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Old 07-05-2020, 10:47 PM
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I understand your point but I can't agree. The Feds have many people standing in line to testify against Maxwell and, apparently, there is documentary evidence supporting the charges against her. As you indicated, he is one of many men who may have been involved. So why did the prosecutor make such a big deal about interviewing Andrew for the Maxwell case? I suspect it is because filing charges against Andrew would allow the prosecutor to bask in a lot of media attention.

As an attorney, I would not let Andrew go near it. I also want to note that I do not know if he is innocent or guilty. Not every allegation is true.
I wholeheartedly agree. Andrew should not cooperate in any manner - if the US wants to charge him that is their call to make - but cooperating opens the door.

Ultimately, Andrew's biggest mistake was not taking legal advice before he did the BBC interview which was his most crucial error. I don't know anyone who practices who would have advised him to do that. Silence is golden in most cases.
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Old 07-06-2020, 08:49 AM
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What exactly does she need to help them with? Isn't she the one that is charged and needs to suffer the consequences for her misdeeds?
She may have had helpers whom she coudl tattle on.. or lead them to other victims.. but she seems to have been the one who was most at fault, after Epstein himself..... so I dont suppose the FBI are that interested in what she can tell tehm.
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Old 07-06-2020, 09:39 AM
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I'm sure they'd love to be able to download all the information in Maxwell's head and get a clearer picture of what all happened over the years. However, I don't think they'd grant leniency for the information. They want to put this woman behind bars for the full extent the law provides. She's looking at 35 years in prison which would mean she'd be 93 when she's released.

The best chance now of finding more victims is Maxwell behind bars. I've seen it stated in various places that a lot of the girls were afraid to get on the wrong side of both Epstein and Maxwell. Threats against their lives and their families lives were not uncommon.
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Old 07-06-2020, 10:24 AM
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All that aside, I am guessing the photo of her in BP was taken at Beatrice's birthday party where Kevin Spacey was also a guest. ...
As to PA, I fail to see the connection between he and Ms Maxwell other than they were acquainted, ...
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The throne room photo was taken in 2002, Beatrice would have been 14, so I doubt that her birthday was the occasion.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/04/uk/ma...ntl/index.html
Ghislaine Maxwell & Prince Andrew were more than ‘acquainted,’ they were/are long term friends, he admitted in his TV interview he last saw her in June 2019, which was well after details regarding her participation in Epstein’s activities were known.
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Old 07-06-2020, 10:31 AM
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Andrew is actually closer with Maxwell than he was with Epstein and it was through Maxwell he met Epstein. Its no surprise that with the way he defended his friendship with Epstein in that disastrous interview, he definitely wouldn't turn tail on Ghislaine either.

Wouldn't have been surprised to learn Maxwell was hiding out at Royal Lodge either. I was really surprised she was nabbed in New Hampshire.

Its Andrew being the Andrew he is.
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Old 07-06-2020, 12:31 PM
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It will be interesting yet sad to see all that is uncovered of the sheer evil of Epstein and Maxwell and how well they hid their abuse of young women from others.
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Old 07-06-2020, 12:53 PM
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I've just seen the pix where Maxwell and Kevin S are sitting on the throne (and obviously Andrew didn't object to it and to pix being taken).
What a shame !
Surely as more of Andrew's irresponsible mistakes are learned about, the Queen will become more disappointed in him? The photographs showing disrespectful use are of incredible importance because the Crown is so visibly mocked and devalued. HMQ was taught by Queen Mary that the Crown must always win (one of the few accuracies in the TV programme). The Crown must always be SEEN to be on top and beyond reproach and controversy. There could scarcely be a more potent symbol of the wrong path that Andrew has taken the British monarchy than these repellent images. It is hard to watch the disgraceful behaviour with such fundamental emblems of the state.

If you visit Buckingham Palace, there is an absolute ban on taking photographs. Ironic how these private visitors were released from that requirements. We have a Prince of the blood behaving like a spoiled, over-indulged son of a feudal tyrant.
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Old 07-06-2020, 12:56 PM
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Maxwell is to be arraigned this Friday

https://www-bloomberg-com.cdn.amppro...friday-hearing

Everyone who ran in that circle is worrying, or should be.
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Old 07-06-2020, 01:49 PM
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Journalists being asked to not discuss Andrew. Interesting.

https://twitter.com/politicoryan/sta...500596737?s=21
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Old 07-06-2020, 02:39 PM
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My sympathies are with his daughters, Beatrice and Eugenie. I can't think of anything more embarrassing than one of your parents being linked to this kind of criminal activity.
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Old 07-06-2020, 02:51 PM
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Journalists being asked to not discuss Andrew. Interesting.

https://twitter.com/politicoryan/sta...500596737?s=21
I think the request came through over when the arrest was announced. It is not a media freeze, just a request for quiet. I feel that Andrew is indeed talking and that a deal is been worked on. Note it is coming from the justice department not the palace, UK government or Andrew's lawyers. We will see in time.
Maybe they just dont want idle gossip to cloud their current success?
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Old 07-06-2020, 02:53 PM
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I'm sure that Beatrice and Eugenie are not over the moon with all that has been linked to Andrew concerning Epstein and Maxwell but in strong, healthy families, there is an element of "agape" which is unconditional love. The
"no matter what kind of love" that keeps a family bond strong through thick and thin and ups and downs and when things go south.
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Old 07-06-2020, 04:38 PM
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I'm sure that Beatrice and Eugenie are not over the moon with all that has been linked to Andrew concerning Epstein and Maxwell but in strong, healthy families, there is an element of "agape" which is unconditional love. The
"no matter what kind of love" that keeps a family bond strong through thick and thin and ups and downs and when things go south.
Osipi, do you think Sarah and Andrew's relationship will survive this scandal?
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Old 07-06-2020, 04:39 PM
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Journalists being asked to not discuss Andrew. Interesting.

https://twitter.com/politicoryan/sta...500596737?s=21
If you look at the responses it is being fulled by fans of a another "member" of the RF
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Old 07-06-2020, 04:44 PM
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Osipi, do you think Sarah and Andrew's relationship will survive this scandal?
I do. They've come this far and stayed together as a family through all the embarrassments and goofs and not so bright actions in the past. I don't think this will be any different.
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Old 07-06-2020, 04:55 PM
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Muzzling the press huh? I wonder if they will abide by that if this happens

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sex-tapes.html

If tapes comes out and Andrew and others are others are on them (if true) how they overcome that.
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Old 07-06-2020, 05:07 PM
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I do. They've come this far and stayed together as a family through all the embarrassments and goofs and not so bright actions in the past. I don't think this will be any different.
I agree, I think they need each other at the moment. I just hope that the girls get to hear the truth from Andrew himself, and not from the press or social media. They deserve that much.
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Old 07-06-2020, 05:19 PM
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You know it's bad when royal reporters are deployed

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Old 07-06-2020, 08:10 PM
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I doubt the press are being muzzled, asking a guest to be mindful of getting into legal issues and the like is not muzzling them, its asking them to respect the law in all forms, including slander and the like.

Its not as if this isn't all over the papers and other media and the BBC were the ones who did THAT interview with him.
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Old 07-07-2020, 11:01 PM
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https://www.vanityfair.com/style/202...maxwell-arrest
Vanity Fair article speaks to Prince Andrew's friendship with Ghislaine Maxwell and his bystander role in the Epstein Maxwell case.

Laura Goldman, an American stockbroker and friend of Maxwell’s, told The Telegraph that she was confident that Maxwell would never turn over any information about Andrew to the FBI because of their friendship. “The only way she can walk is if she gives someone up, but that definitely won’t be Andrew,” said Goldman. “She is so appreciative that when she first came to New York, the duke helped to launch her into high society. She always talks about what a true friend he is. She doesn’t see any reason to speak about him to the authorities.”

Goldman also seconded Andrew’s previous claim that he assumed the people he saw at Epstein’s house were “staff.” She said, “Ghislaine’s always told me that Andrew’s kind of stupid and naive and if there were girls in the house while he was there, he would have thought they were servants. All these people thinking he is evil are just wrong. He is just the kind of entitled person who sees everyone as a servant.”
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