How could we respect HRH the Duke of York for his Epstein Friendship and Sarah for Epstein paying her Debts.
How could we see this Duke wearing a Poppy on November 11 and Remembrance Day?
The Firm lost its Glory because of these 2.
It seems that Andrew and Sarah are merely two of hundreds of people in Epstein's social diary. Contacts that he skillfully nurtured so very successfully. Names that cover the spectrum of high society and political power. Names that included two US Presidents, one currently serving, Nobel Laureates and royals from Europe who included Prince Andrew. Just think, a man like that moving in the halls of power, of society, friend to the great and the good, just like Jimmy Saville, who would think so many honest decent people could be fooled?
Saville and Epstein were masters of the art of the con. How many times does a neighbour say "I never would have imagined, he seemed like the ideal neighbour, sponsored the kids, hell, he was even at a barbecue at my place last week". I just can't believe he's a murderer/serial killer/rapist/paedophile". He seemed so nice.
As to Remembrance Day? Much as it may be inconvenient to your picture of righteous anger, Andrew earned his medals in the theatre of war. He has as much right as any other Veteran and more than any other royal who has not served, to stand there.
Roslyn says we "do have evidence" to which I can only say, that feeling, believing, is not enough. Evidence of a crime is the only standard by which a person can be charged in a court of law. When Prince Andrew is charged with a crime and convicted by a jury of his peers, then I will say he is guilty of that which he was convicted. Neither you nor I have the right to decide the criminal guilt or innocence of a man or woman unless we are sitting on a jury in said court.
We are each at liberty to discuss the issue, to pronounce our opinions, but when we start pronouncing criminal guilt, dispensing with the inconvenience of the rule of law, we need to stop and look at who we are and where we stand. Here on this forum, the utmost civility was maintained by the simple expedient of those who made a contentious personal decision about a person or a subjet, prefixing it by that marvellous maxim: IMO - In my opinion.
Those of us that enjoy the rights of a democratic society and are comfortable and safe in the knowledge that we cannot be imprisoned at the whim of some person and kept there with no legal representation nor even expectation of getting a day in court, know this: as soon as you endorse the abrogation of the rule of law, that is the day your democracy begins to die and with it, your rights.