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Old 07-02-2020, 02:49 PM
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It took so long to charge Maxwell because they actually had to find her first.
U.S. law allows for charges to be brought even if the person is "missing".
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Old 07-02-2020, 02:54 PM
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CNN did mention Andrew and speaking with him and Buckingham Place.

Buckingham Palace doesn’t speak for Prince Andrew, he is a non working royal and has his own legal team to look after his press relations.

The most recent announcements from Prince Andrews team are not connected in anyway with BP.

A source close to Prince Andrew has spoken to say the following;

https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/sta...388187143?s=21
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Old 07-02-2020, 04:20 PM
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The Feds knew Gigi was in the US for a year



With the charges she can get 20 yrs. She'll talk
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Old 07-02-2020, 04:43 PM
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The Feds knew Gigi was in the US for a year



With the charges she can get 20 yrs. She'll talk
IMO, that is a very naive view.

There are obviously a lot of powerful people that need protecting and if she does not want to meet Epstein's fate she'll have been made to understand that she better keep her mouth shut and take her lumps.
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Old 07-02-2020, 04:54 PM
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As Sndral said, it is hard to see how she can make a deal at this point (frankly, I am shocked it took this long to charge her). Trump partied with Epstein but there is no evidence that he was involved in any of these crimes. There is actually more evidence against Clinton (he flew on the private jet), but none of the girls have made any accusations against him.

I'm guessing the Feds wanted Maxwell safely behind bars before they charged her. Otherwise who knows what she would have done, or for that matter any of the rich or powerful men who want to keep her quiet.
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Old 07-02-2020, 04:56 PM
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IMO, that is a very naive view.

There are obviously a lot of powerful people that need protecting and if she does not want to meet Epstein's faith she'll have been made to understand that she better keep her mouth shut and take her lumps.
I agree you with, Maxwell clearly is aware of what happened to Epstein.

I will be very surprised if she talks, she had all the time in the world to come forward and talk but she chose to remain hidden with what she knew.
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Old 07-02-2020, 05:13 PM
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The fact that two of the charges against Maxwell are two counts of perjury tells me that they have enough credible evidence to prosecute those charges.

"Asked Thursday whether the perjury charges might undercut Maxwell’s use as a cooperator, Strauss said she doubted that would be a problem.

“People can go on from there and become cooperators. ... so, I’m not concerned about that. In the event that she were to become a cooperator, I think that we can deal with that,” the prosecutor said."

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...epstein-348053

At this point and with the extent of the charges brought against Ms. Maxwell, I can't honestly see how "spilling the beans" and naming names and pointing fingers elsewhere would aid Maxwell or her defense team of lawyers. My gut feeling is she's going to realize there's no way out for her and life as she knows it is at an end. She won't want to paint targets on her back for a life in prison either. She faces up to 35 years in prison which, at her age, most likely is a life sentence.
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Old 07-02-2020, 05:42 PM
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I agree you with, Maxwell clearly is aware of what happened to Epstein.

I will be very surprised if she talks, she had all the time in the world to come forward and talk but she chose to remain hidden with what she knew.
But then if she's going to prison for the rest of her life she may decide to take others down with her as her life is effectively over now anyway whether she lives or dies. There's also the possibility of a reduced sentance if she gives the FBI information about others.
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Old 07-02-2020, 06:15 PM
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Very happy she cannot escape justice any longer....
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Old 07-02-2020, 06:21 PM
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Maxwell was ordered into the custody of the U.S. Marshals Service to be transported to federal district court in Manhattan for a hearing on whether she should be granted bail pending the outcome of her case.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/02/ghis...rime-case.html
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Old 07-02-2020, 08:34 PM
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I beg to differ. He most certainly should be questioned and should be pleased to do so in order to achieve justice for those abused women. Would you say the same if Princesses Beatrice or Eugenie had been groomed, abused and trafficked as teenagers? Should any friends of their abuser be excused being interviewed for information on the grounds they grew up privileged and entitled?
The threat of being questioned is a greater, more effective and more realistic punishment for a Prince of the blood. He is surely not going to end up in court. The British state will do everything in its power to prevent this from happening. It is unrealistic and limiting to only aim for something that is not going to happen. Leave the threat hanging over him for the rest of his life. For someone accustomed to a life of arrogance and utter entitlement, it makes more impact to know you MIGHT be extradited. That pressure seems the best way to protect the British monarchy and ensure Andrew receives due punishment. He gets to retire to house arrest in a big house in the country with Fergie and the bees and no chance of luxury air travel for fear of being extradited outside the UK. These limits add up to real hardship.
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Old 07-02-2020, 09:02 PM
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I said they mentioned BP. There must be a lot of videos some where.
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Old 07-02-2020, 10:40 PM
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The arrest of Maxwell will be a turning point, one way or another, for Prince Andrew. Maxwell is either going to drag him further into the mire, or her arrest will lessen the pressure on Andrew as public attention turns to one of the worst of Epstein's conspirators surely going down in flames.

I do have a theory that some of what we see with the NY prosecutors office is smoke and mirrors when it comes to Andrew. I have to wonder if he didn't perhaps provide information about the whereabouts of Maxwell, or some details about what she did, in exchange for a quiet immunity agreement, but that the NY prosecutors want to keep this absolutely confidential, so kick up some non-enforceable dust about Andrew. If I were a part of his legal team, that is the tactic I would have taken.

The other alternative theory is that Maxwell negotiated a deal and is now in protective custody.

This does not change Andrew's fate, mind you, as the Royal Family will very likely continue to distance itself from him forever. His legal team will not allow him to be cross examined by American authorities. His BBC interview is proof positive that he cannot handle questioning of any nature - whether he be innocent or guilty. If he keeps his relationship with Fergie and his daughters, as well as his freedom, he should count himself lucky.
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Old 07-03-2020, 12:05 AM
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Who, of all of the people connected to Epstein at this point would be a bigger catch than Ghislaine as far as criminal behavior? I think the buck stops with her. Sure, there are a lot of important men who were in the Epstein orbit, but she and Epstein set up the elaborate exploitation system.
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Old 07-03-2020, 07:27 AM
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DM is running more Gigi stories. This is going to stick to Andrew and the Royal Family.
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Old 07-03-2020, 07:38 AM
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I for one hope there are no more "sweetheart deals", no more justice delayed and denied for the victims, and no more misplaced sympathy for Andrew. He's been coddled and swaddled long enough-it's time to man up and tell all.
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Old 07-03-2020, 07:46 AM
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I for one hope there are no more "sweetheart deals", no more justice delayed and denied for the victims, and no more misplaced sympathy for Andrew. He's been coddled and swaddled long enough-it's time to man up and tell all.
What is he supposed to tell? I think taht Andrew notices very little and while he might be able to add a detail or 2 to the case teh FBI are building, he's not likely to be of much help
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Old 07-03-2020, 07:54 AM
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What is he supposed to tell? I think taht Andrew notices very little and while he might be able to add a detail or 2 to the case teh FBI are building, he's not likely to be of much help
I agree with this. Andrew most certainly wasn't up close and personal at all with the ongoing schemes of Epstein and Maxwell. If anything, he was a fly at the banquet a few times. The most damning thing that could come out right now about Andrew is that he purposely lied about his involvement addressed in his disastrous interview.

It would have been beneath Andrew to actually spend his time and energies to actually work as a main player in a sex trafficking and sex grooming enterprise of underage girls as a major player. He most certainly could have enjoyed the benefits of such an enterprise but to actually become invested in creating it and promoting it? Not Andrew. It wouldn't have centered around him.
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Old 07-03-2020, 10:57 AM
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It will be interesting if Maxwell confirms that Andrew did have sex with Virginia Roberts, can you imagine the outcry?
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Old 07-03-2020, 11:08 AM
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It will be interesting if Maxwell confirms that Andrew did have sex with Virginia Roberts, can you imagine the outcry?
How woudl she know though? She may have set it up, she may have told Virginia to have sex with him, but she's not in the bedroom. The most she could say is that Andrew told her that they'd had sex and even then..
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