Names and Godparents for Eugenie and Jack's First child - Page 15

Gawin · #**281** 02-20-2021, 09:57 AM

The couple may have selected Hawke in honor of Jack's ancestor Rev. Edward Hawke Brooksbank.

Rev. Edward Hawke Brooksbank (1789-1883) > Edward Brooksbank (1826-1916) > Sir Edward Clitherow Brooksbank 1st Baronet (1858-1943) > Edward York Brooksbank (1888-1935) > Capt. Stamp Godfrey Brooksbank (1922-2017) > George Edward Hugh Brooksbank (b. 1949) > Jack Christopher Stamp Brooksbank (b. 1986) > August Philip Hawke Brooksbank (b. 2021).

Several of Eugenie's German ancestors were named August including August Duke of Saxe-Gotha (1772-1822), the maternal grandfather of Prince Albert.

August Duke of Saxe-Gotha (1772-1822) > Luise Duchess of Saxe-Coburg (1800-1831) > Albert Prince Consort (1819-1861) > Edward VII (1841-1910) > George V (1865-1936) > George VI (1895-1952) > Elizabeth II (b. 1926) > Andrew Duke of York (b. 1960) > Eugenie (b. 1990) > August Philip Hawke Brooksbank (b. 2021)

Mbruno · #**282** 02-20-2021, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Denville

why not just call him Albert? Then everyone would know whom he was called for.

Maybe because August is not just a nod to Prince Albert and the Saxe-Coburgs , but also to the Hanoverians and the BRF’s broader German roots?

Also August could be read as an adjunct to Philip in the Roman tradition although it would have been more common in that context to use Philip August rather than August Philip.

Gawin · #**283** 02-20-2021, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Denville

why not just call him Albert? Then everyone would know whom he was called for.

Maybe they like the name August but not Albert.

tihkon2 · #**284** 02-20-2021, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Gawin

Maybe they like the name August but not Albert.

Exactly.

And on another note, August was also part of the name of another son of King George III. That son was King Ernst-August of Hanover.

Moonmaiden23 · #**285** 02-20-2021, 10:59 AM

I LOVE it! Dignified, non trendy and Royal. Not sure about " Hawke" but it makes sense why they would use it. August Philip is perfect.

ETA: According to People Magazine, baby August was delivered by Caesarian section due to Princess Eugenie's scoliosis. But i thought the scoliosis had been corrected through surgery?

Anyway, that would explain the princess's 3 day hospital stay.

Sandy345 · #**286** 02-20-2021, 11:01 AM

When I think of the name August I think of August Belmont, millionaire and horse breeder of the most renowned racehorse in History, Man O'War. The Belmont Stakes is named for him. ANd his wife was a great patron of the arts. Nice name. I think HM might think of August Belmont since she's an expert on thoroughbred racing.

Skippy · #**287** 02-20-2021, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23

I LOVE it! Dignified, non trendy and Royal. Not sure about " Hawke" but it makes sense why they would use it. August Philip is perfect.

ETA: According to People Magazine, baby August was delivered by Caesarian section due to Princess Eugenie's scoliosis. But i thought the scoliosis had been corrected through surgery?

Anyway, that would explain the princess's 3 day hospital stay.

It has, but possibly the labour could have impact on the rods in her spine, so I suppose the C-section was purely for safety. It's a good thing to consider that this could be a consequence of having had a spinal fusion.

Sandy345 · #**288** 02-20-2021, 11:10 AM

I wonder why they used the name Hawke?

Denville · #**289** 02-20-2021, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy345

I wonder why they used the name Hawke?

because its a family name on Jacks side....

Sandy345 · #**290** 02-20-2021, 11:16 AM

Interesting. Is the family related to Ethan Hawke?

Pranter · #**291** 02-20-2021, 11:18 AM

Family name on Jacks side.

**Heavs** · #**292** 02-20-2021, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy345

Interesting. Is the family related to Ethan Hawke?

Not as far as anyone knows and it probably would have come out by now from people doing his family tree. It was used as his 5 x great grandfather's middle name and was probably a surname from a maternal side at some point.

They were probably just looking up various family names and found two that they liked, that were conveniently symmetrical from the same generation.

rmay286 · #**293** 02-20-2021, 11:52 AM

I like August. Like someone else said here, it's a strong name, and it actually has a meaning as an English word ("respected and impressive").

And while I definitely would not have expected August, I can understand why they went back to Prince Albert because the Yorks have always been big fans of Albert and Victoria, so if I *had* guessed a name beforehand, I'd have said Albert.

Princess Beatrice is named after Queen Victoria's youngest daughter and Eugenie's middle names are Victoria and Helena (after another of Queen Victoria's daughters). Also, Sarah has written a book/made a movie about Albert and Victoria and has discussed making a future movie about Prince Albert.

**Somebody** · #**294** 02-20-2021, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TLLK

A form of August was also one of Prince Albert's names so that must be the five times great grandfather reference on the mother's side.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert,_Prince_Consort

Yes, see several of the posts in this and the 'it's a boy for...' thread. That was very clear as Eugenie apparently explained that they picked one of prince Albert's names as she was named after his wife queen Victoria.

**Somebody** · #**295** 02-20-2021, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gawin

The couple may have selected Hawke in honor of Jack's ancestor Rev. Edward Hawke Brooksbank.

Rev. Edward Hawke Brooksbank (1789-1883) > Edward Brooksbank (1826-1916) > Sir Edward Clitherow Brooksbank 1st Baronet (1858-1943) > Edward York Brooksbank (1888-1935) > Capt. Stamp Godfrey Brooksbank (1922-2017) > George Edward Hugh Brooksbank (b. 1949) > Jack Christopher Stamp Brooksbank (b. 1986) > August Philip Hawke Brooksbank (b. 2021).

Several of Eugenie's German ancestors were named August including August Duke of Saxe-Gotha (1772-1822), the maternal grandfather of Prince Albert.

August Duke of Saxe-Gotha (1772-1822) > Luise Duchess of Saxe-Coburg (1800-1831) > Albert Prince Consort (1819-1861) > Edward VII (1841-1910) > George V (1865-1936) > George VI (1895-1952) > Elizabeth II (b. 1926) > Andrew Duke of York (b. 1960) > Eugenie (b. 1990) > August Philip Hawke Brooksbank (b. 2021)

Eugenie herself explained that August and Hawke are after '5x great-grandfathers', so we know for sure what each name is referring to:

August: Prince Francis Albert Augustus Charles Emmanuel (in German: Franz Albrecht August Karl Emanuel) (prince consort of queen Victoria)
Philip: The Duke of Edinburgh
Hawke: Rev. Edward Hawke Brooksbank

**Somebody** · #**296** 02-20-2021, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23

I LOVE it! Dignified, non trendy and Royal. Not sure about " Hawke" but it makes sense why they would use it. August Philip is perfect.

ETA: According to People Magazine, baby August was delivered by Caesarian section due to Princess Eugenie's scoliosis. But i thought the scoliosis had been corrected through surgery?

Anyway, that would explain the princess's 3 day hospital stay.

I wonder whether PEOPLE has a source for it; or that TRF was used as a source as that was already suggested by one of the members when I wondered why Eugenie stayed in hospital for several days (this explanation immediately made sense to me).

Princess Luna · #**297** 02-20-2021, 12:26 PM

Lovely name

Hallo girl · #**298** 02-20-2021, 12:34 PM

Eugenie has obviously wanted to show respect to her grandfather, when you think of her wedding, all the old enough great grand children were in the bridal party which was so lovely for the queen and Philip. She is a thoughtful young woman,

Gawin · #**299** 02-20-2021, 12:54 PM

I'm a traditionalist myself so I'm very happy the couple chose family names.

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Originally Posted by Somebody

Eugenie herself explained that August and Hawke are after '5x great-grandfathers', so we know for sure what each name is referring to:

August: Prince Francis Albert Augustus Charles Emmanuel (in German: Franz Albrecht August Karl Emanuel) (prince consort of queen Victoria)
Philip: The Duke of Edinburgh
Hawke: Rev. Edward Hawke Brooksbank

REAL COUNTESS · #**300** 02-20-2021, 12:54 PM

Great strong names for the little one. Family history connected. I must say little August Phillip Hawk is a cutie. Happy little family. Best wishes to them.