Eugenie and Jack: Wedding Suggestions and Musings Thread

[Iluvbertie]

Originally Posted by Rudolph

First of all Kate isn’t going to play any part in Pippa’s delivery. They’re close but come on.

The other thing is Pippa and Eugenie are friends. Eugenie and Jack attended Pippa’s wedding. James Middleton and Eugenie were at Marlborough College at the same time, so I’m assuming the invite has already arrived.

The only announced royal not attending is Camilla

I am only repeating what I have heard - that Pippa's due date is basically this weekend and Kate wants to be there for her sister. Not unusual for many sisters to be together at that time, even if not in the room.

I am sure if Pippa can be there she will but if her due date is the one that has been put out I doubt she would attend the wedding and take the risk of going into labour during the service ... is that what you would want a friend to do to you?

[KristineML]

I'm Canadian and my TV guide isn't showing the wedding on TLC on Friday morning.
They have a number of "Say Yes to the Dress" episodes listed from 4am to noon.
There is an episode that starts at 4:25am though.

[Mirabel]

Originally Posted by angieuk

3 questions?

Does Jack not have any children on his side that could have been attendants?

I don't know whether Jack has cousins who'd be the right age; I do know his only sibling is Tom, who recently got engaged to Amy Rodgers. So no little nieces or nephews.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by Mirabel

I don't know whether Jack has cousins who'd be the right age; I do know his only sibling is Tom, who recently got engaged to Amy Rodgers. So no little nieces or nephews.

Just like no nieces or nephews of Eugenie are included as Beatrice is unmarried and without children. However, it seems the royal family is probably a bit closer to cousins than the average family given their special position within society.

Originally Posted by HereditaryPrincess

Interesting that Robbie William's daughter is included in the bridal party, I had no idea that Eugenie was close to him. Maybe we'll be seeing a lot of other celebrity guests at the wedding too (I seem to remember that Ed Sheeran attended a party that was hosted by Beatrice and Eugenie a couple of years ago too).

Couldn't it be Jack who is close to Robbie Williams (after so many years of dating hopefully close to both of them)? And what about the De Givenchy's? Are they assumed to be closer to Eugenie or Jack?

FYI: found this interview with Zoe de Givency featuring pictures of 1-year old Louis.

And a recent picture of Teddy Williams on her 6th birthday last month. Apparently, she recently had a little baby sister Coco (and also has a younger brother Charlie)

[CyrilVladisla]

It is nice that Lady Louise and Viscount Severn are special attendants. What are the duties of the special attendants?

[Countessmeout]

Eugenie has plenty of posh even celebrity friends. Possibly as many as get oust S that she knows on a personal and not just charity basis I woukd be expecting quite a few well known faces. Eugenie also moves in the same social circles as people like the Cassiraghi trio, the Hannoverian princes and the German royals Harry hunts with. She has attended many of the weddings and events. I wonder if we may see any.

Pippa and Eugenie are friends but I don't think she will be there. Eugenie got invited to her wedding but was certainly not a small close friends wedding. Pippa is close to giving birth and I doubt she will pull a Zara.

Kate may or may not miss the wedding. The palace wouldn't know it yet. But I think Kate will at least go for the ceremony. With the kids in the wedding and all. If pippa has given birth, she may choose to skip the rest.

Little surprised we have seen no Fergusons in the wedding party. Not as surprised no from Jack. The Cambridge wedding party was the same, all from Willisms side of the famiky and friends.

[miss whirley]

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

Pippa and Eugenie are friends but I don't think she will be there. Eugenie got invited to her wedding but was certainly not a small close friends wedding. Pippa is close to giving birth and I doubt she will pull a Zara.

Little surprised we have seen no Fergusons in the wedding party. Not as surprised no from Jack. The Cambridge wedding party was the same, all from Willisms side of the famiky and friends.

Not the best example as Zara had Lena more than 4 weeks after the Sussex wedding. If Pippa was more than 4 weeks away, I think she would attend. If she is indeed about to give birth any day, which we don't know since she never gave a due date, then I would call it pulling a Madeleine.

[Iluvbertie]

Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla

It is nice that Lady Louise and Viscount Severn are special attendants. What are the duties of the special attendants?

I am not sure.

I suspect it is a 'special' title so they can be included but not be classed with the 'children' as such.

I love the fact that all of Eugenie's royal cousins (other than Harry) are represented either directly, Louise and James, or via their children. I also love the fact that she hasn't chosen one cousin's children over another with all three adult cousin's children who aren't babies included. It is also lovely to see Maud Windsor involved as she is Eugenie's goddaughter.

It seems to me that Eugenie has put a lot of thought into the wedding party to include as much of her family as possible as well as a few friends.

I do wonder why there are no Ferguson relatives involved though.

[miss whirley]

Originally Posted by Iluvbertie

I am not sure.

I suspect it is a 'special' title so they can be included but not be classed with the 'children' as such.

I love the fact that all of Eugenie's royal cousins (other than Harry) are represented either directly, Louise and James, or via their children. I also love the fact that she hasn't chosen one cousin's children over another with all three adult cousin's children who aren't babies included. It is also lovely to see Maud Windsor involved as she is Eugenie's goddaughter.

It seems to me that Eugenie has put a lot of thought into the wedding party to include as much of her family as possible as well as a few friends.

I do wonder why there are no Ferguson relatives involved though.

I questioned the same thing a few pages back. Amara Stileman would of been a nice choice from her maternal side. Amara and Eugenie are first cousins.

[Countessmeout]

Originally Posted by miss whirley

Not the best example as Zara had Lena more than 4 weeks after the Sussex wedding. If Pippa was more than 4 weeks away, I think she would attend. If she is indeed about to give birth any day, which we don't know since she never gave a due date, then I would call it pulling a Madeleine.

Reality is pippa and Eugenie are not BFF. Eugenie went to school with James, whether she knew him or not at school, questionable. Eugenie was one of a couple hundred guests at Pippas wedding, of varying levels of familiarity.

Going any where when you are even eight months pregnant as Zara was is uncomfortable. Sitting through a long church wedding. I used Zara as it is a British example, and is just as relevant here.

The point being as Eugenie and pippa are not related, nor that close friends, I highly doubt Pippa is intending to show up.

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by Iluvbertie

I am only repeating what I have heard - that Pippa's due date is basically this weekend and Kate wants to be there for her sister. Not unusual for many sisters to be together at that time, even if not in the room.

I am sure if Pippa can be there she will but if her due date is the one that has been put out I doubt she would attend the wedding and take the risk of going into labour during the service ... is that what you would want a friend to do to you?

And Kate's 5 year old and 3 year old are in this wedding. I think Kate will be at the wedding. Pippa may not.

If Pippa has her baby while Kate is at the wedding, she may head back to London instead of attending the reception but I don't see Kate missing seeing her own children in the wedding.

Originally Posted by Iluvbertie

I do wonder why there are no Ferguson relatives involved though.

Maybe the Fergusons didn't want the publicity or limelight.


Pippa & James invited Eugenie & Jack to their wedding so I'm sure P & J have been invited. I agree if she is very close to her due date she probably won't attend a wedding in Windsor.

[miss whirley]

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

Reality is pippa and Eugenie are not BFF. Eugenie went to school with James, whether she knew him or not at school, questionable. Eugenie was one of a couple hundred guests at Pippas wedding, of varying levels of familiarity.

Going any where when you are even eight months pregnant as Zara was is uncomfortable. Sitting through a long church wedding. I used Zara as it is a British example, and is just as relevant here.

The point being as Eugenie and pippa are not related, nor that close friends, I highly doubt Pippa is intending to show up.

Actually, Pippa's wedding ceremony only had about 100-120 guests for which both Eugenie and Jack made the cut. Seeing as how other people were left off that list, I would believe they are bonafide friends. So yes, if Pippa was only 8 months pregnant, like Zara was, then I do believe she would plan to attend. Since we are to believe she's 9 months pregnant, then yes, she's likely stay home.

[Dman]

2 more days folks!

[miss whirley]

Originally Posted by Dman

2 more days folks!

2 days for us in North America, but already Thursday in the UK. Really down to the home stretch. I always enjoy the setting-up pictures from the day before royal weddings, so looking forward to what Thursday brings.

[Tiggersk8]

Originally Posted by Kataryn

The Duke of York twittered that the wedding will be shown live on their You Tube channel, without geo block.

Which at the time I posted that information, no one knew about the live streaming on You Tube & there was every chance of that happening.

Originally Posted by Osipi

From the perspective that I'm looking at it, this wedding is going to be very much a family affair with cuteness overload with the bridal party of adorable children.



Here in the US, where its more common to have adult bridesmaids, a younger teen in the bridal party is often called a junior bridesmaid. Louise is too old to be included in with the younger children and that, I believe, is the reason for her and James to be called Special Attendants. It will be sweet to see the both of them in formal attire for this.



I know that we, as the public looking on as spectators, can easily see this wedding as being a "lesser" event because we easily see the pecking order and who works and who doesn't work for the family business "the Firm". From the Queen and Philip's viewpoint though, they don't see it this way at all. Eugenie is as much of a beloved granddaughter as any of the other grandchildren these two nonagenarians have. They're seeing this as a family celebration totally separate from the roles they hold within the monarchy and the "Firm".



Philip has shown himself to still be in top form doing the things he loves to do the best and that, I believe, will see him proudly taking his place besides his wife as his granddaughter marries.

Thank you!!

Love all the Cousins that are taking part, but especially Louise & James. I was hoping Louise would be a Jr Bridesmaid & I can't wait to see her Friday morning"

[akina21]

Originally Posted by Countessmeout

Kate may or may not miss the wedding. The palace wouldn't know it yet. But I think Kate will at least go for the ceremony. With the kids in the wedding and all. If pippa has given birth, she may choose to skip the rest.

Kate and her sister are close but they're not conjoined twins who can't breathe without each other .

[Biri]

What time does the ceremony start?

[Biri]

Greenwich time, of course?

[Rudolph]

Expect to see Hollywood stars, fashion supremos, big names from the business world & probably a smattering of foreign royals amongst the congregation

Via Mark Stewart @RegalEyes Twitter.

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Rudolph

Expect to see Hollywood stars, fashion supremos, big names from the business world & probably a smattering of foreign royals amongst the congregation

Via Mark Stewart @RegalEyes Twitter.

Foreign royals ? If any of the current reigning royal houses is represented, it will be a surprise to me.