Prince Andrew, Duke of York News and Events 8: Sep 2022 -

[Granada]

Not buying this attempt at a sob story either, "allegedly" being put out by Andrews friends.
I believe like others here, that The Queen and Philip set up generous Trust Funds for Anne, Andrew and Edward. But I do also bet that dim Andrew also thought he would receive a sizable bequest upon her death.

With all the never ending drama involving shady deals and associations with dodgy People, ON TOP of the scandalous Epstein horror show, *maybe* The Queen thought better and decided to stop enabling his delusions of grandeur and quest for perks. "Rein" Andrew finally in. With ALL the other drama her grandson was providing, She wanted to tamp down questionable behavior and speculation about enabling prolific spending by Andrew.
Cut off the discretionary cash flow.

When Andrew took over Royal Lodge he NEVER imagined he wouldn't be a Full-time Working Royal with subsidies. Especially the Security. He had his sidelines "deals" when he was UK Roving Trade Ambassador too. After his questionable behavior, and Epstein however, he was relieved of that job in 2011. He STILL figured he could always fund Royal Lodge. That doesn't seem to be the case now.

He then set up Pitch@Palace, to encourage entrepreneurs. At Buckingham Palace. Nice.
I'm sure, there was a very profitable sideline gravy train incorporated in there for him. He was forced to disband that venture after the Emily Maitlis Interview fiasco. His profitable money sideline businesses are GONE.

Its obvious from the ridiculous "Indian healing Guru" story, that Andrew spends an ABSOLUTE fortune on questionable People and activities. Probably JUST the tip of the iceberg. Good grief, HOW out of touch is he ????

Plus Sarah said just last week on her media blitz in The States, in response to a question, that Andrew doesn't take any taxpayers money......And that She was "in a position to support Andrew and the rest of my Family thru my work". Why the Girls ? Beatrice's husband seems extremely well off and Eugenie's husband has certainly used his royal connections to get great Jobs too.

Seems another "brag" by Sarah.
Looks like Andrew is going to have to tighten his belt. Lots of People who are in dire economic straits will be appalled over the Guru story AND The amount of money The Queen left Charles. Even I'm flabbergasted.

Is that all Charles's to do with, as he sees fit ? No taxes either. On top of his OWN private fortune from The Duchy of Cornwall when he was POW ?

 

[Denville]

of course Charlee's money is his to do with as he sees fit. HE has usually used it to help his charities and his sons, when they needed expenses paid. he will be helping out his elderly cousins who have dedicated their lives to royal duties, as they get older and retire. He will help Andrew, but I dont think he will knock himself out to give Andrew a lavish lifestyle. However he will have a home and security and an adequate income.

 

[Toledo]

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Andrés, a headache for Carlos III: a(...)decision and a bill to assume
If Andrew was the darling of his mother, Queen Elizabeth II, with his brother Charles III, things have changed

 

[Mirabel]

I always thought Andrew would have a rude awakening once Charles succeeded. It was unlikely that Charles would be as indulgent as the late Queen was.

Now Andrew will need to adjust his expectations.

 

[Denville]

we dont know what money Andrew has. or what Charles will allow him or if he will stay in RL or move somwerhe smaller.

 

[Granada]

Denville, all I'm saying that's ALOT of money to "help his charities and his sons". ALOT.

 

[Denville]

Denville, all I'm saying that's ALOT of money to "help his charities and his sons". ALOT.

What is your point? Charles is fairly rich. He has the Duchy of Lancaster now, and has private wealth. he has used his previous income to pay part of his sons' expenses, and help his charities. Now as King, he will have to help the elderly cousins, who were helped previously by the queen.... Im sure he will still give to his charities and try to raise more money. and he will help his siblings if they need it. I think that by and large he used his previous income fairly responsibility and didnt spend it all on chocolate for himself, so why do you think he's not going to spend his new income sensibly?
But the Duchy of Lanc is money for Charles to spend, just as the Duchy of Cornwall income was his to spend when he was POW. There are no restrictions on how he spends it, though there may be some guidelines. But I dont think that Charles is going to buy thousands of balloons iwth his money and float them over BP every night. so Im not sure what your question is?

 

[Toledo]

I always thought Andrew would have a rude awakening once Charles succeeded. It was unlikely that Charles would be as indulgent as the late Queen was.

Now Andrew will need to adjust his expectations.

I still haven't recovered on the late Queen using her money to pay for an Andrew settlement. Imagine the amount it would have provided if invested for long term to use toward future expenses.

 

[Princess_Eleanor]

Denville, all I'm saying that's ALOT of money to "help his charities and his sons". ALOT.

That's not £650 million (estimated) in cash, this includes the Balmoral & Sandringham estates, Queen Elizabeth's private jewellery and art collections, antiques, horses, cars etc.

If they had to pay inheritance tax on this, they might have to sell off jewelry etc, that's why it was established that the vast part of the inheritance should pass from monarch to monarch and no inheritance tax would have too be paid.

I'm sure Anne, Andrew & Edward each received a seizable sum, but perhaps Andrew thinks it's very little in comparison to around 650 million worth of real estate, jewellery etc. Does he seriously think that Charles should hand him an equal share of that in the form of a pay-out?!

In most royal families, the majority of the wealth is handed from monarch to monarch and that is done because otherwise, in a couple of generations' time it would all have been split and most of the estates and jewellery would have left the main line.

 

[Lilyflo]

Is that all Charles's to do with, as he sees fit ? No taxes either. On top of his OWN private fortune from The Duchy of Cornwall when he was POW ?

Charles won't have to pay inheritance tax on the money left by QE2 (monarch to monarch) but he will continue to pay income tax voluntarily as QE2 did.

It appears to me that Charles has always invested his money wisely into the Duchy of Cornwall and his charities, always to the benefit of people and the environment. I doubt he'll change now that he's even richer and we'll see the money being put to good use, including supporting his relatives according to their needs (if not their desires!).

Andrew, however, has always appeared to me to be greedy, profligate and unconcerned about others (apart from his immediate family). He's as popular as a dose of shingles so hardly anyone will be interested in his alleged whinging about lack of funds.

 

[Mbruno]

Seems like Andrew was able to sweet talk his mother into paying for a lot of his personal costs on expenses - this makes me think money may certainly be a factor in the Royal Lodge stories. I dread to think what else he asked the late Queen to pay - his legal bills for sure and that will have been a heavy chunk of cash!

That is actually one of the reasons why, at least in America, there was sympathy for the Sussexes' quest "for financial independence".

I don't know if Andrew would have made it on his own, but, in practice, joining the armed forces was the only career he was realistically allowed to pursue as the second in line to the throne at the time and, in the UK, as in many other countries, being a Navy officer is not exactly a particularly profitable career. It will give you a comfortable middle-class life and (probably) a guaranteed pension, but that's it.

I think it was Prince Laurent of Belgium who said it, when the Belgian Parliament cut his stipend, but there is a valid argument in saying that "spares" who are supposed to be working royals are not allowed in practice to have a career in the private sector that would make them independent and, yet, when they grow older, move down the line of succession, and become "expendable" so to speak, they get a lot of criticism for expecting their brother or father/mother to support them. I don't blame Harry and Meghan for example for not wanting to be in the same situation.

I know some royals, even in the old system, managed to find loopholes to circumvent those problems. The Princess Royal, I think, has her horse business, although I don't know how much she can rely on that for a living. But maybe Andrew was never that resourceful and the business connections he tried to have after leaving the Navy appear to have been shady.

 

[Denville]

I still haven't recovered on the late Queen using her money to pay for an Andrew settlement. Imagine the amount it would have provided if invested for long term to use toward future expenses.

Seriously? Andrew is her son, her favourite son, and of course she was going to help him. SHe had a lot of money, of course she would spend it on avoiding any further scandal.

 

[Denville]

Charles won't have to pay inheritance tax on the money left by QE2 (monarch to monarch) but he will continue to pay income tax voluntarily as QE2 did.

It appears to me that Charles has always invested his money wisely into the Duchy of Cornwall and his charities, always to the benefit of people and the environment. I doubt he'll change now that he's even richer and we'll see the money being put to good use, including supporting his relatives according to their needs (if not their desires!).

A.

well yes, I think that mostly Chalres has been responsible in how he spent his money. He's careful. He likes to live well himself but he has worked to improve the income from the Duchy of C, and is generous but canny in how he hands out his money to relatives, charities etc. He paid the furlough money for his employees, during the pandemic, he has supported his boys, while they were both working royals, and he gave Harry starter money to make a new life in the US. I think he will continue to be responsilbe how he spends money now as King.. he wotn leave Andrew short, though he may impose some restrictions on him. But Andrew probalby cant earn any more money, and he is not able to go on as a working royal, so Ch will take that into account.

 

[Denville]

It's such a bad look though when our royals are dodging paying tax (legally or not) on vast sums of, let's face it, unearned millions whilst so many people are struggling to heat their homes. It's actually immoral and the Queen was allegedly this deeply Christian woman, what parts of the Gospels was she not reading?

what exactly are you accusing the queen of?

 

[sophie25]

what exactly are you accusing the queen of?

Hypocrisy, of the highest order.

 

[Denville]

Hypocrisy, of the highest order.

well most people are hypocritcal to some degree, but I can't quite see what you are accusing the queen of doing that is particularly hypocritical.

 

[SLV]

That is actually one of the reasons why, at least in America, there was sympathy for the Sussexes' quest "for financial independence".

I don't know if Andrew would have made it on his own, but, in practice, joining the armed forces was the only career he was realistically allowed to pursue as the second in line to the throne at the time and, in the UK, as in many other countries, being a Navy officer is not exactly a particularly profitable career. It will give you a comfortable middle-class life and (probably) a guaranteed pension, but that's it.

I think it was Prince Laurent of Belgium who said it, when the Belgian Parliament cut his stipend, but there is a valid argument in saying that "spares" who are supposed to be working royals are not allowed in practice to have a career in the private sector that would make them independent and, yet, when they grow older, move down the line of succession, and become "expendable" so to speak, they get a lot of criticism for expecting their brother or father/mother to support them. I don't blame Harry and Meghan for example for not wanting to be in the same situation.

I know some royals, even in the old system, managed to find loopholes to circumvent those problems. The Princess Royal, I think, has her horse business, although I don't know how much she can rely on that for a living. But maybe Andrew was never that resourceful and the business connections he tried to have after leaving the Navy appear to have been shady.

I really don't understand that situation.
Why can't second, third etc children get a job, except for the militairy and have to be financed?
The Dutch King Willem-Alexanders two younger brothers were expected to get an education and jobs. And they have (had in case of Friso). The same will be expected of Amalia's two sisters.
Why couldn't the same be the case in the UK and Belgium?

 

[Denville]

I really don't understand that situation.
Why can't second, third etc children get a job, except for the militairy and have to be financed?
The Dutch King Willem-Alexanders two younger brothers were expected to get an education and jobs. And they have (had in case of Friso). The same will be expected of Amalia's two sisters.
Why couldn't the same be the case in the UK and Belgium?

Because at the time when the queen's children were growing up, the only career was the military. But times have changed..
and in hte UK, at the time the queens children were young, there was a large bunch of royals working and it was expected that after some years in the military, they would retire and go into royal duties.

 

[sophie25]

well most people are hypocritcal to some degree, but I can't quite see what you are accusing the queen of doing that is particularly hypocritical.

Well when you are someone who is the head of a Christian church and who speaks about Christ's message at least once a year (invariably on Christmas Day) who then proceeds to dodge paying taxes that would make a huge difference to the lives of those less fortunate then I think that does take hypocrisy to another level.

 

[Denville]

Well when you are someone who is the head of a Christian church and who speaks about Christ's message at least once a year (invariably on Christmas Day) who then proceeds to dodge paying taxes that would make a huge difference to the lives of those less fortunate then I think that does take hypocrisy to another level.

what evidence is there that the queen was dodging taxes?

 

[sophie25]

what evidence is there that the queen was dodging taxes?

I'm referring to reports that she left her fortune direct to Charles as cash passing from Monarch to Monarch isn't taxed.

 

[Denville]

I'm referring to reports that she left her fortune direct to Charles as cash passing from Monarch to Monarch isn't taxed.

All monarchs do that, so that the family fortune remains intact. She paid taxes on her income, and so do the rest of the family. A lot of the wealth is not hers to sell.

 

[Granada]

Agreed Sophie25, I think that there is going to be different Public "feeling-sentiment" towards the vast sums of money available to, and lifestyles of The Royals Family now that the Queen is dead. Charles doesn't have the respect or love that People felt for this grand woman.
The disgraceful and sordid antics, along with the greed of Andrew and Harry have done The Institution, as well as the Family no favors.
Especially in these increasingly difficult Economic times.

Palatial Royal Lodge Estate for controversial, creepy and entitled Andrew and Sarah ? Perhaps that should be rethought.

The days of dissipated and corrupt extravagant lifestyles being condoned surreptitiously by The Family are over. They knew about nefarious Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell association with Andrew in the early 2000's and did nothing to stop it.

All I'm saying going forward The Family, under Charles and Camilla as Monarch, are going to have to tread lightly. Luckily William and Kate seem popular and steady hands, but I think the media coverage of the wealth of The Windsors in today's papers could cause backlash and be problematic.

Andrew's whining from his 30 rooms, 21 acre estate, complete with Staff, separate Cottages, fancy Gardens, EVEN its own Church ! His expensive cars and love of riding the creme de la creme of Horses in Windsor, accompanied by Grooms, as People struggle with heating and electricity bills ? Yeah, great look.

It isn't going to go over well and adverse attention might be directed at OTHER members of the Family too......

 

[Denville]

AAll I'm saying going forward The Family, under

Andrew's whining from his 30 rooms, 21 acre estate, complete with separate Cottages, gardens, EVEN its own Church !

It isn't going to go over well and adverse attention might be directed at OTHER members of the Family too......

it IS Andrew's house. He paid for a long lease on it and if he can pay the expenses and maintain the house he has a right to keep it.

 

[sophie25]

All monarchs do that, so that the family fortune remains intact. She paid taxes on her income, and so do the rest of the family. A lot of the wealth is not hers to sell.

I'm sorry but this family is hugely wealthy and they still would be even if they paid the taxes they try to avoid. It's just pure greed and I'm not suggesting they are the only ones who do it but not everyone in that position preaches to us about Christianity with the Bible laid out in front of them on TV every year. So yes, massive hypocrisy, and no doubt our new Supreme Governor of the Church will be exactly the same.

 

[Denville]

I'm sorry but this family is hugely wealthy and they still would be even if they paid the taxes they try to avoid. It's just pure greed and I'm not suggesting they are the only ones who do it but not everyone in that position preaches to us about Christianity with the Bible laid out in front of them on TV every year. So yes, massive hypocrisy, and no doubt our new Supreme Governor of the Church will be exactly the same.

Most people try and avoid inheritance tax because it is a heavy tax. I dont know what Charles will do, but so far he hasn't tried to avoid it, we' shall see when he dies. But if you are going to lash out at everyone who tries to avoid paying a lot of tax, the RF are not the only ones who do it. So clearly you want a socialist state, adn it woudl be better to work for one.
I thought that these posts were about Charles, who has by and large spent his income sensibly, paid taxes, as the queen has done, and tried to use his money adn his social position to help others.

 

[Zonk]

Let's stay on topic...Andrew's Current Events....this is all speculative as information regarding the Queen's will has NOT been made public.

 

[Meee]

it IS Andrew's house. He paid for a long lease on it and if he can pay the expenses and maintain the house he has a right to keep it.

I agree. Had he not looked after Royal Lodge or failed to carry out the refurbishments that were required as part of the lease, it would be a different story, but there’s no suggestion Andrew has breached the agreement in any way.

Even Prince Philip must have realised that it was Andrew’s house - I doubt he was at all OK with Sarah moving in there, but until the lease is up, it being crown property is irrelevant.

Who would Charles want to move in there anyway? Surely William and Catherine wouldn’t, it would go against them after they were seen as responsible and in touch with the general public for not moving somewhere massively bigger than they needed. It just seems an odd thing to do, his popularity seems to have grown since he became King so he doesn’t need to ‘impress’ a section of the public by shuffling his brother out.

 

[Denville]

I agree. Had he not looked after Royal Lodge or failed to carry out the refurbishments that were required as part of the lease, it would be a different story, but there’s no suggestion Andrew has breached the agreement in any way.

Even Prince Philip must have realised that it was Andrew’s house - I doubt he was at all OK with Sarah moving in there, but until the lease is up, it being crown property is irrelevant.

Who would Charles want to move in there anyway? Surely William and Catherine wouldn’t, it would go against them after they were seen as responsible and in touch with the general public for not moving somewhere massively bigger than they needed. It just seems an odd thing to do, his popularity seems to have grown since he became King so he doesn’t need to ‘impress’ a section of the public by shuffling his brother out.

He might be helping Andrew wiht expenses and does not want to continue to pay for him indefinitely in a big house Like RL. He could rent the house out for a commerical rent, in due course.

 

[iceflower]

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