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Old 04-21-2021, 05:12 PM
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He's got to have something top of the line to drive from Royal Lodge over to the stables at Windsor Castle to be "seen" riding a horse, y'know. Has to be something befitting of a Prince of the UK. Makes me wonder if there really *is* anywhere else that Andrew goes.
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Old 04-21-2021, 05:30 PM
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That shows how easily appearances and confidence apparently can fool the guards. Not a very safe thought. It shouldn't have been to hard to check with the house to see whether Andrew was indeed expect 'ms X' for lunch.
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Old 04-21-2021, 06:16 PM
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That shows how easily appearances and confidence apparently can fool the guards. Not a very safe thought. It shouldn't have been to hard to check with the house to see whether Andrew was indeed expect 'ms X' for lunch.
And they are professionals. It almost sounds too far-fetched to believe.
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Old 04-21-2021, 07:30 PM
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I don't understand how this "Irene Windsor" woman could convince security at Royal Lodge that she was Andrew's fiancee! She actually gained access to the inside of the house!

Doesn't the security staff know ANYTHING about the person they are responsible for protecting? Such as...Prince Andrew is not engaged?

But they were apparently taken in by how "glamorous" the intruder looked.
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Old 04-21-2021, 07:47 PM
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I don't understand how this "Irene Windsor" woman could convince security at Royal Lodge that she was Andrew's fiancee! She actually gained access to the inside of the house!

Doesn't the security staff know ANYTHING about the person they are responsible for protecting? Such as...Prince Andrew is not engaged?

But they were apparently taken in by how "glamorous" the intruder looked.
She only told them she was his fiancée when she already was IN the house and couldn't find Andrew; at that point they figured out she was an intruder. At the gate she seemed not to have identified herself but just stated confidently that she was to have lunch with the Duke (and made them pay for her cab!).
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Old 04-21-2021, 07:53 PM
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Absolutely shocking!
How can professional security be fooled by someone claiming to be engaged to Prince Andrew, especially by how 'Glamorous' they are.

Surely if she was engaged to Prince Andrew she would have visited the house before and this would not be the first time they had heard of her.

I have never visited a royal at their house but I would imagine there has to be some sort of invitation or prior warning to security of a guest. In any event I'm sure it wouldn't have been difficult for them to call the house and check and not let a stranger in.
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Old 04-21-2021, 09:43 PM
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She only told them she was his fiancée when she already was IN the house and couldn't find Andrew; at that point they figured out she was an intruder. At the gate she seemed not to have identified herself but just stated confidently that she was to have lunch with the Duke (and made them pay for her cab!).
No - the article clearly states that she made the guards at the 2nd, manned gate pay for her cab and they were, apparently, awestruck by her glamorous appearance and her claims of a lunch date with PA - and they directed her a half mile up the road to Royal Lodge itself. Then, she wandered around the gardens outside of Royal Lodge for 20 minutes. It was only when she actually went inside the house and asked a staff member where Andrew was that she was asked to identify herself - at that point, she claimed she was his fiancee.

So, the guards at the gate clearly messed up by letting her in at all, but, thankfully, the staff member inside the house had the presence of mind to ask some basic questions.
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Old 04-21-2021, 09:52 PM
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No - the article clearly states that she made the guards at the 2nd, manned gate pay for her cab and they were, apparently, awestruck by her glamorous appearance and her claims of a lunch date with PA - and they directed her a half mile up the road to Royal Lodge itself. Then, she wandered around the gardens outside of Royal Lodge for 20 minutes. It was only when she actually went inside the house and asked a staff member where Andrew was that she was asked to identify herself - at that point, she claimed she was his fiancee.

So, the guards at the gate clearly messed up by letting her in at all, but, thankfully, the staff member inside the house had the presence of mind to ask some basic questions.
Not sure what you are disagreeing with as that is exactly what I described based on the article I read as well. She did not identify herself to the guards at the gate as the duke's fiancée but only to some other staff member when in the house; but she had the guards at the (2nd) gate pay for her taxi.
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Old 04-21-2021, 10:07 PM
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In reading the accounts of the incident, it occurred to me that Andrew being visited by an attractive polished woman might be a somewhat regular thing and the guards handled it the way they handle other visitors. The Duke is known to display a temper now and then and incurring his wrath by challenging a female guest might be a situation to avoid.
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Old 04-22-2021, 12:13 AM
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In reading the accounts of the incident, it occurred to me that Andrew being visited by an attractive polished woman might be a somewhat regular thing and the guards handled it the way they handle other visitors. The Duke is known to display a temper now and then and incurring his wrath by challenging a female guest might be a situation to avoid.
Basic principles would seem to dictate that the identity of the caller and veracity of her statement she was expected for lunch would be checked before she was allowed past the second gates. Andrew should alert the gate staff in advance to the fact a guest was expected. Surely incurring the Duke's wrath by challenging a female caller is preferable to putting him in danger of assassination. Heads should roll over this.
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Old 04-22-2021, 08:03 AM
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He's got to have something top of the line to drive from Royal Lodge over to the stables at Windsor Castle to be "seen" riding a horse, y'know. Has to be something befitting of a Prince of the UK. Makes me wonder if there really *is* anywhere else that Andrew goes.
probalby not. He's pretty much persona non grata I'd say wiht everyone outside his family and maye a close friends or 2. Plus until this week the country's been in lockdown.. so he's not likely to be visiting anyone...
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Old 04-22-2021, 08:42 AM
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Perhaps he could flee in his newly spray-painted recently purchased 220,000 pounds Bentley car. He left his father’s funeral in that vehicle. Andrew still seems to be living high on the hog in spite of his recent disgrace.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal...ey-Flying-Spur
There are many things Andrew can be criticised for, but I do not resent him using his private funds to replace his car. You would hardly expect him to be driving around in a Skoda!
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Old 04-22-2021, 09:44 AM
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Unfortunately, Andrew's private wealth appears to come from dubious deals with dubious people, so it might look better if he did not flaunt what he's acquired.
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Old 04-22-2021, 06:08 PM
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Prince Andrew's new Bentley is quite impressive.
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Old 04-22-2021, 06:26 PM
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Was this gifted to him or did he purchase it?
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Old 04-22-2021, 07:00 PM
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I wouldn't think that car would be a gift. It's been tweaked out to be exactly how he wants it to be. He probably also got a good deal on a trade in with his previous car. Bet James would love to get behind the wheel of that thing!
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Old 04-23-2021, 06:01 AM
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I doubt if he's getting gifts nowadays, so he problaby bought it.
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Old 04-23-2021, 06:10 AM
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How do we know that he owns it? It could be part of the Queen’s fleet.
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Old 04-23-2021, 06:42 AM
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we dont know, but Its just as likley that its a new car he bought.
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Old 04-23-2021, 06:47 AM
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According to this article it was delivered to Andrew in September last, with blue paintwork. Andrew ordered it re-sprayed in racing green and it has his own personalised plate. I’d say it’s Andrew’s car.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal...ey-Flying-Spur
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