and more daring as far as Andrew's connections are concerned. If there aren't out-and-out denials issued about this latest article--with proof to back up those denials--Andrew's public role is over.

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Originally Posted by Iluvbertie

The DM have never reported positively about Andrew so what is new but ... I do think he needs to step down from his position and retire from public life after this.

Iluvbertie · #11 02-27-2011, 12:54 AM

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This is looking quite bad for Andrew, I agree. I feel badly for his daughters. The DM is getting more and more daring as far as Andrew's connections are concerned. If there aren't out-and-out denials issued about this latest article--with proof to back up those denials--Andrew's public role is over.

The story that he meet a 17 year old 10 years ago, for a night out, with nothing else happening isn't a problem for me but...that he openly associates with pedophiles is - that should be a no no for anyone of any integrity.

Time to go Andrew - live on one of Mummy's estates and stay away from the public life for the next 40 years.

rmay286 · #12 02-27-2011, 12:55 AM

Interestingly, I can't open the Daily Mail link. I can see the headline on their sidebar when I go to the Daily Mail home page, and I can open up all their other articles without any problem, but not the article about Andrew and the sex offender. I wonder if someone has blocked it?

Can someone tell me what the article is about?

Mermaid1962 · #13 02-27-2011, 01:01 AM

I'm sending you a private message, rmay286.

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Interestingly, I can't open the Daily Mail link. I can see the headline on their sidebar when I go to the Daily Mail home page, and I can open up all their other articles without any problem, but not the article about Andrew and the sex offender. I wonder if someone has blocked it?

Can someone tell me what the article is about?

Iluvbertie · #14 02-27-2011, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rmay286

Interestingly, I can't open the Daily Mail link. I can see the headline on their sidebar when I go to the Daily Mail home page, and I can open up all their other articles without any problem, but not the article about Andrew and the sex offender. I wonder if someone has blocked it?

Can someone tell me what the article is about?

I have just gone to the site and have had no problems opening it.

Mermaid1962 · #15 02-27-2011, 01:11 AM

I didn't have any trouble either. I noticed that more pics of the young woman have been added.

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I have just gone to the site and have had no problems opening it.

Mermaid1962 · #16 02-27-2011, 01:14 AM

It might be too late. The pictures of the two of them walking together have been published. What has seen cannot be unseen.

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His "Friend" sounds like bad news and i hope Andrew has nothing more to do with him.

rmay286 · #17 02-27-2011, 01:14 AM

You're right, I can open it now. Strange, though. For about 10 minutes I couldn't open the link, maybe because they were adding new pictures?

Having read the article, I agree with Iluvbertie...Prince Andrew may have not known who he was associating with 10 years ago, but after this man's conviction, he should have known better than to hang around with him.

I can't really see this costing him his job, though...

Mermaid1962 · #18 02-27-2011, 01:29 AM

I always like to give people the benefit of the doubt; but now that Andrew's friendship with this convicted man is known, there'll be a large question mark over his head as to his judgement. Should a man who lacks the wisdom to avoid a convicted pedophile's company be a person with a high-profile, responsible position where a lot of judgement is needed? It's not just that this man is Andrew's associate; it's that Andrew didn't seem to see a problem with going for a walk with him in public. There was apparently no concern that his friendship with this pedophile would be publicly noted and recorded. Even if Andrew's person behaviour has been above-board, he doesn't seem to understand that a person is often judged by the company he keeps.

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I can't really see this costing him his job, though...

rmay286 · #19 02-27-2011, 01:57 AM

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I always like to give people the benefit of the doubt; but now that Andrew's friendship with this convicted man is known, there'll be a large question mark over his head as to his judgement. Should a man who lacks the wisdom to avoid a convicted pedophile's company be a person with a high-profile, responsible position where a lot of judgement is needed? It's not just that this man is Andrew's associate; it's that Andrew didn't seem to see a problem with going for a walk with him in public. There was apparently no concern that his friendship with this pedophile would be publicly noted and recorded. Even if Andrew's person behaviour has been above-board, he doesn't seem to understand that a person is often judged by the company he keeps.

Oh, I agree that Prince Andrew often hangs around with questionable people. I'm sure there is more that goes on behind the scenes than even the Daily Mail can uncover. I don't think Andrew has very good judgment, really. It's just that he has associated with questionable people before, and after an initial outcry, it hasn't ever forced him to resign...and frankly, a lot of people in public positions hang around with shady characters.

Spending time with a convicted pedophile is pretty sketchy; but it really depends on what UKTI decides. Public outry in the papers alone can't affect Andrew's role one way or the other.

I must say, though, that on the whole I don't think Andrew is any better a judge of people than Sarah is. She's just much more of a risk-taker and ends up doing questionable things, publicly, with the aforesaid people...but neither of them seem to have good sense when it comes to who they associate with.

Mirabel · #20 02-27-2011, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Iluvbertie

Time to go Andrew - live on one of Mummy's estates and stay away from the public life for the next 40 years.

Surely he doesn't need to become a recluse?
Why not devote himself to more charity work, perhaps more with injured military personnel?
(Something like that would gradually reestablish his reputation with the public).