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Old 10-05-2020, 05:30 AM
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Didn't somewhere in Jacks Biography states that he has a Title and a Coat of Arms it just is not used. He also is related to Eugenie. Maybe he want to use his?
Brooksbank baronetcy. The 1st baronet was succeeded by his eldest grandson William. The current and 3rd is Williams only son Nicholas who was at the wedding with his wife. They have two children but only one son Thomas. William had two younger brothers. His brother Stamp was Jacks paternal grandfather. Stamp had two sons David and George. David is the elder brother and has two sons one who did the reading at the wedding. So Jack is currently sixth in line behind second cousin Thomas, uncle David, his two cousins and then his father.

This is the coat of arms

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooksbank_baronets

As for related they are related through his paternal grandmother. Stamps wife Celia Coke was a granddaughter of Thomas Coke, Earl of Leicester. Thomas was married twice. Eugenie is descended from his daughter Julia from his first wife. Jack is descended from his son John from his second wife. He is also related to the Oglivy family as Angus Oglivy is descended from Thomas' heir also Thomas, the third Earl (the 3rd Earl was Angus' maternal grandfather).
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Old 10-05-2020, 07:15 AM
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Situations where the use of a personal or family coat of arms would be expected are few and far between today. If it is true that Jack Brooksbank has never used his inherited coat of arms, I would guess it is not so much a planned choice as a lack of opportunity.
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Old 10-05-2020, 04:39 PM
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Very interesting about the titles.

Some suggestions that baby is arriving in February.

If Eugenie is only 3 months along, then March is also a possibility. I can't tell by looking at her; she doesn't have a big tummy, just a fuller figure.

Prince Andrew - 19th February, 1960
Princess Eugenie - 23rd March, 1990.
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Old 10-05-2020, 04:55 PM
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Situations where the use of a personal or family coat of arms would be expected are few and far between today. If it is true that Jack Brooksbank has never used his inherited coat of arms, I would guess it is not so much a planned choice as a lack of opportunity.

It's true there are very few occasions. I was thinking really of his wedding where he didn't use it in the order of service but Eugenie used her personal one, which she doesn't often have the opportunity to officially show off either.



In contrast Kate used the new Middleton CoA in the order of service, although Meghan did not use hers so I don't think we can draw any conclusions on whether his branch of the family ever use it.
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Old 10-26-2020, 04:18 PM
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Soon we have November, wonder is the Queen has her Christmas lunch for the Family this year, so we will see Eugenie and Jack with baby bump make three there, hopefully so Beatrice and Edo. I am really excided for this little bundle of joy to come into this world. No matter what is said about A/S, they really did a great job with their daughters.
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Old 10-26-2020, 06:02 PM
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we dont realy know what will happen for Christmas this year....the queen may just have a small Christmas wiht a few family members
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Old 10-31-2020, 04:03 AM
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I wonder if the family members will just stay in their own homes; and have a get together next year. Maybe when the Queen celebrates her 95th; Philip will be a 100 in June. Is there a poll for Eugenie: BOY OR GIRL?
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Old 10-31-2020, 04:13 AM
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I dont think the queen will host her usual Christmas in the face of covid. Not a great example for her people who are in various states of lock down. Extended family with multiple households isnt encouraged. Perhaps she will do as the summer, and see them in small groups over the season.

I could see the Yorks spending Christmas as a family at royal lodge this year. The Cambridges may take the chance to spend Christmas with the Middletons.

Any celebration for Queen and Philip will depend on the virus at the time.

At this rate, other then shopping trips or such when we see her, I dont expect to see much of Eugenie. I hope we will see some baby photos when born.
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Old 10-31-2020, 04:35 AM
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Just a reminder that we can discuss the Royal Family's Christmas arrangements in the https://www.theroyalforums.com/forum...0-a-15608.html thread.
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I wonder if the family members will just stay in their own homes; and have a get together next year. Maybe when the Queen celebrates her 95th; Philip will be a 100 in June. Is there a poll for Eugenie: BOY OR GIRL?
2021 is quite an exciting year with these three events. Under normal circumstances (i.e. pandemic lockdowns), I think there might be photographs of the four generation of the Royal Family. However, at this point, I don't even know if there will be "official" photographs of Baby Brooksbank christening. According to Vanity Fair, there were no official photograph of Savannah, Isla, Mia and Lena's christening. Of course, there is a possibility that things could be different for Princess Eugenie, as she is the "blood princess" or even just making the special occasion of the year, where The Queen celebrate her 95th birthday and Philip's 100th birthday.

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/202...ooksbank-plans

I don't think there is a poll for Eugenie: Boy or Girl, but there is a thread for guessing Baby Brooksbank's Names and Godparents.
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Old 10-31-2020, 03:04 PM
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Indeed, posts about prospective names for the baby have been moved to the https://www.theroyalforums.com/forum...ild-47933.html thread.
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Happy news!
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The baby is due in early 2021, so Jan. and Feb. I would count on that, maybe? but it would be a very nice surprise if he or she would be the first baby born in 2021 Jan 1st at one minute after midnight, now this is wishful thinking on my part. I also hope they have a little boy Eugenie's parents had two girl, Jack und her need a boy. Also my wishful thinking. But nothing is more important then a healthy little bundle if joy. I wish them the best.
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Old 11-07-2020, 08:27 PM
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The baby is due in early 2021, so Jan. and Feb. I would count on that, maybe? but it would be a very nice surprise if he or she would be the first baby born in 2021 Jan 1st at one minute after midnight, now this is wishful thinking on my part. I also hope they have a little boy Eugenie's parents had two girl, Jack und her need a boy. Also my wishful thinking. But nothing is more important then a healthy little bundle if joy. I wish them the best.
On the flip side Jacks parents only have sons and they already have a grandson. And the York’s have a step grandson.

End of January is earliest I imagine the baby. If it was due near the new year it would be worded differently.
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Old 11-08-2020, 04:04 AM
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No one needs to have a boy or a girl. They may have private preferences but all they really "need" is a successful pregnancy and healthy baby. Princess Anne has a troupe of little blonde granddaughters and I doubt she feels like she's lacking anything.

There's no title to pass along to a son even that situation is out.
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Old 11-08-2020, 04:47 AM
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The baby is due in early 2021, so Jan. and Feb. I would count on that, maybe? but it would be a very nice surprise if he or she would be the first baby born in 2021 Jan 1st at one minute after midnight, now this is wishful thinking on my part. I also hope they have a little boy Eugenie's parents had two girl, Jack und her need a boy. Also my wishful thinking. But nothing is more important then a healthy little bundle if joy. I wish them the best.
Do you mean Jack and Eugenie need a boy? I dont know why....
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The Queen and Duke of Edinburgh have five great-granddaughters and three great-grandsons, so with the boy the numbers would "line up" :)
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Thank you Biri.
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Old 11-08-2020, 02:38 PM
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Well the York/Brooksbank family are 2 grandsons to 0 granddaughters. So a granddaughter would help balance the numbers.

It's not about evening out numbers. No one Needs a son or a daughter. They need a healthy baby.
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Well the York/Brooksbank family are 2 grandsons to 0 granddaughters. So a granddaughter would help balance the numbers.

It's not about evening out numbers. No one Needs a son or a daughter. They need a healthy baby.
I thought Thomas Brooksbank has only one son.

If the baby would be born with some disability they would love him/her just as much as the healthy one.
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