The Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein Controversy 2010-2023

[Madame Verseau]

And they say Harry and Meghan have bad advisors. That break up could have been done over the phonem

[Empress Merel]

He sure feels like a victim here. What a pathetic man and his advisors are no better. He lives for the recognition he gets for being the Queen's favorite child and being a ''trophy friend'' is an honor badge. What a laughable defense.

[Dman]

All the excuses that Prince Andrew and his advisors has made about this whole thing has been the dumbest I’ve ever heard. They’re simply insulting everybody’s intelligence.

[Gawin]

Originally Posted by Dman

All the excuses that Prince Andrew and his advisors has made about this whole thing has been the dumbest I’ve ever heard. They’re simply insulting everybody’s intelligence.

I agree. These stories aren't helping his case and all they do is draw even more attention to the Andrew/Epstein scandal.

[Iluvbertie]

Originally Posted by Madame Verseau

And they say Harry and Meghan have bad advisors. That break up could have been done over the phonem

The explanation as to why that didn't happen - as given in 2011 by both Epstein and Andrew - was that Andrew didn't believe that was the honorable way to end the friendship.

This is not news. It has been in the public domain for 8 years. Nothing new has come out this year that wasn't made public in 2011 - no new allegations, nothing new at all.

I keep waiting to see something new but the same old stories are being rehashed over and over again - as a means to get clicks on stories and not for any other reason.

[Gawin]

Originally Posted by Iluvbertie

The explanation as to why that didn't happen - as given in 2011 by both Epstein and Andrew - was that Andrew didn't believe that was the honorable way to end the friendship.

This is not news. It has been in the public domain for 8 years. Nothing new has come out this year that wasn't made public in 2011 - no new allegations, nothing new at all.

I keep waiting to see something new but the same old stories are being rehashed over and over again - as a means to get clicks on stories and not for any other reason.

So because there's nothing new to report someone's just trotting out an old story?

[MaryQueenofScots]

Originally Posted by Osipi

This is it in a nutshell. Its been obvious that the York/Epstein friendship was good enough that it wasn't a problem to attain an extensive loan from Epstein when Sarah needed it. How much Sarah, or even Andrew knew of Epstein's sex ring though is still up in the air.

Well, we are told that in early 2011, when the press revealed that she had taken money from Epstein, Sarah Ferguson apologised and said that she abhorred paedophilia.
This all happened AFTER Epstein had got out of jail on charges of sex with and prostitution of minors. This was not a secret.
Yet Sarah and Andrew supposedly did not know (?!) and either partied with him with Epstein at his home/s or accepted money from him AFTER after he got out of jail.
Then, only when the press revealed the loans and the Yorks links to Epstein, they suddenly publicly distance themselves?

A couple of other points ... it would seem that Sarah has several times been Andrew's "fall guy". Also why did her husband, or extremely close friend and ex-husband, not help her with her debts, but get a known paedophile to giv eher money?

Many unanswered questions and very questionable goings on?

[rob2008]

Originally Posted by MaryQueenofScots

Well, we are told that in early 2011, when the press revealed that she had taken money from Epstein, Sarah Ferguson apologised and said that she abhorred paedophilia.
This all happened AFTER Epstein had got out of jail on charges of sex with and prostitution of minors. This was not a secret.
Yet Sarah and Andrew supposedly did not know (?!) and either partied with him with Epstein at his home/s or accepted money from him AFTER after he got out of jail.
Then, only when the press revealed the loans and the Yorks links to Epstein, they suddenly publicly distance themselves?

A couple of other points ... it would seem that Sarah has several times been Andrew's "fall guy". Also why did her husband, or extremely close friend and ex-husband, not help her with her debts, but get a known paedophile to giv eher money?

Many unanswered questions and very questionable goings on?

I doubt that that there will ever be adequate answers.

[Empress Merel]

https://pagesix.com/2019/10/19/detec...prince-andrew/

13 phone numbers to contact Andrew sure does seem like Andrew was a clueless victim in the web of pedophile rapist.

“It really took us out of south Florida and took us around the globe,” he said.

“For instance, if looking at the section in London, you could pick out the Duke of York, which is Prince Andrew. And … it shows Buckingham Palace,” he said. “He has 13 phone numbers to contact the duke.”

Better hope we'll give the documentary as much attention as we do concerning anything Sussex.

[sophie25]

Originally Posted by Empress Merel

https://pagesix.com/2019/10/19/detec...prince-andrew/

13 phone numbers to contact Andrew sure does seem like Andrew was a clueless victim in the web of pedophile rapist.



Better hope we'll give the documentary as much attention as we do concerning anything Sussex.

Dispatches is a serious and well respected investigative programme in the UK, it will be interesting to see what they have discovered.

[MARG]

I just watched a clip the refers to the allegation that the President raped an underaged child and was aware of this. It's an allegation whereas the number of phone numbers of Andrew's was listed in Epstein's little black book is a fact. It is also a fact that there are multiple phone numbers for many others in that book, whether it was the Ex-President, the President, Prince Andrew, Bill Gates or any other of the multiples of the good and great listed there is irrelevant.

[Osipi]

What the fact of how many numbers Epstein had in his "little black book" for Andrew, among others, doesn't say is if all the numbers were current. Over the years, numbers change. Keeping a book for years would see numbers added as old numbers are no longer valid. I've had a personal phone book like that and actually had 5 numbers listed for my son but at no time did he have more than one number (until smart phones and then he had two).

I would imagine there *are* a lot of different ways and places to contact Andrew but 17 of them?

[Dman]

Prince Andrew hiring a “forensic expert” to try to prove the picture of him and Virginia Giuffre is fake. Really, Andrew? How many times Andrew and those around around him will continue to try to insult our intelligence?

[Pranter]

You'd think the FBI et al would of already checked that out.


LaRae

[Dman]

Originally Posted by Pranter

You'd think the FBI et al would of already checked that out.

LaRae

It’s a silly and desperate move on his part.

[Pranter]

Plus ..why not say this like months/years ago? Now all the sudden it's a fake?


LaRae

[Dman]

Stevie Wonder can see that picture is real.

[MARG]

Where is that statement? I thi k I missed it in all the noise.

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by Dman

Prince Andrew hiring a “forensic expert” to try to prove the picture of him and Virginia Giuffre is fake. Really, Andrew? How many times Andrew and those around around him will continue to try to insult our intelligence?

Do you have a link to an article? Where did you read this?

[Rudolph]

I don’t have a link but it’s been reported in the press. Too little too late I think.