The Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein Controversy 2010-2023

[Denville]

Originally Posted by caethi

Andrew could a) do charity work under the radar b) find a real job under the radar.

Charities wouldn't likely want him for any public role, but he could do private things (although not anything to do with minors). He could find a real job where he could use his talents (whatever they are). Even if he only worked two days a week, it would give him some purpose.

In order for him to do either of these things, he would have to do a lot of soul searching, swallow his pride and buckle down and do a day's work. At his age, when people are retiring, it isn't easy to find work, but there are lots of people who need tutoring in ESL (again, not kids!), for example. He would need to come down off his high horse and get his hands dirty. It could be done if he wanted to.

He could not do any private things for a charity. It would leak out and he would be forced to stop. He has worked all his royal life, so its not as if he's done nothing, but he's not going to get any work in the charity sector and probalby not in the private sector either.

[tihkon2]

Originally Posted by Toledo

Maybe his daughters and Sarah can do a private intervention. He needs to understand to recover some sort of credibility in public life he needs to accept advice.

Eh....I probably wouldn't take their advice either. It's been said that Beatrice or Sarah actually suggested the awful tone deaf interview he did in the first place.

[Denville]

the queen agreed to the interview,

[King of the Jungle]

I don't know why Andrew couldn't pack food boxes or man soup kitchens.
What would be the risk?
Even a retired person needs to maintain some useful interest
Maybe he could grow vegetables and box them for care homes.
He could take needy folk on golf tours for a treat.
Visit older people who have no vsiitors and read to them.
Ride his horses through various parts of the UK photographing native plants for scientific purposes.
Andrew could never take up royal duties again due to extreme bad judgement in befriending Epstein. And the media never leave the topic alone.
He will not disappear. He has not been found guilty of anything.
He did make a caring companian to his mother. He's loyal to his family.

Should Andrew's dalliances with Guiffre be further disproved could his standing ever improve? If he went to court and won.
Could the media ever be forced to stop reporting on his past?

[Denville]

Originally Posted by King of the Jungle

I don't know why Andrew couldn't pack food boxes or man soup kitchens.
What would be the risk?
Even a retired person needs to maintain some useful interest
Maybe he could grow vegetables and box them for care homes.
He could take needy folk on golf tours for a treat.
Visit older people who have no vsiitors and read to them.
Ride his horses through various parts of the UK photographing native plants for scientific purposes.
Andrew could never take up royal duties again due to extreme bad judgement in befriending Epstein. And the media never leave the topic alone.
He will not disappear. He has not been found guilty of anything.
He did make a caring companian to his mother. He's loyal to his family.

Should Andrew's dalliances with Guiffre be further disproved could his standing ever improve? If he went to court and won.
Could the media ever be forced to stop reporting on his past?

Its been said now dozens of times. No charity wants Andrew working for them even in a low level capacity.
and Andrew does not have the talents to do most of the things you suggest, He is not going to ride horses around to take photos.. why not just go in a car? He's not likely to be reading to old folks, or take people on golf tours. He's not a naturally friendly or warm hearted guy and he's not got the humility to do anything of that nature. ANd even if he did, no charity would permit it.

[King of the Jungle]

Giving in a charitable way through no formal entity other than his own could help needy folk. Should Andrew wish to do that of course.
Do you not think that people would use boxes of vegies grown byAndrew?

I imagine Andrew could also be very useful in cataloging historical data, paperwork, letters etc. collected during the lives of his mother and father.
An historian could find him invaluable as an assistant.

[Curryong]

If Andrew has had any interest in gardening and growing vegetables in his gardens for the benefit of others he has certainly kept it hidden in the last 40 years of his adult life. Why would he suddenly develop it now at over 60 years of age?

And the Royal Archives and Royal Library at Windsor and BP have a team of fully trained professionals in charge of the historical collections of past royals, including both private and public documents.

Although they do welcome volunteers, they would have to undergo some training and have a working historical knowledge in order to really assist. Again, there has never been any sign, as far as I know, of Prince Andrew having any interest in collating or cataloguing documents of any kind.

[King of the Jungle]

Yes, though people do cultivate new skills once retired if they wish to be involved in community and to be useful. Andrew can't work part time in his old field so I won't be surprised if he participates in something other than exercising the horses, dogs and grandchildren.

[Denville]

Andrew is not going to be able to do anything like this. If he wants to do something, of a work nature, it will have to be privately arranged with his friends or family, who will be willing to be very discreet about it. YOu do know that when the scandal hit, most of the charities he had worked with dropped him and he had to announce that he was giving up his work.

[Lilyflo]

Originally Posted by King of the Jungle

Giving in a charitable way through no formal entity other than his own could help needy folk. Should Andrew wish to do that of course.
Do you not think that people would use boxes of vegies grown byAndrew?

I imagine Andrew could also be very useful in cataloging historical data, paperwork, letters etc. collected during the lives of his mother and father.
An historian could find him invaluable as an assistant.

I've previously made suggestions of things he could do but they all require him having a subservient role due to his lack of expertise. Given the numerous reports of his arrogant, bombastic character, it's likely that working in any role requiring a modicum of humility would be beyond him.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Lilyflo

I've previously made suggestions of things he could do but they all require him having a subservient role due to his lack of expertise. Given the numerous reports of his arrogant, bombastic character, it's likely that working in any role requiring a modicum of humility would be beyond him.

He cant do anything. Even if he was willing to wash dishes in a homeless shelter for 10 years behind the scenes, I dont think any charity would accept him as a volunteer. the message seems to be very clear that charities just wont/cant use him.

[Lilyflo]

Originally Posted by Denville

He cant do anything. Even if he was willing to wash dishes in a homeless shelter for 10 years behind the scenes, I dont think any charity would accept him as a volunteer. the message seems to be very clear that charities just wont/cant use him.

There are things he could do outside of the charity sector but they all require him to take an assistant / learner / low-profile role. I'd be surprised if he could do that for very long, if at all.

[Denville]

I can't see non charities being willing to take him on either. If it came out that he was working in some business, there would be a major hoo ha. Same with jobs in the voluntary sector, like for example assisting in a museum or the like. Noone is going to take him on except perhaps friends who can find some use for him perhaps in some sports related business and it would all have to be hush hush..

[TLLK]

Originally Posted by Denville

He cant do anything. Even if he was willing to wash dishes in a homeless shelter for 10 years behind the scenes, I dont think any charity would accept him as a volunteer. the message seems to be very clear that charities just wont/cant use him.

Currently I don't believe he could do something in person, but some charities do accept volunteers to work from home on their devices, foster animals or to even stuff envelopes.


Suggestions for at home volunteering in the UK.



https://www.cambridgecvs.org.uk/Volu...%20from%20home

[Denville]

He did soem packaging lunches for NHS workers a while ago and when it leaked out he had to stop. Look, no charity or state body or voluntary organisation will touch him. Doesn't matter if he does it at home, or is sweepng up in the back kitchen of a shelter or whatever. Even if he were willing to be as humble and hard working as you please, he's just not going to be allowed to do anyting.

[Toledo]

Originally Posted by Denville

He cant do anything. Even if he was willing to wash dishes in a homeless shelter for 10 years behind the scenes, I dont think any charity would accept him as a volunteer. the message seems to be very clear that charities just wont/cant use him.

I don't know his finances or current source of income, but can he just stay off sight and live in his home with whatever he has now, a pension, a trust (?) and just stay off the news? Or is that too much for him over there and he insists on nothing to see here and wants the limelight again?

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Toledo

I don't know his finances or current source of income, but can he just stay off sight and live in his home with whatever he has now, a pension, a trust (?) and just stay off the news? Or is that too much for him over there and he insists on nothing to see here and wants the limelight again?

What do you mean? ANdrew is not doing anything to be in the news, he goes riding, that's almost the only time anyone from the press get a pic of him. I imagine that he visits his family and freinds, but he's not out in public much, if at all. He may wish that he could go back to working as a royal, but I would imagine that he knows its impossible for him to do any public work again...

[padams2359]

Everyone is worried that accepting his help would look too much like condoning his past behavior.

[victor1319]

Originally Posted by Toledo

I don't know his finances or current source of income, but can he just stay off sight and...

Yeah! Out of sight is not necessarily out of mind, but he is a disgrace!

[Denville]

He IS out of sight, he's behaved badly but he's not exaclty out in public much.