Names and Godparents for Eugenie and Jack's First child

[suztav]

How about Christian -- it's one of Andrew's names. Christian Philip George???

[lea]

Alexander Philip Stamp

[Countessmeout]

Originally Posted by amaryllus

Considering no Current British Royal little Boy or bigger boy has Phillip has a first name there is probably a reason. Anyway, why would her sisters step son who in all a honesty Eugenie has no deep connection or relationship with stop her if she desires to the name? The fact it’s one of her husbands names is the important thing.

Beatrice and Eugenie are very close, the whole York clan are. They lock downed together at Royal Lodge at one point. To suggest Eugenie is not going to have any real contact with Wolfie seems way out there. He isn't some distant kin she may see on the balcony every few years. He is the son of her brother in law, who shares full custody of him. Now if Christopher was an old family name, they may over look Wolfie's real name, but its not. Jack and Stamp are both old family names, and ways to honor Jack without naming cousins the same.

Would you think Pippa would name baby 2 George or Charlotte?

There hasn't been that many boys. Two of Philip's four grandsons have Philip. Peter (Peter Philip Philipps) and Harry (his brother already had it) are no shock they didnt have it. As for great-grandkids, there has only been 3 boys so far. The Cambridges have stuck with very cookie cutter Hanoverian names. Perhaps Harry and Meghan just didn't like it.


They could go really out there and use York. Edward York Brooksbank was the father of Captain Stamp Brooksbank (Jack's grandfather). Could be a nod to both their families. But I doubt we will see them go that route.



York Andrew George Brooksbank

Okay as unlikely as Stamp being the first name IMO. But worth a smile.

[amaryllus]

I never said no real contact. I said deep Relationship or connection. Of course Eugenie will see the her Sisters step son often but she will have her own kid to be concerned with . Christopher is a respectable lovely name and one of the names of her child’s father and that’s what matters.

Pippa can name her child wants ever she wants as well.

[acdc1]

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

Beatrice and Eugenie are very close, the whole York clan are. They lock downed together at Royal Lodge at one point. To suggest Eugenie is not going to have any real contact with Wolfie seems way out there. He isn't some distant kin she may see on the balcony every few years. He is the son of her brother in law, who shares full custody of him. Now if Christopher was an old family name, they may over look Wolfie's real name, but its not. Jack and Stamp are both old family names, and ways to honor Jack without naming cousins the same.

Would you think Pippa would name baby 2 George or Charlotte?

There hasn't been that many boys. Two of Philip's four grandsons have Philip. Peter (Peter Philip Philipps) and Harry (his brother already had it) are no shock they didnt have it. As for great-grandkids, there has only been 3 boys so far. The Cambridges have stuck with very cookie cutter Hanoverian names. Perhaps Harry and Meghan just didn't like it.


They could go really out there and use York. Edward York Brooksbank was the father of Captain Stamp Brooksbank (Jack's grandfather). Could be a nod to both their families. But I doubt we will see them go that route.



York Andrew George Brooksbank

Okay as unlikely as Stamp being the first name IMO. But worth a smile.

Slightly OT, but Peter’s name is actually Peter Mark Andrew. Having a middle name of Philip would probably be a little too much with the last name of Phillips.

[Gawin]

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

Now if Christopher was an old family name, they may over look Wolfie's real name, but its not. Jack and Stamp are both old family names, and ways to honor Jack without naming cousins the same.

While not an "old" family name, Christopher is the name of Jack Brooksbank's maternal uncle Christopher Newton as well as a maternal great-uncle Christopher Holland.

Christopher Holland was killed during World War II. His sister Joanna (Holland) Newton, Jack's grandmother, wrote about him on this website:


http://www.lancaster-lm658.co.uk/lan.../#.YCS6rHlMHb0

[Countessmeout]

Originally Posted by acdc1

Slightly OT, but Peter’s name is actually Peter Mark Andrew. Having a middle name of Philip would probably be a little too much with the last name of Phillips.

That was the point I was making

What I wrote was that Philip has four grandsons, 2 who have his name and 2 who don't. William and James do. Harry and Peter don't. I was pointing out the obvious reason Philip wasn't used for the other two. Mainly Peter Philip Philipps is redundant if not bizarre sounding at best. And since William already had Philip, there was no need for Harry to.

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by acdc1

Slightly OT, but Peter’s name is actually Peter Mark Andrew. Having a middle name of Philip would probably be a little too much with the last name of Phillips.

And James has Philip among his names (James Alexander Philip Theo).

[CyrilVladisla]

This Hello magazine article has a very touching commentary on why Philip would be nice to use as a name for Master Baby Brooksbank.
http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty...e-philip-birth

[QueenMathilde]

Well I can find the article online if anyone is really interested. It was on SmartNews on my phone. But the gist is that they took a survey and the majority said they'd name the baby Phillip. I guessed a girl named Victoria so we'll see if they are closer than I was.

[Countessmeout]

Those betting polls very rarely even come close.

At least for once its not predicting Arthur or James. They seem to be the top choice for every male royal in the UK for betting. And were the top picks for this baby up until yesterday.

[MaiaMia_53]

Christian Philip Ronald

or

Ronald Philip Christian

or

Ronald Andrew Philip George

or

Nicholas Andrew George

or

Philip Jackson Andrew George

[MaiaMia_53]

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

Considering Beatrice's stepson is Christopher I highly doubt they would use it.

Both George and Andrew have Edward as a middle name so could use it.

I would love

Philip Edward Stamp

But I suspect we will see a more popular first name

Leo Philip Stamp

Oliver Andrew George

I think Oliver is a really nice name that goes well with the last name, Brooksbank. The first name Philip also goes well with Brooksbank.

The question is whether they will stick to three rather than four names. Many of the younger royals are going with three names for their offspring.

In my previous post, I mentioned 'Nicholas,' since Jack's mother's name is Nicola. As well, with Harry picking 'Harrison' as one of his son's names, it would not be surprising if Eugenie and Jack decided to use 'Jackson' as one of their son's names.

Sarah would surely be happy if her father's name is chosen in some capacity.

So, perhaps--

Ronald Nicholas Andrew

or perhaps

Ronald Eugene Jackson

or

Nicholas Eugene Jackson

or

Philip Eugene Ferguson

[Countessmeout]

Eugenie and Jack both have three names. I'd be shocked if they went with 4.

If they chose Nicholas I think it would be as a first name to give the baby his 'own name'. Middle names IMO will be more straight family names. I don't see Eugene. Plenty of other names to use without gender bending Eugenie.


I still lean to honoring both grandfathers in the middle name some how.

Edward would be perfect as it is a middle name of both George and Andrew. Then they could use Philip as well, and still give the baby original first name.

Won't be shocked if they just do straight George Andrew for the middle names.

[MaiaMia_53]

Yes, three given names seem to be the norm for the younger royals' choice for their offspring, aside from Harry who decided with Meghan to use the American custom of two given names (especially since the Mountbatten-Windsor surname is such a mouthful). Plus, of course, they did not intend a title for Archie either.

Yes, if they chose 'Edward,' I suppose that could suffice for honoring both grandfathers, and then maybe use 'Philip' somewhere to honor aging great-grandfather.

Philip Edward Jackson

or

Philip Edward Stamp

Or, as you suggest, a completely original non-family related first name combined with two family names.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by MaiaMia_53

I think Oliver is a really nice name that goes well with the last name, Brooksbank. The first name Philip also goes well with Brooksbank.

The question is whether they will stick to three rather than four names. Many of the younger royals are going with three names for their offspring.

In my previous post, I mentioned 'Nicholas,' since Jack's mother's name is Nicola. As well, with Harry picking 'Harrison' as one of his son's names, it would not be surprising if Eugenie and Jack decided to use 'Jackson' as one of their son's names.

Sarah would surely be happy if her father's name is chosen in some capacity.

So, perhaps--

Ronald Nicholas Andrew

or perhaps

Ronald Eugene Jackson

or

Nicholas Eugene Jackson

or

Philip Eugene Ferguson

Isn't that a very American thing though instead of a British upper-class custom? Therefore, I always thought that idea would have come from Meghan; so for me it would come as a huge surprise if Jack and Eugenie would go that route.

[Biri]

Oliver is associated with Oliver Cromwell.

[Claire]

I am expecting a variant of Andrew - Drew, Andre, Andreas.
Maybe Eugene.


Interesting story about baby naming - and the winner of baby names timing would have to be the length of time it took the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh to name Prince Edward - The Queen only thought of girl names so when Edward came along - she wanted to name Edward, Philip - but the Duke of Edinburgh refused and wanted Richard or Louis. So the time elapsed when the registration of birth was supposed to happen until they come to a resolution and the Duke of Edinburgh was fined accordingly. He happily paid it and noted to the press that he had won the argument.

[Heavs]

Originally Posted by Biri

Oliver is associated with Oliver Cromwell.

In the UK it's in the top 5 if not the top 3 names and has been for many years so I don't think anyone will be jumping to those associations.

It wasn't uncommon for the upper class (and others) to use mother's maiden name as a first name for the child, I think that's where Stamp entered the Brooksbanks as a family name, which I think is highly likely to be used. I suppose there's a possibility we might see York as a middle name in lieu of Andrew or Albert etc.

However Jackson would be seen as a very American name, and there are lots of other ways I could see Jack and Eugenie putting in family names before going the route Harry and Meghan chose, even though it worked for them. I do see something more traditional from them even if it's traditional with a twist. However if they wanted to go the Jackson/Eugene route, they certainly should.

They're lucky that Brooksbank works with a lot of lovely names.

I wonder if they'll announce it on Saturday so it makes all the Sunday papers?

[carlota]

Originally Posted by Biri

Oliver is associated with Oliver Cromwell.

not at all - it is a very well used, common british name.