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06-01-2010, 06:28 PM
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The Oprah interview was very "cathartic" and I think Sarah is a brave person to face the Erinyes or Furies; but there was a lack of volubility and a bad decision made years ago with her divorce settlement which is making her go round and round in circles; probably a circular neurosis; I saw goodness in her and a lack of malice or desire for vainglory; I think it time she re thinks her divorce settlement and look at it pragmatically.Time to become a "Spartan" in all things.
My best wishes are with her.
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06-01-2010, 06:40 PM
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Good for you Jaya, it is easy to trash someone and say I would do this and that, when you are not in those shoes.
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06-01-2010, 06:42 PM
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Sarah needs to truly understand that there are people who do love her. Even people who don't like her would want things to work out for her in the end. I doubt that there are many people in the world who would like to see her destroyed and ground into the dirt. When she talks about receiving forgiveness from "the universe", that bothers me. The universe is matter, space, and energy. How can she receive forgiveness from something that cannot love, cannot forgive, cannot empathize, and has no compassion? Surely her sister loves her. Andrew certainly doesn't despise her. Her children love her. Sarah talks about how food is her friend; but really, I think that money is her friend--her friend that has become her enemy. She attempts to buy love and make people accept her by spending money on them and trying to make the impression that she's "important." Sarah, you are important, because you're made in the image of the One who made the universe. Things, no matter how glorious or how generously given, do not fill the void in the heart and mind.
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06-01-2010, 06:46 PM
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1) Oprah doesnt get it. Sarah is not The Duchess of York, she is merely the ex wife of The Duke of York. They separated in 1992 and finally divorced in 1996, long enough for Sarah to have made a life of her own. She isnt a royal and has no need to try and live like a royal.
2) Sarah does seem in denial."I did it for a friend", yeah right we all believe that. Starts out wanting 40K and then asks for 500K. Get over yourself Sarah, you arent royal, you are just a common woman so live a quiet common life.
3)Hopefully The Queen will insist she move out of Royal Lodge( a must I think) and perhaps find her a nice cottage in the country away from any royal estate. Perhaps come up with a financial settlement with iron clad confidentiality clause and an insistance on Sarah retiring from public life/no more interviews with anyone.
4) in a perfect world we would never see or hear from this woman again until her daughters weddings
5) she made a mess out of her marriage and has continued to make a mess out of the rest of her life. I have little to no sympathy for her.
6) She is sorry and asks for forgiveness, more likely she is sorry for getting caught.
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06-01-2010, 06:59 PM
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Typical celeb behavior, it's never their fault....
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06-01-2010, 07:22 PM
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I saw the interview; I think she made things much worse for herself by doing it. The best thing she could do for herself and her daughters is to drop out of sight, and get some professional help. It's obvious that for all her many good qualities she is seriously damaged psychologically.
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06-01-2010, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Russophile
Well hey, at least she looks good before being led via Oprah to Madame La Guillotine.
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haha, I don't think anyone could word the outcome of this interview better.
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06-01-2010, 08:22 PM
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Ah Sarah! Do you not understand that when you make a statement then add "But" to it, you negate the whole statement?
"This is part of me, but normally you stuff it behind you, you look the devil in the face, then you forgive"
"Andrew is important to me, but I had been been drinking there"
And she is NOT allowed to talk in the 3rd person! Russo is only allowed to do it!
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06-01-2010, 08:24 PM
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Forgiveness is separating the folly from the essentiality of the individual.If you have no sympathy; compassion or mercy; for her it is more a commentary about you than her.In a perfect world there are no tyrants who say that another not be seen until their daughters weddings as if they are outcasts.That they be cast out of the Royal Lodge to become homeless;Sarah is not the glass in the window that can and will be broken she is the window frame.............
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06-01-2010, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by murphy's mom
I saw the interview; I think she made things much worse for herself by doing it. The best thing she could do for herself and her daughters is to drop out of sight, and get some professional help. It's obvious that for all her many good qualities she is seriously damaged psychologically.
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I have to disagree: Charlie Manson is seriously damaged psychologically ; let's not go bananas- Just why she has to drop out of sight is beyond me .....How can things be worse when you heard her side of it.. If anyone had taken that divorce settlement they would have to be a bit off- kilter.......
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06-01-2010, 08:56 PM
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$20,000 a year is not enough for a Pizza........ or a manicure.... nowadays- I would really luv to know if that is true......
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06-01-2010, 09:13 PM
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Jaya, you are, obviously, a person who has compassion, kindess and sense. The "Royals" and what makes them better than anyone else, aren't any better. They just hide some things with, I am sure, help. Charles is hardly the spirit of virtuousness nor is his present wife. Shake the family tree and a lots of spoiled fruit will fall out. Just as the Lord said, he who is without sin.....
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06-01-2010, 09:21 PM
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THANK YOU SO MUCH JONC93 ! Great job and a great service to people like me who cannot see Oprah !
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06-01-2010, 09:24 PM
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Forgiveness is separating the folly from the essentiality of the individual.If you have no sympathy; compassion or mercy; for her it is more a commentary about you than her.In a perfect world there are no tyrants who say that another not be seen until their daughters weddings as if they are outcasts.That they be cast out of the Royal Lodge to become homeless;Sarah is not the glass in the window that can and will be broken she is the window frame.............
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If she was plain Sarah Ferguson I would have some sympathy for her, but for Sarah, Duchess of York I have none. She tried to sell access to her ex-husband, a public official in his role as UK Special Trade Representative. She endangered his position for money in her pockets. That I am afraid is unforgivable.
While she may be a good mother I think she is a bad example for her daughters on how to live in the public eye. Sarah Ferguson is free to declare bankruptcy,learn to live within her means and rebuild what is left of her life but Sarah, Duchess of York must disappear from public life for the sake of her daughters and the sake of her ex husband who she claims to care about.
As for her divorce settlement, well Andrew was not personally a wealthy man at the time and there was also supposed to be a lump sum paid at that time to buy her a home (never purchased) in addition to the modest annual payment. She should have chosen a much more modest lifestyle and perhaps resumed her career in publishing instead of trying to live like the royal she no longer was. Since Andrew pays his daighters schools fees & upkeep her only real expenses have been her own.
Like I said earlier , she made a mess of her marriage and now has made of mess out of this part of her life. Don't let her ruin her daughters or Andrew's with her misadventures.
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06-01-2010, 09:28 PM
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By saying she is psychologically damaged I did not at all mean to put her in the same category as Charles Manson; I just meant that she has some serious issues, and could benefit from professional help. I also didn't mean to suggest that she should drop out of sight as a means of punishment; it just might give this whole situation a chance to calm down, which I think would benefit everyone. I have to admit I'm not a fan of Sarah's, but my heart did go out to her watching that interview today. She did seem in a great deal of emotional distress.
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06-01-2010, 09:32 PM
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If she's feeling self-hatred, that sounds like depression at the very least. There will be people who will offer her interviews in order to "set the story straight." I hope that she finds the courage to say "no" and do whatever she needs to do to recover.
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By saying she is psychologically damaged I did not at all mean to put her in the same category as Charles Manson; I just meant that she has some serious issues, and could benefit from professional help..
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06-01-2010, 09:42 PM
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I believe the terms Oprah used were "spiritually and morally bankrupt". Maybe her next appearance will be on celebrity rehab, seems right up her alley.
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06-01-2010, 09:55 PM
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I sincerely hope that she's not that self-destructive.
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Maybe her next appearance will be on celebrity rehab, seems right up her alley.
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06-01-2010, 11:01 PM
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I know I read some magazine that had a lavish spread a few years ago about SF's Manhattan penthouse co-op. It was a HUGE place, professionally decorated, and she was rather pleased with herself for being so prosperous.
Now I wonder if she ever owned it or did have it and has lost it already? Did anyone else see this?
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06-01-2010, 11:21 PM
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THANK YOU SO MUCH JONC93 ! Great job and a great service to people like me who cannot see Oprah !
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Your welcome, anytime!  Here's a video off of Oprahs website which shows a small tidbit of the interview.
http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Sarah...opic/oprahshow
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