Names and Godparents for Eugenie and Jack's second child

[Princess B]

I think it’ll be a boy, but can’t think of any names. They really did surprise us with Augusts names.

[wymanda]

Ernest Andreas Hawke - Prince Alberts Brother, Prince Phillips father & retaining the Brooksbank tradition.

Helena Elizabeth Nicola - Queen Victorias Daughter, HM The Queen, Jacks Mother

[Iluvbertie]

The issue with Nicola is that people will associate it with Nicola Sturgeon and claim that Eugenie is honoring her or supporting the break-up of the UK. It won't matter whether the name is explained to the public or not that is what the York haters will say and they are a very large percentage of the UK's population.

[King of the Jungle]

I don't think so; not if the child's grandmother is named Nicola.

[An Ard Ri]

Originally Posted by Princess B

They really did surprise us with Augusts names.

Yes I think to think the unexpected with names going forward!

[Biri]

Originally Posted by An Ard Ri

Yes I think to think the unexpected with names going forward!

Well, untitled children can have as unexpected names as their parents wish to give them.

Girl: Caroline Julia Nicola.
Boy: Paul William George.

[Archduchess Zelia]

Very excited to see which name they'll go for. I love that they dug into their family history for August's name. My gut tells me it's a little brother for August, and my name guesses would be:

Boy:
Casper George Coke
Montague George York

Girl:
Cecilia Elizabeth Sebright
Eliza Georgiana York

Coke and Sebright are last names of shared ancestors of Eugenie and Jack. They're both names I could envision them use like August's Hawke. But I have to say, my favourite is York. A family name on Jack's side and for very obvious reasons also holds significance for Eugenie. Seems like a perfect fit!

If August is indeed "named for" Prince Albert, using his middle name, I could vividly imagine them using Eliza to honour QEII. It's fresh and bright (like August) and isn't too similar to a cousin's name. And Eliza Brooksbank sounds delightful!

[Iluvbertie]

Originally Posted by King of the Jungle

I don't think so; not if the child's grandmother is named Nicola.

Do you really think the York haters will even care about that? They will see a York making a political statement of some kind and run with it.

[Archduchess Zelia]

I'd be surprised if Eugenie and Jack care about a select few tossers. And neither should they. If they want to name their daughter after her grandmother, I think they'll happily do so.

[Adda]

My guesses:

If it's a boy:
Philip
Alexander
David

If it's a girl:
Adelaide
Alice
Emma

[Alison H]

Nicola is a very common name amongst women in their 30s and 40s. No-one is going to associate it with Sturgeon. It's not an unusual name like Boris or Keir.

[Sunnystar]

Originally Posted by Alison H

Nicola is a very common name amongst women in their 30s and 40s. No-one is going to associate it with Sturgeon. It's not an unusual name like Boris or Keir.

Heh. People might think they're Bridgerton fans and were inspired by Nicola Coughlan.

[Countessmeout]

Originally Posted by W.Y.CII

I think the second baby will have same naming pattern as August:

August (from maternal great x5 grandfather) Philip (from maternal great grandfather) Hawke (from paternal great x5 grandfather)

The pattern is one name from close senior relative (pretty sure it'll be George if a boy and Elizabeth if a girl), and other two names from both sides for the families that are symmetric. Also to me it seems like if they chose name from a distant ancestor they preferred someone significant or with certain achievement (like P Albert and Hawke who was a Reverend and a JP), rather than just simply choose a "sound good" name.

Boy,

Ivor - from maternal great grandfather (a Brigadier)
George - from paternal grandfather
Godfrey - from paternal great grandfather (a Captain, fought in WWII)

Herbert - from maternal great x3 grandfather (a Lieutenant-Colonel, fought in WWI)
George - from paternal grandfather
Thomas - from paternal great x3 grandfather (2nd Earl of Leicester)

I think it's a boy BTW.

Girl,

Alice - from maternal great x2 grandmother
Elizabeth - from maternal great grandmother
Olive - from paternal great x2 grandmother

Celia - from paternal great grandmother
Victoria - from maternal great x5 grandmother (also Eugenie's own middle name)
Elizabeth - from maternal great grandmother

Just for fun, if they really wanted to follow the same pattern


A daughter

Alexandrina Elizabeth Hannah Brooksbank

-Alexandrina- 4x great grandmother (like August stay away from the name known by, Victoria seems reserved for heir)
-Elizabeth- for Eugenie's grandmother
-Hannah-Jack's 4x great grandmother (wife of Hawke)

Caroline Elizabeth Penelope

Caroline-4x great grandmother Anne Caroline Salisbury (Bowes-Lyon side)
Elizabeth-grandmother
Penelope- 4x great grandmother for Jack's side Penelope Sykes

Emma Elizabeth Mary

Emma- 4x great grandmother on the Ferguson line
Elizabeth- grandmother
Mary- 4x great-grandmother of Jack on his mother's side


Or second son

Edwyn Ronald John

Edwyn- 4x great-grandfather on Bowes-Lyon side
Ronald-Eugenie's grandfather since Philip got nod in first son
John-4x great-grandfather of Jack on his maternal grandfather's line

Christian Ronald Julius

Christian- 4x great grandfather Christian X also a nod to her dad's middle
Ronald-other grandfather
Julius-4x great grandfather of Jack on mom's side

Joseph Ronald Edward

Joseph- 4x great grandfarger through Prince Andrew of Greece's line
Ronald-her grandfather
Edward- 4x great grandfather of Jack

All fun aside still sticking on George being included for late grandpa.

[W.Y.CII]

I've thought of Alexandrina as first name as well but it doesn't go well with August , always wish some royal baby will use this name though.



I don't think Eugenie and Jack will care what hater think. I mean, they are hater, they would find a reason to rant and be mad no matter what names E&J choose. And Nicola is just a common name, Beatrice's mother-in-law also called Nicola, I won't be surprised if the York sisters name their future daughters Nicola and I don't see any problems.

[Countessmeout]

Originally Posted by Archduchess Zelia

Very excited to see which name they'll go for. I love that they dug into their family history for August's name. My gut tells me it's a little brother for August, and my name guesses would be:

Boy:
Casper George Coke
Montague George York

Girl:
Cecilia Elizabeth Sebright
Eliza Georgiana York

Coke and Sebright are last names of shared ancestors of Eugenie and Jack. They're both names I could envision them use like August's Hawke. But I have to say, my favourite is York. A family name on Jack's side and for very obvious reasons also holds significance for Eugenie. Seems like a perfect fit!

If August is indeed "named for" Prince Albert, using his middle name, I could vividly imagine them using Eliza to honour QEII. It's fresh and bright (like August) and isn't too similar to a cousin's name. And Eliza Brooksbank sounds delightful!

Why August was named what he was is known. It was made public at the time of his birth. There is no question he was named for Prince Albert. In reality August was part of his double first name. He was Prince Franz August. Albert was a middle name, Karl Albert Emmanuel. He was named for his godfathers.

Eliza being a shortened version of Elizabeth is not on the same level. I have my doubts she'd use Eliza/beth as a first name with Lilibet.


If they chose to use a surname, my only wager would be on Stamp. It has a long history to a 17th century ancestor (named as he was his maternal grandfather's heir). It is Jack's third name and his grandfather's.

The issue with Nicola is that people will associate it with Nicola Sturgeon and claim that Eugenie is honoring her or supporting the break-up of the UK. It won't matter whether the name is explained to the public or not that is what the York haters will say and they are a very large percentage of the UK's population.

Considering Jack's mother's name is Nicola, I don't think anyone would think it has anything to do with Nicola Sturgeon.

It doesn't take a public announcement of name choice, to clear that one up.

[Archduchess Zelia]

Well no, it was made public that he was named for "both of his great x5 grandfathers". Maybe I explained myself clumsily: I'm aware of Albert's full name – it doesn't change the fact that he was known as Albert from birth.

I don't know, I suppose I just find it a bit weird to "name a child after" someone using a name they haven't gone by. I mean, if someone wanted to name their child after Haakon VII of Norway, I doubt they'd go for Christian or Frederik even though Christian Frederik was his first name. But to each their own.

As for Eliza, well, let's see I don't see any reason why the Sussexes' use of Lilibet should prevent the Brooksbanks from using Eliza. Those two names are not even remotely similar.

And as for the use of a surname... except they used Hawke

[Fijiro]

Originally Posted by W.Y.CII

I've thought of Alexandrina as first name as well but it doesn't go well with August , always wish some royal baby will use this name though.

I don't think Eugenie and Jack will care what hater think. I mean, they are hater, they would find a reason to rant and be mad no matter what names E&J choose. And Nicola is just a common name, Beatrice's mother-in-law also called Nicola, I won't be surprised if the York sisters name their future daughters Nicola and I don't see any problems.

Both the York sisters' mothers-in-law share the name Nicola. what a sweet coincidence. I like the name, but I don't see them using it as first name, maybe middle name.

[Biri]

Originally Posted by Fijiro

Both the York sisters' mothers-in-law share the name Nicola. what a sweet coincidence.

As well as both Swedish Princesses' mothers-in-law share the name Eva

[Countessmeout]

Originally Posted by Archduchess Zelia

And as for the use of a surname... except they used Hawke

Hawke is not a surname. He was named after Reverend Edward Hawke Brooksbank. Hawke was the man's middle name not his surname.

In the case of 5x great-grandfathers they Chose to use names the man did not go by in every day life. Not everyone chooses to honor someone through their first/calling name. If you don't like the name for your child, you may use one of their other.Maybe they didn't like Albert. Maybe they loved Hawke, so thought to do non-call name for both to balance.

Some people don't like to give Close family same or very close to same first names. Eliza and Lilibet are very close. Eliza also isn't as formal as August, likely more traditional/formal name.

[Archduchess Zelia]

While I admittedly haven't been that far back in the Brooksbank family tree, but I'd venture there's a good chance Hawke was once the last name of someone significant and then given to the Rev. in their honour as is tradition in the family. I also think you know that's what I meant

On Eliza: I mean, fair enough that you don't think they'll use it but the fact that both names are derived from Elizabeth aside, Eliza and Lilibet genuinely aren't even remotely close. In terms of the great-grandchildren's names, Eliza is far closer in both pronunciation and look to Isla.

Eliza is also a family name on both Jack and Eugenie's side of the family