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Old 10-02-2019, 06:05 PM
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While we are waiting for more news of the wedding, the next best thing is the groom's family. What a soap opera-even though a very posh one!
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Old 10-02-2019, 06:41 PM
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Yikes..Edo's father has had four wives?!
Three that I know of:
(1) 1978 - Nicola Burrows (Edo's mother), divorced
(2) 1994 - Fiona M. Wilson
(3) Ebba Margaretha Antonie von Eckermann

But he was wife #3's fourth husband.
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Old 10-02-2019, 06:47 PM
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Yikes..Edo's father has had four wives?!
No, it seems he had three. His third wife had four husbands...

Edo's mother is currently married to her third husband as well. However, her second husband died about 8 years ago. So, she divorced only once.
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:07 PM
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Apparently Alex and Ebba had a company together but as from 2016 Ebba become the sole owner and changed her name back to von Eckermann (see here); so this could be her fourth and his third divorce (if they indeed divorced but that seems the most likely explanation).

And if so, formally I would say she is no longer his stepmother, nor are her children out of either one of her previous marriages his stepsiblings.
I believe you're right. Her mother's 2018 death announcement lists Margareta [Ebba goes by her middle name] without a spouse but her brother Hans is listed with his wife Kerstin.

https://www.svd.se/dodsannonser#/Cas...on%20Eckermann

The guest list just got smaller....
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Old 10-02-2019, 08:14 PM
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Does Edoardo's mother have any brothers and sister?
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Old 10-02-2019, 08:54 PM
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Does Edoardo's mother have any brothers and sister?
She has one older sister, one younger brother, and one younger sister:

#1 Carolyn Elizabeth Burrows (born 1954 died 2015) married 1976 to Graham N. Peck

#2 Richard D. Burrows (born 1959)

#3 Philippa A. Burrows (born 1965) married 1991 to Mark David Wiggin

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Old 10-02-2019, 09:13 PM
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Three that I know of:
(1) 1978 - Nicola Burrows (Edo's mother), divorced
(2) 1994 - Fiona M. Wilson
(3) Ebba Margaretha Antonie von Eckermann

But he was wife #3's fourth husband.
Anything known of this second wife? I have found no mention of her outside your posts.
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:43 PM
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No one has answered whether or not Edo speaks Italian. I haven't found any mention in his bio details online. I would suspect that he does speak Italian. It's not unusual for many well-educated Europeans to speak multiple languages.

Edo's Instagram includes some great photos of the properties he develops and sells:
https://www.instagram.com/edomapellimozzi/?hl=en
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:04 PM
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Anything known of this second wife? I have found no mention of her outside your posts.

I'm attaching my source. I know nothing else about her.

EDIT: Just found another website that mentions Fiona Mapelli Mozzi:
https://angloeuropeanstudbook.co.uk/...-mapelli-mozzi
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:56 PM
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No one has answered whether or not Edo speaks Italian. I haven't found any mention in his bio details online. I would suspect that he does speak Italian. It's not unusual for many well-educated Europeans to speak multiple languages.

Edo's Instagram includes some great photos of the properties he develops and sells:
https://www.instagram.com/edomapellimozzi/?hl=en
I asked the same questions and got no answer, but my guess based on Edo's education, background and social circle is that he is probably at least proficient in the Italian language.
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Old 10-03-2019, 01:25 AM
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No one has answered whether or not Edo speaks Italian. I haven't found any mention in his bio details online. I would suspect that he does speak Italian. It's not unusual for many well-educated Europeans to speak multiple languages.

Edo's Instagram includes some great photos of the properties he develops and sells:
https://www.instagram.com/edomapellimozzi/?hl=en
But it's unfortunately not uncommon for many well educated British people not to speak anything but English. I have a friend who has a similar family history except Swedish and French and she speaks neither fluently but is highly educated and has relatives in both countries etc. I might be doing him a big disservice but I don't think it's a given. It's one of the areas British people/the education system gets lazy compared to our continental counterparts, even if connections. Especially if he hasn't spent a lot of time with his father compared to his step father, I believe there were rumours about that when they first started dating.
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Sure, the same is true of English-speaking Americans.
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The British media loves to put a label on people. By labelling him an "Italian tycoon" they're just preparing for a narrative they'll use against him for the rest of his life.
See also 'Phil the Greek' who, while born in Greece is as British as tweed. Having lived here since he was 7 and been in the British armed services.
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No one has answered whether or not Edo speaks Italian. I haven't found any mention in his bio details online. I would suspect that he does speak Italian. It's not unusual for many well-educated Europeans to speak multiple languages.

Edo's Instagram includes some great photos of the properties he develops and sells:
https://www.instagram.com/edomapellimozzi/?hl=en
I think he's just as likely to speak French or Spanish as he is to speak Italian.
He grew up in the UK; probably has visited Italy and has some relatives there but doesn't have a home there.
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Edo's ancestry has been traced back to an illegitimate son of King Federigo II (or III) of Sicily (1272-1337).

Federigo was a descendant of several other royal families (of course) including Thibaut II, Count of Champagne, the older brother of King Stephen of England and maternal grandson of William the Conqueror.

https://maltagenealogy.com/Edoardo-Mapelli-Mozzi
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Old 07-23-2020, 11:44 AM
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But Edoardo is referred to as "Conte" in that document. I thought his Italian title had been abolished?
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But Edoardo is referred to as "Conte" in that document. I thought his Italian title had been abolished?
The Republic of Italy does not recognise titles of nobility but that does not mean that the nobility and their titles have gone away. It's still there and many families retain their wealth, their status and use their titles socially. Nobody in Italy would find it strange if Edo used his title in and, British legislators aside, neither would most other Europeans.
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The Republic of Italy does not recognise titles of nobility but that does not mean that the nobility and their titles have gone away. It's still there and many families retain their wealth, their status and use their titles socially. Nobody in Italy would find it strange if Edo used his title in and, British legislators aside, neither would most other Europeans.
I think its rather silly to keep on using titles of nobility in a republic.. its like still calling yourself King of X when you are living in exile adn your family has not reigned in 3 generations...
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I think its rather silly to keep on using titles of nobility in a republic.. its like still calling yourself King of X when you are living in exile adn your family has not reigned in 3 generations...

Titles belong to families. And it makes sense for families to continue using them. It is a tradition.
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But Edoardo is referred to as "Conte" in that document. I thought his Italian title had been abolished?
Isn't that a family tree, not a legal document?


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The Republic of Italy does not recognise titles of nobility but that does not mean that the nobility and their titles have gone away. It's still there and many families retain their wealth, their status and use their titles socially. Nobody in Italy would find it strange if Edo used his title in and, British legislators aside, neither would most other Europeans.
Used socially, yes, but in obedience to the law the titles have indeed "gone away" from official documents. Wasn't there a court case concerning one of the Savoys, indicating that he is named in legal documents as simply Mr. Savoia Aosta?


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Titles belong to families. And it makes sense for families to continue using them. It is a tradition.
I would say that whether such traditions make sense must take into account their society and its culture and laws. It may make sense for families to continue using abolished titles in Italy, but it would make little sense in countries such as Austria or China.
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