A victim said Jeffrey forced her to sleep with Andrew at least three times. Gross.
A victim said Jeffrey forced her to sleep with Andrew at least three times. Gross.]/QUOTE]
I would suggest that is unsubstantiated and therefore possibly libellous...
A victim said Jeffrey forced her to sleep with Andrew at least three times. Gross.]/QUOTE]
I would suggest that is unsubstantiated and therefore possibly libellous...
Precisely. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of Andrew and feel sorry for his daughters and to an extent Fergie, but that statement needs a source and not just heresy. Provide the source or remove the statement.
Where did you read that?
That's a loaded statement to make without backing it up with a source.
Another accuser, Virginia Roberts Giuffre, has long claimed that Epstein and Maxwell abused minor girls across the country and abroad, and that Epstein loaned his victims out to his famous friends, including Dershowitz and Prince Andrew.
Last week, the court ordered the release of sealed documents in the case.
Epstein allegedly forced Giuffre to have sex with Prince Andrew at least three times, including during an orgy. (The court filing includes a photo of “Andy” putting his arm around Giuffre’s partially bare waist, while Maxwell smiles in the background.)
Jeffrey Epstein Arrested for Sex Trafficking of Minors
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-of-minors-source
I've always felt that this was going to come back to haunt Andrew, so it will be interesting to see how the entire case progresses.
It's a nauseating story, and, unfortunately, not that uncommon.
Depends on how this goes, I don't think even The Queen will be able to save him from the fall-out this time. He's specifically named in the unsealed documents.
This is just so disgusting.Hope that Epstein will spend the rest of his life behind bars.I think it is the only way to ensure that he will never get to hurt anybody again.
Regarding Andrew - honestly,I hate to admit it,but even if he had participated in committing these crimes,I don’t think that he will get the appropriate punishment(or any punishment at all).I also suspect that even if there is evidence of it,his role in these crimes is not going to be officially confirmed.
That’s just my suspicions,but I would really love to hear the thoughts of others on this matter
He's specifically named in the unsealed documents.
Epstein has a lot of money to throw at it, which he has done successfully in the past, so we'll see. I'm trying not to say anything that I can't back up, but let's just say that I would be happy to see justice done.
It definitely is going to get very ugly. The Palace managed to do some serious damage control the last time, but they won't be able to now. Times have changed and the monarchy can't be seen as protecting Andrew if it goes as far as a criminal investigation. Just a suspicion that Andrew was involved in anything criminal would destroy his already bad reputation, tarnish the reputation of the monarchy and it would destroy his poor mother if any accusations turned out to be true.Folks, all of this is about to get very ugly.
It definitely is going to get very ugly. The Palace managed to do some serious damage control the last time, but they won't be able to now. Times have changed and the monarchy can't be seen as protecting Andrew if it goes as far as a criminal investigation. Just a suspicion that Andrew was involved in anything criminal would destroy his already bad reputation, tarnish the reputation of the monarchy and it would destroy his poor mother if any accusations turned out to be true.
I’ve seen nothing indicating that Andrew is being prosecuted or will be subpoenaed to testify in this case, although one victim claims one of her three encounters with him occurred in New York. But if he were, then whether he would be entitled to immunity is not clear cut - if he was in New York on business for the UK government, and thus entitled to full immunity, then yes, but the U.S. could request that his immunity be waived by the U.K.. If he was on a personal trip, then there would be no immunity for him. I’m not sure whether the third scenario, where he’d be entitled to immunity while doing government business/on government property but not otherwise (eg while at Epstein’s mansion) would apply to a member of the Queen’s family or not.You're right. Andrew can claim diplomatic immunity (since charges are being brought by the federal government in the U.S.). His image though would still be forever tarnished even if he doesn't pay with jail time.