Prince Andrew, Duke of York Current Events 7: February 2015

[tommy100]

A slightly more balanced article from the Telegraph maybe

https://archive.is/dwRqL

King Charles will not leave his brother "homeless or penniless" it is understood, as the Duke of York fears being forced out of the Royal Lodge.
Prince Andrew is set to have his £249,000 annual allowance cut from April. He has been relying upon it since he lost public money upon leaving frontline royal duties.
He is telling friends that this will leave him unable to maintain the 98-acre Windsor property.
But while the monarch is on a drive to slim down spending, a royal source told the Telegraph: “The King is not going to leave his brother homeless or penniless.”
The private annual grant, from the Duchy of Lancaster, was previously overseen by the late Queen.

[Denville]

I can't imagine why anyone would think that he will leave Andrew homeless or penniless. It is really silly how people think that every story in the tabloids is true

[hereditarytitles]

Originally Posted by Granada

I can't see Andrew moving out of Royal Lodge just yet. He has the long lease on it and I believe certainly the money to fund it too.
I'm sure he as well as his siblings (except Charles) were VERY well provided for in both his Parents wills. On top of whatever money he had stashed away from dodgy deals with shady characters and despots for decades.

Lets not forget that after Beatrice and Eugenie *lost* their official taxpayer funded 24\7 Protection Officers in 2011, they were still seen with Security. Andrew was furious about that loss, feeling that it was a *demotion* to their HRH profile. It was then being picked up privately, by Andrew it was assumed.

For a cost *somewhere* with reports being 5 hundred thousand to around a million pounds yearly. For years......
I believe after both girls married, and coincidentally Andrews *problems* with Epstein AGAIN started being front page news, the Security stopped.

I have always felt that Andrew had more money than was alleged. Much more.
He got 15 million pounds for the sale of decrepit Sunninghill Park in 2007 ( a wedding *gift* from the Queen) which WAS 4 million over the asking price, paid by yet another one of his uber rich, but shady "friends".

I think Andrew has ALWAYS had these very profitable side line business too, dating back to his UK Trade Envoy-Ambassador days, which do to The Epstein debacle he had to give up in 2011. I'm sure his then next venture, " Pitch@ThePalace" also had a profitable "sideline" for him too. Until in the aftermath of the Emily Maitlis Interview had had to give that up too.

He is arrogant, spoiled and entitled. I find him loathsome. So much privilege, so much ego.

Very well said, Granada! That is exactly how I see it, relying on newspaper-sources.

I read that Charles is looking thru the Crowns expenses and privileges that his mother in her very long reign never got into.

He knows that he cannot go on in the same manner, with the country having so many problemes (as all European countries have ) and as an intelligent man (so I think about him) he will do everything to save the monarchy, making it more transparent, saving money where it is possible, to show the people in Britain that he is interested in their issues and also knows how privileged the Royal family still is.

[Denville]

He will still make sure that his siblings who are not young and his cousins, who are even older, will still be able to live in reasonable comfort, since thy have dedicated their lives to the throne. Andrew isn't anyone's favourite royal but he dd do a lot of engagements, and now he can't work for the Crown any more and he probably can't do business deals either.

[Lilyflo]

Originally Posted by tommy100

A slightly more balanced article from the Telegraph maybe

https://archive.is/dwRqL

King Charles will not leave his brother "homeless or penniless" it is understood, as the Duke of York fears being forced out of the Royal Lodge.
Prince Andrew is set to have his £249,000 annual allowance cut from April. He has been relying upon it since he lost public money upon leaving frontline royal duties.
He is telling friends that this will leave him unable to maintain the 98-acre Windsor property.
But while the monarch is on a drive to slim down spending, a royal source told the Telegraph: “The King is not going to leave his brother homeless or penniless.”
The private annual grant, from the Duchy of Lancaster, was previously overseen by the late Queen.

What a ridiculous notion that Andrew would ever be "homeless or penniless". He's very wealthy (unless he's mysteriously lost all his money). He had £15 million pounds for the house in Sunningdale that his mother bought him. He isn't required to pay anything for his ex wife's expenses. His daughters are married. His mother was The Queen and she has undoubtedly left him money, as his grandmother would have. He lives in a mansion and is allegedly griping that he can't afford to maintain it without a £250,000 annual handout from his brother. It's about time he grew up isn't it? He should downsize to a property that he can afford to maintain eg a smaller house on the Windsor estate or an apartment in KP. He'd still be living in luxury with staff looking after his every need. These 'friends' who supposedly leaked this story in order to elicit sympathy for him are on another planet if they think the British public would side with Andrew over Charles. Perhaps they're the same idiots who staged the hilarious photo in the bath with the face masks!

[muriel]

Originally Posted by Lilyflo

What a ridiculous notion that Andrew would ever be "homeless or penniless". He's very wealthy (unless he's mysteriously lost all his money). He had £15 million pounds for the house in Sunningdale that his mother bought him. He isn't required to pay anything for his ex wife's expenses. His daughters are married. His mother was The Queen and she has undoubtedly left him money, as his grandmother would have. He lives in a mansion and is allegedly griping that he can't afford to maintain it without a £250,000 annual handout from his brother. It's about time he grew up isn't it? He should downsize to a property that he can afford to maintain eg a smaller house on the Windsor estate or an apartment in KP. He'd still be living in luxury with staff looking after his every need. These 'friends' who supposedly leaked this story in order to elicit sympathy for him are on another planet if they think the British public would side with Andrew over Charles. Perhaps they're the same idiots who staged the hilarious photo in the bath with the face masks!

I am sure if Andrew wanted to downsize, a suitable home on the Windsor estate could be found for him.

One possibility might be for the Wales family to move into a part of the castle, and Andrew & Sarah move to Adelaide Cottage.

[Lilyflo]

Originally Posted by Denville

He will still make sure that his siblings who are not young and his cousins, who are even older, will still be able to live in reasonable comfort, since thy have dedicated their lives to the throne. Andrew isn't anyone's favourite royal but he dd do a lot of engagements, and now he can't work for the Crown any more and he probably can't do business deals either.

The Gloucesters and Kents haven't lived at their country estates for decades so they aren't expecting handouts to maintain old mansions and acres of land. Presumable, Princess Anne's estate is self-funding as it's a working farm and I believe the Wessexes lease part of Bagshot Park, which brings in income either for them or the crown estates (I'm not sure).

[tommy100]

Its called living within your means - not something Andrew has ever seemed very good at.

Anne runs Gatcombe to pay for itself, she has said herself that they are lucky if Gatcombe breaks even from all the eventing, farming and other events they host on the estate.

Edward and Sophie lease out (or use to) the stable block to a pharmaceutical company which left them with only £10,000 to find to pay the annual rent on Bagshot.

The big difference I suspect is Anne is very self sufficient and modest so will ensure she can run her estate on her own terms - after all, unlike the leased Bagshot or Royal Lodge she has a real interest in its future as it is her children's inheritance (Royal Lodge could be lived in by Beatrice & Eugenie under the terms of the lease as I understand but if Andrew is complaining of struggling there is little hang they'll want to take on a huge mansion)

Sophie and Edward seem more sensible than Andrew by a long way so have likely ensured they are as secure financially with Bagshot as they can be. Likewise they at least can rent out parts of the estate, e.g. the stable block like they do now, to raise income.

I'm sure all the Queen's children has sizeable personal wealth that brings in an income - trust funds etc. Of course now their mother is no longer with them they can not rely on money from their brother in the form of "personal allowances" though I'm sure they receive expenses and some form of personal compensation for the work they do (Andrew no longer does work for the family firm so its fair he no longer receives that element IMO). The Duchy of Lancaster made a £24million surplus last financial year - all (or nearly all) of which goes to the Sovereign so I'm sure Charles - as the article from the Times stated - won't see any of his family homeless.

[Denville]

Andrew can't make money out of royal Lodge, its on the Windsor estate and probably the terms of hte lease and his security needs forbid it. No evidence that he cant afford the place but it seems unlikely that he will move anywhere else on the Windsor area. Im sure it would be possible to shut up some of the rooms and manage in a smaller area, if necessary

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Lilyflo

The Gloucesters and Kents haven't lived at their country estates for decades so they aren't expecting handouts to maintain old mansions and acres of land. Presumable, Princess Anne's estate is self-funding as it's a working farm and I believe the Wessexes lease part of Bagshot Park, which brings in income either for them or the crown estates (I'm not sure).

Since the Kents and Gloucesters have worked all thier lives almost for the RF, and have had to sell up property to pay death duties, Im sure that Charles has promised them financial support for the rest of their lives.

[iceflower]

The Duke of York during a morning ride yesterday, February 20:


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[irish_royalist]

Originally Posted by iceflower

The Duke of York during a morning ride yesterday, February 20:


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Surely there is SOMETHING he can be photographed doing other than riding??

[JR76]

Originally Posted by irish_royalist

Surely there is SOMETHING he can be photographed doing other than riding??

When out riding is probably the only occasion when Prince Andrew is doing something that's visible for the cameras. Good for him

[Alison H]

Sometimes there are photos of him driving his car. I'm sure no-one wants to see them, and I'm sure he doesn't want them to be taken.

[Lilyflo]

Originally Posted by Denville

Since the Kents and Gloucesters have worked all thier lives almost for the RF, and have had to sell up property to pay death duties, Im sure that Charles has promised them financial support for the rest of their lives.

That's my point - they don't require the kind of income needed to maintain mansions and estates. They live financially modest lives (for royals) and so could Andrew.

[Alison H]

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/king-asks-...090601838.html

The Telegraph reports that the King has asked the Sussexes to vacate Frogmore Cottage so that Prince Andrew can move in there and cut his living expenses.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Lilyflo

That's my point - they don't require the kind of income needed to maintain mansions and estates. They live financially modest lives (for royals) and so could Andrew.

Andrew is the queen's son, and he has the lease on Royal Lodge. He needs to live in a protected area, unlike hte Kents and Gloucesters.

[Princess_Eleanor]

Originally Posted by Denville

Andrew is the queen's son, and he has the lease on Royal Lodge. He needs to live in a protected area, unlike hte Kents and Gloucesters.

The Kents and Gloucesters live at Kensington Palace and St James's Palace, those are also protected. Andrew could certainly have an apartment at one of the Palaces, just like the Kents and Gloucesters, and it would be protected, but it would be a lot smaller than Royal Lodge and that's not what he wants.

Now Charles might want him to move into Frogmore Cottage? He certainly won't like that either. But it won't be his choice as long as Charles is the one paying for his lifestyle.

[Curryong]

Andrew signed a 75 year lease on Royal Lodge in 2003, and has reputedly spent around seven million pounds on maintenance and improvements to the building and grounds in the two decades since. Is King Charles going to reimburse him for that?

[Moonmaiden23]

Endgame is to move William, Kate and their kids into Royal Lodge. I have believed this ever since they relocated to Windsor shortly before HMQ's passing.

What will be interesting is if Andrew refuses to budge, especially if Charles is not planning to reimburse the considerable $$ Andrew put into refurbishment of the place.