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Old 10-03-2018, 10:25 PM
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These people are often only repeating what is said in the media and from their own experience.

For Instance: In 2015 I spent four weeks in London (and did a 'which royal I spotted today update at the time). I also reported on the responses to a range of questions about various royals at the places where I met royal fans etc. The overwhelming response, from my personal survey, was that the Yorks are detested by everyone - not one person I spoke to had a good word to say about them. I never claimed to speak to everyone in Britain of course, but over that four weeks I would have asked about 200 - 300 British people their thoughts on the various members of the BRF and the lot said the same thing about the Yorks.

There have been reports for years about the feelings of many members of the BRF on Sarah - Philip pointedly refuses to go to Balmoral until after she has made her annual visit. That is very clear. Charles also refuses to have anything to do with her - that is well-reported. Harry, on the other hand, does seem to spend some time with her when she is with her daughters and has holidayed with her and the rest of the Yorks in Switzerland.

The general feeling is that the Yorks are the most disliked branch of the family - that is a rather incontestable fact.

Sadly Andrew's antics over the years has dragged his family down and even though he carries out many engagements his work is ignored and he is thus seen as a waste of space and a freeloader. The media constantly reports on the girls 'vacations' giving rise to the 'freeloader' tag again.

Unless people are prepared to actually do some research into what the girls do - and Andrew for that matter - the media will continue with this approach and the public will lap it up.
I think it’s safe to say...the York’s are the official Everlast Punching Bags to the media and folks online. Rumors and reports have been going on for years and unfortunately it all stuck.
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Old 10-03-2018, 10:34 PM
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It seems that Beatrice and Eugenie are easily lumped together because while there have indeed been times in which Beatrice's trips were coming up again and again in the media; Eugenie always seems to have received less media attention regarding her holidays (she might travel less - instead concentrating on her job and charity work).

So, to me it seems people are projecting not only her parents' but also her sister's behavior/image on her.
Eugenie gets plenty of her own. Like when she was in Florida they did an article about her out drinking in Miami when she was in Florida as her gallery was running a week long exhibition which she was involved in. Same with LA.

Beatrice is an easier target as they aren't quite sure what she does for a job so they just slant everything. In New York to present an award for the UN? What us reported? Out for drinks with a designer. In Italy for a triathlon for Big Chahge, the charity she helped found? Beach vacation in Italy.

The royal family giving no recognition for their charity work (no I am not suggesting financial but some PR) allows it to get swept under the rug. If not fir the charities themselves and social media we would have little idea of things like Bea's trip to India for eye charity or Eugenie's recent trip.
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Old 10-03-2018, 10:57 PM
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Given the intense recent press interest in York family doings past and present, it is amazing that Jack's parents have managed to fly under the radar.

This makes me wonder who is paying public relations people to keep their names out of the press, and who is paying PR people to keep their names in, with mixed results.
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Old 10-03-2018, 11:57 PM
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Given the intense recent press interest in York family doings past and present, it is amazing that Jack's parents have managed to fly under the radar.

This makes me wonder who is paying public relations people to keep their names out of the press, and who is paying PR people to keep their names in, with mixed results.
It's not surprising to me. Unless they have embarrassing criminal records or they're ringing up the morning talk shows to give a saucy tell-all about E&J, there just won't be the interest there. Eugenie is too far from the throne and Jack won't be a HRH after marriage. There's even little interest in the family of non-HRH Tim Laurence and he's married to the daughter of a Queen instead of just a granddaughter. I do think that's a big reason that press is so harsh on wives of Windsor, because they get a HRH upon marriage, where nothing really changes for the married-in men unless they're in Prince Phillip's situation and are married to the direct heir.
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Old 10-04-2018, 12:02 AM
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I would doubt very much that Jack's family is paying any PR rep to keep their names in or out of the headlines. The Brooksbanks don't seem to have any scandalous relatives, or the Fail would have eagerly broadcast that. They just seem to be a nice, ordinary upper middleclass family with some aristo connections in the past and some money.

And there really isn't that much interest in Jack. If you asked fifty Brits who he was and showed them a photo I don't think that more than three would recognise him or his name, even with the wedding coming up. Jack just appears as a smiling male figure next to Eugenie 9/10s of the time when they are shown in newspapers.
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Old 10-04-2018, 09:53 AM
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I'm begging the Admin to "shut up" the haters and trollers re: Philip will boycott the wedding ... everyone hates Sarah … York family are freeloaders.

Really?
We know that the breakup of all three marriages were hard for their parents and Andrew and Charles divorces were both public and scandalous. But sensible people move on, grow, change and learn from their pasts.

The BRF seem both sensible and pragmatic like most people. Anyone with half a brain can see that Andrew and his girls are hard workers. Haters and trolls are just that, hateful and vicious. They have learnt nothing.
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Old 10-04-2018, 03:10 PM
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I'm begging the Admin to "shut up" the haters and trollers re: Philip will boycott the wedding ... everyone hates Sarah … York family are freeloaders.

Really?
People certainly don't like Sarah or Andrwe much..... so yes "really".. and the girls suffer a bit from that, esp since Beatrice at leat never seems to have a steady job..
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Old 10-04-2018, 03:18 PM
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It makes me wonder if the attitude that is being exhibited towards the York princesses will influence how much access the Sussexes will allow to their kids. They may conclude that they may be setting up their children for negativity if they share their kids with the public via things like picture releases and balcony appearances.
well, you can't have the butter and the money for the butter. either you are an official royal who gets paid a lot for the appearances you do on behalf of the crown and your kids are in the spotlight or your kids aren't and you take a second stage in your public duties and resign your appanage. they won't be able to shield their kids 'because of negativity' just because they want the positives of being part of the RF and not the negatives.
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Old 10-04-2018, 03:42 PM
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Eugenie and Jack: Wedding Suggestions and Musings Thread

Time to move on. The discussion of the York sisters’ perception in public is getting off topic, and the way the Sussexes will raise their children is completely off topic.
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Old 10-04-2018, 04:08 PM
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Yippee!! Those of us in the US will be able to watch the wedding on TLC!!
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Old 10-04-2018, 04:37 PM
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Here's more information.

https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/pri...ts-1202968366/

https://ew.com/tv/2018/10/04/watch-t...royal-wedding/

I'm excited that the wedding will be broadcast in the US.
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Old 10-04-2018, 05:12 PM
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That only works if you have cable etc...lots of folks don't! Me for one! lol


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Old 10-04-2018, 06:14 PM
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well, you can't have the butter and the money for the butter. either you are an official royal who gets paid a lot for the appearances you do on behalf of the crown and your kids are in the spotlight or your kids aren't and you take a second stage in your public duties and resign your appanage. they won't be able to shield their kids 'because of negativity' just because they want the positives of being part of the RF and not the negatives.
British Royals do NOT get paid for appearances. They don't have an 'appanage'.

The Queen gets the Sovereign Grant to use to cover official expenses of most of the royal family. Philip has a separate allowance for that purpose and the Wales branch of the family have that paid for from the Duchy of Cornwall.

The family - other than the Wales' branch - are supported by the Queen via the Duchy of Lancaster and various trust funds but they do NOT get paid by the government for anything. If there was no Duchy money then they would have no private income on which to live as any government money is for their official expenses such as the salaries of the private secretary and the cost associated with getting to and from an engagement but not for their personal use.

Mods - maybe this post, and the one to which I am replying, should be move to the Royal Finances thread or something else
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Old 10-04-2018, 06:18 PM
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Here's more information.

https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/pri...ts-1202968366/

https://ew.com/tv/2018/10/04/watch-t...royal-wedding/

I'm excited that the wedding will be broadcast in the US.

I like that they are going to do a rebroadcast.


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TLC will offer a three-hour commercial-free block as a live feed starting at 4:25 a.m. ET (tape delay on the West Coast) and repeating at 7:25 a.m. ET.
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Old 10-04-2018, 07:31 PM
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TLC makes sense. That a very wedding oriented channel. It is cable but they tend to do live-streams. They did one for the Sussexes. Either way there is a UK, US, and Australian option. People who want to see it will have access.
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Old 10-04-2018, 10:36 PM
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One US outlet to do this wedding. I expected Fox. The other major networks are just doing clips?
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Old 10-04-2018, 10:51 PM
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One US outlet to do this wedding. I expected Fox. The other major networks are just doing clips?


Fox covered Edward and Sophie’s wedding. But that was back in 1999(?).
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Old 10-05-2018, 09:22 PM
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That only works if you have cable etc...lots of folks don't! Me for one! lol
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Yeah, my only hope is the Royal Family Youtube Chanel. Otherwise I have to wait for it to turn up on youtube.
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Old 10-05-2018, 09:35 PM
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The TV PC link to watch the wedding outside the UK will be posted. This is the site- https://tvpc.us/ChannelList.php
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Old 10-06-2018, 10:25 AM
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Yep I figure I can watch it online!


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