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Old 10-05-2020, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by REAL COUNTESS View Post
Didn't somewhere in Jacks Biography states that he has a Title and a Coat of Arms it just is not used. He also is related to Eugenie. Maybe he want to use his?
Brooksbank baronetcy. The 1st baronet was succeeded by his eldest grandson William. The current and 3rd is Williams only son Nicholas who was at the wedding with his wife. They have two children but only one son Thomas. William had two younger brothers. His brother Stamp was Jacks paternal grandfather. Stamp had two sons David and George. David is the elder brother and has two sons one who did the reading at the wedding. So Jack is currently sixth in line behind second cousin Thomas, uncle David, his two cousins and then his father.

This is the coat of arms

As for related they are related through his paternal grandmother. Stamps wife Celia Coke was a granddaughter of Thomas Coke, Earl of Leicester. Thomas was married twice. Eugenie is descended from his daughter Julia from his first wife. Jack is descended from his son John from his second wife. He is also related to the Oglivy family as Angus Oglivy is descended from Thomas' heir also Thomas, the third Earl (the 3rd Earl was Angus' maternal grandfather).

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Old 10-05-2020, 07:15 AM
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Situations where the use of a personal or family coat of arms would be expected are few and far between today. If it is true that Jack Brooksbank has never used his inherited coat of arms, I would guess it is not so much a planned choice as a lack of opportunity.

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Old 10-05-2020, 04:39 PM
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Very interesting about the titles.

Some suggestions that baby is arriving in February.

If Eugenie is only 3 months along, then March is also a possibility. I can't tell by looking at her; she doesn't have a big tummy, just a fuller figure.

Prince Andrew - 19th February, 1960
Princess Eugenie - 23rd March, 1990.
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Old 10-05-2020, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Tatiana Maria View Post
Situations where the use of a personal or family coat of arms would be expected are few and far between today. If it is true that Jack Brooksbank has never used his inherited coat of arms, I would guess it is not so much a planned choice as a lack of opportunity.

It's true there are very few occasions. I was thinking really of his wedding where he didn't use it in the order of service but Eugenie used her personal one, which she doesn't often have the opportunity to officially show off either.

In contrast Kate used the new Middleton CoA in the order of service, although Meghan did not use hers so I don't think we can draw any conclusions on whether his branch of the family ever use it.
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Soon we have November, wonder is the Queen has her Christmas lunch for the Family this year, so we will see Eugenie and Jack with baby bump make three there, hopefully so Beatrice and Edo. I am really excided for this little bundle of joy to come into this world. No matter what is said about A/S, they really did a great job with their daughters.
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we dont realy know what will happen for Christmas this year....the queen may just have a small Christmas wiht a few family members

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