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Do we know if Prince Philip is supposed to attend? He and Fergie on one bench, won't happen.
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Old 10-03-2018, 07:53 AM
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There's no reason to think Prince Phillip won't attend.


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Do we know if Prince Philip is supposed to attend? He and Fergie on one bench, won't happen.
Prince Philip, despite his quirks and his advanced age, has spent a lifetime in service of HMQ and the United Kingdom. There is no chance that he will behave in a less than dignified and appropriate manner even if Sarah is seated right next to him. Only if he is truly unwell will he miss his granddaughter’s wedding.
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Old 10-03-2018, 09:15 AM
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It's not about service or dignity, this isn't a public official event.

Its about his granddaughter who is getting married. Philip and Elizabeth are close to their grandkids. Unless he is too sick he will come, like he did for Harry even after surgery. He will put up with Fergie like he did in May.
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Old 10-03-2018, 09:42 AM
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It's not about service or dignity, this isn't a public official event.

Its about his granddaughter who is getting married. Philip and Elizabeth are close to their grandkids. Unless he is too sick he will come, like he did for Harry even after surgery. He will put up with Fergie like he did in May.
I only meant that his lifetime has instilled in him all the reserves of restraint that some think he needs in order to sit politely in church. I have never thought that there is any danger of unpleasantness by any party.
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Old 10-03-2018, 10:32 AM
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I can't see her sitting among all the senior royals waiting for Andrew and Beatrice to join her.
I really think you underestimate the English Politeness [and fundamental decency] here..

Whatever their deeper opinion of the Duchess NO-ONE will make her feel uncomfortable on what will be a happy day for her, and ALL of them.
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Old 10-03-2018, 03:27 PM
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I dint see why it would be nerve wracking. She has been around them at things like ascot. It's not the first time she has seen the family since the divorce. While I doubt she will be seated next to Philip or Charles, I don't see any nerves for her. She recently attended Harrys wedding and while not sitting with the family, it was similar. She will be too busy being the proud mom anyways.
You may well be right, and I certainly hope you are. If you get to see the wedding I hope you enjoy it.

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I really think you underestimate the English Politeness [and fundamental decency] here..

Whatever their deeper opinion of the Duchess NO-ONE will make her feel uncomfortable on what will be a happy day for her, and ALL of them.
My apologies, I didn't mean to suggest that anyone would be unpleasant or rude to her. I just meant that it will be an emotional day, and that there may be a few butterflies. Andrew and Sarah have remained close for moments like these, I hope they have a wonderful day.
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Old 10-03-2018, 03:55 PM
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I can't believe this discussion about Sarah is still going on. Eugenie is her daughter. She will be given the mother of the bride's place. Simple as that. It's not as if they are going to be forced to carry a long conversation with her. They can all sit there in that Quire during the ceremony, and they can more than avoid her later at the reception if they wish. There is no reason to make anymore of it.

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Do we know if Prince Philip is supposed to attend? He and Fergie on one bench, won't happen.
He will like sit in the second row while the York family sit in the first row like with the Sussex wedding. I believe the Queen prefers the first seat on the second row.
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I have no doubt Philip will be there. He attended Harry's after a surgery, a fall and a black eye. I mean... really? He will be there for his granddaughter.
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Old 10-03-2018, 04:01 PM
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Sorry Jacqui24, I think I stared it.
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Old 10-03-2018, 05:28 PM
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The wedding prep looks pretty extensive. About the TV coverage I wonder if ITV wants it because it's banking on a Fergie scandal to capture on film? ITV is not so high brow and the coverage is running through the morning show.
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Old 10-03-2018, 05:38 PM
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I can't believe this discussion about Sarah is still going on. Eugenie is her daughter. She will be given the mother of the bride's place. Simple as that. It's not as if they are going to be forced to carry a long conversation with her. They can all sit there in that Quire during the ceremony, and they can more than avoid her later at the reception if they wish. There is no reason to make anymore of it.



He will like sit in the second row while the York family sit in the first row like with the Sussex wedding. I believe the Queen prefers the first seat on the second row.

It's not a matter of preference. itd not like Westminster, there is a barrier infront of the seating. If Elizabeth sat front row str would either have to get up and move so those involved in the wedding like Andrew could get by her into their seat. Or she woukd have to sit further down. The seats closest to the altar are for the more important guests. It wouldn't be right to seat her further down.

Instead she is seated second row. And a seat empty infront so no one sits infront of her.
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Old 10-03-2018, 05:41 PM
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I can't believe this discussion about Sarah is still going on. Eugenie is her daughter. She will be given the mother of the bride's place. Simple as that. It's not as if they are going to be forced to carry a long conversation with her. They can all sit there in that Quire during the ceremony, and they can more than avoid her later at the reception if they wish. There is no reason to make anymore of it.



He will like sit in the second row while the York family sit in the first row like with the Sussex wedding. I believe the Queen prefers the first seat on the second row.
I keep saying that the whole Sarah vs Philip thing has been way overplayed by the media and folks online for far too long. This is a family wedding and the family will enjoy each other’s company for the celebrations.
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Old 10-03-2018, 05:59 PM
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And the debate rumbles on and on. Honestly, Philip will be there if his health allows it. Philip will grin and bear being near Fergie if it makes his grand-daughter happy on her wedding day. IMO the more people and the media debate it the more likely it is that Philip will turn up knowing if he doesn't it will cast a shadow over Eugenie's wedding day.
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Old 10-03-2018, 07:58 PM
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I'm begging the Admin to "shut up" the haters and trollers re: Philip will boycott the wedding ... everyone hates Sarah … York family are freeloaders.

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Old 10-03-2018, 08:12 PM
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These people are often only repeating what is said in the media and from their own experience.

For Instance: In 2015 I spent four weeks in London (and did a 'which royal I spotted today update at the time). I also reported on the responses to a range of questions about various royals at the places where I met royal fans etc. The overwhelming response, from my personal survey, was that the Yorks are detested by everyone - not one person I spoke to had a good word to say about them. I never claimed to speak to everyone in Britain of course, but over that four weeks I would have asked about 200 - 300 British people their thoughts on the various members of the BRF and the lot said the same thing about the Yorks.

There have been reports for years about the feelings of many members of the BRF on Sarah - Philip pointedly refuses to go to Balmoral until after she has made her annual visit. That is very clear. Charles also refuses to have anything to do with her - that is well-reported. Harry, on the other hand, does seem to spend some time with her when she is with her daughters and has holidayed with her and the rest of the Yorks in Switzerland.

The general feeling is that the Yorks are the most disliked branch of the family - that is a rather incontestable fact.

Sadly Andrew's antics over the years has dragged his family down and even though he carries out many engagements his work is ignored and he is thus seen as a waste of space and a freeloader. The media constantly reports on the girls 'vacations' giving rise to the 'freeloader' tag again.

Unless people are prepared to actually do some research into what the girls do - and Andrew for that matter - the media will continue with this approach and the public will lap it up.
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Old 10-03-2018, 08:36 PM
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The wedding prep looks pretty extensive. About the TV coverage I wonder if ITV wants it because it's banking on a Fergie scandal to capture on film? ITV is not so high brow and the coverage is running through the morning show. Fergie raised stinks at the Cambridge and Sussex wesdings so is it hoping for a mess for this wedding?
I think ITV is counting on viewers wanting to see the lovely princess bride in a diamond tiara, her adorable fiancé, Her Majesty, the royal family and all of the famous guests turned out in their finest.
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Old 10-03-2018, 08:46 PM
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Sadly Andrew's antics over the years has dragged his family down and even though he carries out many engagements his work is ignored and he is thus seen as a waste of space and a freeloader. The media constantly reports on the girls 'vacations' giving rise to the 'freeloader' tag again.

Unless people are prepared to actually do some research into what the girls do - and Andrew for that matter - the media will continue with this approach and the public will lap it up.
It seems that Beatrice and Eugenie are easily lumped together because while there have indeed been times in which Beatrice's trips were coming up again and again in the media; Eugenie always seems to have received less media attention regarding her holidays (she might travel less - instead concentrating on her job and charity work).

So, to me it seems people are projecting not only her parents' but also her sister's behavior/image on her.
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Old 10-03-2018, 09:25 PM
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These people are often only repeating what is said in the media and from their own experience.

For Instance: In 2015 I spent four weeks in London (and did a 'which royal I spotted today update at the time). I also reported on the responses to a range of questions about various royals at the places where I met royal fans etc. The overwhelming response, from my personal survey, was that the Yorks are detested by everyone - not one person I spoke to had a good word to say about them. I never claimed to speak to everyone in Britain of course, but over that four weeks I would have asked about 200 - 300 British people their thoughts on the various members of the BRF and the lot said the same thing about the Yorks.

There have been reports for years about the feelings of many members of the BRF on Sarah - Philip pointedly refuses to go to Balmoral until after she has made her annual visit. That is very clear. Charles also refuses to have anything to do with her - that is well-reported. Harry, on the other hand, does seem to spend some time with her when she is with her daughters and has holidayed with her and the rest of the Yorks in Switzerland.

The general feeling is that the Yorks are the most disliked branch of the family - that is a rather incontestable fact.

Sadly Andrew's antics over the years has dragged his family down and even though he carries out many engagements his work is ignored and he is thus seen as a waste of space and a freeloader. The media constantly reports on the girls 'vacations' giving rise to the 'freeloader' tag again.

Unless people are prepared to actually do some research into what the girls do - and Andrew for that matter - the media will continue with this approach and the public will lap it up.
I think it’s safe to say...the York’s are the official Everlast Punching Bags to the media and folks online. Rumors and reports have been going on for years and unfortunately it all stuck.
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Old 10-03-2018, 09:34 PM
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It seems that Beatrice and Eugenie are easily lumped together because while there have indeed been times in which Beatrice's trips were coming up again and again in the media; Eugenie always seems to have received less media attention regarding her holidays (she might travel less - instead concentrating on her job and charity work).

So, to me it seems people are projecting not only her parents' but also her sister's behavior/image on her.
Eugenie gets plenty of her own. Like when she was in Florida they did an article about her out drinking in Miami when she was in Florida as her gallery was running a week long exhibition which she was involved in. Same with LA.

Beatrice is an easier target as they aren't quite sure what she does for a job so they just slant everything. In New York to present an award for the UN? What us reported? Out for drinks with a designer. In Italy for a triathlon for Big Chahge, the charity she helped found? Beach vacation in Italy.

The royal family giving no recognition for their charity work (no I am not suggesting financial but some PR) allows it to get swept under the rug. If not fir the charities themselves and social media we would have little idea of things like Bea's trip to India for eye charity or Eugenie's recent trip.
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