Names and Godparents for Eugenie and Jack's First child

[King of the Jungle]

York is a cute idea. ..Alas, poor Yorick. I knew him well .. Shakespeare named a court jester the name so, though not trendy, it is not peculiar.

The Yorkie too is a gorgeous little dog.

York Christopher George Brooksbank
York Philip Stamp Brooksbank
Fergus York Edward Brooksbank
Arthur Nicholas York Brooksbank

The little chap will have his name by now yet Yorkie could always be a moniker.

[QueenMathilde]

Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla

This Hello magazine article has a very touching commentary on why Philip would be nice to use as a name for Master Baby Brooksbank.
http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty...e-philip-birth

Interesting- so he's going to be a master then?

[QueenMathilde]

Originally Posted by Claire

I am expecting a variant of Andrew - Drew, Andre, Andreas.
Maybe Eugene.


Interesting story about baby naming - and the winner of baby names timing would have to be the length of time it took the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh to name Prince Edward - The Queen only thought of girl names so when Edward came along - she wanted to name Edward, Philip - but the Duke of Edinburgh refused and wanted Richard or Louis. So the time elapsed when the registration of birth was supposed to happen until they come to a resolution and the Duke of Edinburgh was fined accordingly. He happily paid it and noted to the press that he had won the argument.

Eugene Jack?

[Iluvbertie]

Originally Posted by QueenMathilde

Interesting- so he's going to be a master then?

Until he is 18 when he will become Mister.

Old fashioned but still used for 'formal' names. Peter Phillips was known as Master Peter Phillips until he turned 18.

If Archie were in the UK he may very well be called Master Archie Mountbatten-Windsor rather than just Archie.

[sophie25]

It's hard to predict Godparents as some (most) people go to family and others opt for friends and you never know how many people will be chosen. I can imagine Beatrice and Jack's brother being chosen and I think Freddie Windsor or his wife Sophie are also in with a shout as is Peter Phillips but other than that I really can't think of anyone else.

[Alison H]

Historically, all non-titled men were Master and all non-titled women were Mistress, but it somehow evolved so that boys are now Master and grown men are Mr, and unmarried women of any age are Miss and married women are Mrs ... although some women prefer Ms. Annoyingly, Master tends not to appear on the list of drop-down titles when ordering things on websites, so I had to send my 9-year-old nephew something addressed to Mr, which he was very pleased about :-) . But, yes, Master Brooksbank will be Master until he's older!

[Denville]

Originally Posted by King of the Jungle

York is a cute idea. ..Alas, poor Yorick. I knew him well .. Shakespeare named a court jester the name so, though not trendy, it is not peculiar.

The Yorkie too is a gorgeous little dog.

York Christopher George Brooksbank
York Philip Stamp Brooksbank
Fergus York Edward Brooksbank
Arthur Nicholas York Brooksbank

The little chap will have his name by now yet Yorkie could always be a moniker.

I dont think they're going to give him a nickname that is either a chocolate bar or a dog....

[kathia_sophia]

I doubt the baby will have 3 given names like George, Charlotte and Louis. I think they will follow the same route as we've seen with Isla, just two given names + family names.

[Countessmeout]

Originally Posted by kathia_sophia

I doubt the baby will have 3 given names like George, Charlotte and Louis. I think they will follow the same route as we've seen with Isla, just two given names + family names.

It's a matter of preference not closeness to the throne.

Not even looking at Eugenie, look at the Brooksbanks.

-Jack Christopher Stamp
-George Edward Hugh
-Wilfred Stamp Ewing (nephew, not sure Thomas' full)
-Florian Thomas Charles (heir to the Baronetcy)

Even Savannah has three names.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

Indeed. If The Queen Mother and George VI had followed the Scottish tradition mentioned we would have Queen Cecelia and Princess Mary. Only if they had a third daughter would it have been named Elizabeth.

Interesting, so a third daughter would be named after her mother and a third son after his father? In the Dutch tradition, after the grandparents, they would start with the aunts and uncles (again in birth order and alternating between families; unless someone passed away earlier - in that case they would move up).

So, if they would name their son after his paternal grandfather, we'd have a master George Brooksbank. Jack himself however was named after his great-grandfather. In the baby's case that would lead to a 'Stamp' Brooksbank; so maybe they'd pick his second name Godfrey instead...

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

It's a matter of preference not closeness to the throne.

Not even looking at Eugenie, look at the Brooksbanks.

-Jack Christopher Stamp
-George Edward Hugh
-Wilfred Stamp Ewing (nephew, not sure Thomas' full)
-Florian Thomas Charles (heir to the Baronetcy)

Even Savannah has three names.

The peerage news has his name as 'Thomas George Brooksbank' at his engagement announcement.

[kathia_sophia]

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

It's a matter of preference not closeness to the throne.

Not even looking at Eugenie, look at the Brooksbanks.

-Jack Christopher Stamp
-George Edward Hugh
-Wilfred Stamp Ewing (nephew, not sure Thomas' full)
-Florian Thomas Charles (heir to the Baronetcy)

Even Savannah has three names.

I was not talking about the throne, I just mentioned children with three names. Mia and Lena have two. Even if the Brooksbanks have usually three, Eugenie might not want that many names.

Actually, I don't know about the UK, but Portugal has seen a decline of naming children with several names in the recent decade. In the time of my mother, several people had lots of names, my mother has 5 names, now 6 with my father's surname.

Then in my time, it was usual for parents to name their children with two given names. Now it's different. Most kids only have one name as opposed to two (of course, there are still some with two names). But things have changed considerably in the last few years.

[REAL COUNTESS]

Maybe my post didn't make it through. I think Alistair Phillip Andrew George Brooksbank sounds nice. Not everyone has this primary name.

[Blog Real]

When do they disclose the name? I am careful to know the child's name.

[MaiaMia_53]

'Alistair' is a nice name, but I would think more-so 'Albert' to honor King George VI

Albert Hugh Philip
(Bertie Brooksbank has a nice ring)

Or:
Albert Hugh Ferguson

Or:
Albert Hugh Jackson

(Since Hugh is one of Jack's father's names)

Or, to honor Jack's ancestors:
Thomas Lynall Stamp

Or:
Philip Eugene Stamp

Or:
Philip Jackson Stamp

[Countessmeout]

Jackson is a bit too American sounding to me.

I lean far away from them using 'alternatives' like Jackson instead of Jack. Or Eugene to honor his mother when there are plenty of men to honor name wise.

Alastair would be a nice change from Albert which is already in use. It also is the name of one of Eugenie's godfathers, Captain Alastair Ross. He was her father's commander in the navy.

[Pranter]

Eugene? I hope not!


I do like the sound of Hugh and Alistair.


LaRae

[CyrilVladisla]

What if Master Brooksbank was named Jack Christopher Stamp Brooksbank, Jr.?

[Countessmeout]

Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla

What if Master Brooksbank was named Jack Christopher Stamp Brooksbank, Jr.?

That doesn't seem a common trend, among the upper class, in the UK.

Now a child sharing a first name with his father is. But the middle names as well is another matter.

In the Brooksbanks family Edward was shared until recently as a first name.

Edward Clitherow Brooksbank- 1st baronet
Edward William Brooksbank- 2nd baronet
Edward Nicholas Brooksbank-3rd baronet

Between the 1st and second there was Edward York (he died before his father so his son Edward William inherited the baronetcy instead).

They went by their second names, to distinguish from the previous generation. Nicholas broke the tradition, in that his eldest son is named Florian not Edward, though like his father he goes by his second name Thomas instead.



We could see something like Jack Philip Hugh Brooksbank, and to distinguish him from his father, he goes by Philip instead.

[MaiaMia_53]

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

Jackson is a bit too American sounding to me.

Maybe, but 'Jack' in and of itself is rather 'American-sounding.' LOL

I don't think Eugenie or Jack are averse to things that are American or 'American-sounding.' One of Eugenie's favorite cousins lives in America and is married to an American.

Plus, Eugenie chose for her sister to read a passage from The Great Gatsby, one of the most famous American literary works of the 20th century.

In the not-too-distant future when travel restrictions are lifted, I can see Eugenie and Jack visiting the Sussexes at their Montecito home, where the Sussex and Brooksbank young cousins can have a blast playing together on the beautiful grounds.

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

I lean far away from them using 'alternatives' like Jackson instead of Jack. Or Eugene to honor his mother when there are plenty of men to honor name wise.

Alastair would be a nice change from Albert which is already in use. It also is the name of one of Eugenie's godfathers, Captain Alastair Ross. He was her father's commander in the navy.

Originally Posted by Pranter

Eugene? I hope not! I do like the sound of Hugh and Alistair.

There's nothing wrong with honoring a son by choosing a male form of a mother's given name.

Regarding 'Eugene' as one of their son's names, it's probably unlikely but not an impossible choice. It rather depends on the parents' preferences, not ours. Perhaps 'Gene' rather than 'Eugene.' LOL

It's nice to know that there's a close association Eugenie has to the name Alistair, as I like the sound of it. But would they call him 'Ali' for a nickname? Hmmm

Alistair is very 'British-sounding.' And it would go with any combination of Lynall and/or Hugh and/or Philip and/or Stamp.

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

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We could see something like Jack Philip Hugh Brooksbank, and to distinguish him from his father, he goes by Philip instead.

That sounds very reasonable, and those names are likeable and they go together.

Personally, I rather like the sound of 'Bertie Brooksbank.' With the George VI connection, I don't think 'Albert' is completely out of the question, despite seeming a bit old-fashioned. Who btw currently has 'Albert' as a first given name among either the Brooksbanks or the Windsors? I realize 'Albert' has been popular as a second, third or fourth given name among the Windsors. But not recently used as a first name.

It's been said that Diana didn't like the names 'Albert' or 'George.' She was okay with the name, 'William.' Reportedly, the Wales' first born son was named after Prince William of Gloucester, the second cousin Charles idolized. Diana didn't particularly care for the formal sound of 'Henry' either. That's why she was adamant her second son, although formally named 'Henry,' would be called 'Harry.'