Beatrice and Edoardo: Wedding Suggestions and Musings Thread

[Countessmeout]

I don't see any reason to think it will be any quieter then originally planned. They wouldn't have cancelled it and simply rescheduled if they were planning a small quiet family affair down the line.

Covid is not a reason to quiet the wedding. Its all the more reason to celebrate when things pass and life starts getting back to normal.

Fortunately for them unlike other couples, they don't have to worry about the cost of changing, or of a venue being free.

 

[Iluvbertie]

While I agree that Beatrice's wedding will be a smaller affair than her sister's, they'll still have a big ceremony and a big party (at least in normal people standards) - IF it will be allowed, because we can't say how the world is going to look whenever they decide to schedule their wedding - it'll just be completely private, with maybe official pictures released somewhere.

And honestly, it makes me so sad that the Andrew failure is being transmitted on Beatrice, who did absolutely nothing wrong. This negativity is completely unnecessary and, IMHO, completely misplaced.

A garden party reception at BP sounds really, really amazing, I agree!

A church that holds no more than 150 guests is small by most people's standards these days. All weddings I have been to recently had had at least double that at the wedding and even more at the reception.

Due to social distancing I would think if they want to stick to 150 guests (assuming they ever wanted that number) they will have to change the venue. If they want to stay at St James' I would expect the guest numbers to have to drop to around 40 - 50.

Again due to social distancing I don't think the sort of reception that was planned will be happening (along with any other large gathering of people).

She will either have to get married in a much smaller way than planned or delay the wedding for possibly years.

 

[MsLeonie]

A church that holds no more than 150 guests is small by most people's standards these days. All weddings I have been to recently had had at least double that at the wedding and even more at the reception.

Due to social distancing I would think if they want to stick to 150 guests (assuming they ever wanted that number) they will have to change the venue. If they want to stay at St James' I would expect the guest numbers to have to drop to around 40 - 50.

Again due to social distancing I don't think the sort of reception that was planned will be happening (along with any other large gathering of people).

She will either have to get married in a much smaller way than planned or delay the wedding for possibly years.

Hopefully, by next Spring or Summer "social distancing" will be long over and almost forgotten. There will be a vaccine for this horrible thing and we can all go back to whatever normal was before March 2020.

I think Bea will have the wedding she and Edo want; maybe not a "royal" wedding as we have come to expect, but something lavish and worthy of her status. She has done nothing wrong and deserves to have her dream wedding.

 

[Denville]

Hopefully, by next Spring or Summer "social distancing" will be long over and almost forgotten. There will be a vaccine for this horrible thing and we can all go back to whatever normal was before March 2020.

I think Bea will have the wedding she and Edo want; maybe not a "royal" wedding as we have come to expect, but something lavish and worthy of her status. She has done nothing wrong and deserves to have her dream wedding.

very unlikely that things will be "normal" as before, again. WE don't know when there's going ot be a vaccine. social distancing may have to be part of our lives for some time to come.

 

[Winnie]

Lets be honest, a lot could happen in a year's time to affect a huge wedding. Social changes still being followed. Traveling not back to prior ease and even close family death which would certainly affect wedding. I don't think it bothers the couple as they are living together and enjoying life. The formal wedding will just be a lovely party but won't actually change their life style. Not like when we wed back in late 50s early 60s. Times and traditions have changed.

 

[MsLeonie]

Lets be honest, a lot could happen in a year's time to affect a huge wedding. Social changes still being followed. Traveling not back to prior ease and even close family death which would certainly affect wedding. I don't think it bothers the couple as they are living together and enjoying life. The formal wedding will just be a lovely party but won't actually change their life style. Not like when we wed back in late 50s early 60s. Times and traditions have changed.

They may very well be enjoying their life right now but they can't have babies until the "lovely party" takes place. They are both in their 30s and might want a child before Edo's boy gets much older. I don't know but it seems to me Bea wouldn't want to wait another 10 years to marry someone she loves.

very unlikely that things will be "normal" as before, again. WE don't know when there's going ot be a vaccine. social distancing may have to be part of our lives for some time to come.

There will be a vaccine in the coming months and COVID19 will become like the flu . . . we get a vaccine every year and go on with our lives. There is no way people can distance themselves from others forever or even for "some time to come" because we are social animals and we need to be together, at least occasionally. Even now, against orders from authorities, people are congregating on beaches and in restaurants.

We have amazing scientists around the world and there will probably be a vaccine within the year and things WILL get back to normal. If I can't be optimistic and believe that then I might as well not live anymore. What would be the point?

 

[Lumutqueen]

They may very well be enjoying their life right now but they can't have babies until the "lovely party" takes place.

Beatrice and Edo can have babies whenever they want, whether they choose to is a different matter. However they can have them.

 

[Denville]

There will be a vaccine in the coming months and COVID19 will become like the flu . . . we get a vaccine every year and go on with our lives. There is no way people can distance themselves from others forever or even for "some time to come" because we are social animals and we need to be together, at least occasionally. Even now, against orders from authorities, people are congregating on beaches and in restaurants.

We have amazing scientists around the world and there will probably be a vaccine within the year and things WILL get back to normal. If I can't be optimistic and believe that then I might as well not live anymore. What would be the point?

this is kind of off topic, but we don't know what is going to happen and I doubt if the whole problem is just going to go away in a few months.

 

[Denville]

Beatrice and Edo can have babies whenever they want, whether they choose to is a different matter. However they can have them.

I'd say they will wait until they are married...but I would say that a small quiet private wedding would be possible in a few months time.. if they want a bigger one, mayebe a years's time.

 

[Mirabel]

There will be a vaccine in the coming months and COVID19 will become like the flu . . . we get a vaccine every year and go on with our lives. There is no way people can distance themselves from others forever or even for "some time to come" because we are social animals and we need to be together, at least occasionally. Even now, against orders from authorities, people are congregating on beaches and in restaurants.

I agree completely.
People can't live in lockdown for very long; violations are becoming prevalent.
Things will begin to reopen very soon, I feel certain.

 

[Iluvbertie]

There will be a vaccine in the coming months and COVID19 will become like the flu . . . we get a vaccine every year and go on with our lives. There is no way people can distance themselves from others forever or even for "some time to come" because we are social animals and we need to be together, at least occasionally. Even now, against orders from authorities, people are congregating on beaches and in restaurants.

We have amazing scientists around the world and there will probably be a vaccine within the year and things WILL get back to normal. If I can't be optimistic and believe that then I might as well not live anymore. What would be the point?

I am glad you are so confident that there will be a vaccine this year. I hope you are right but ... these 'amazing scientists' have been trying, since the 1930s to find a vaccine for any human corona virus and have failed every time.

These 'amazing scientists' have been trying for nearly 40 years to get a vaccine for HIV - and failed.

A vaccine isn't a given - even WHO admits that.

For every 100 stage 2 or stage 3 test for a vaccine less than 1 is successful.

Hopefully this time will be different but the statistics aren't on the side of a successful vaccine and getting one in 18 months is extremely fast as it normally takes five to ten years to properly test any vaccine. What we could easily see is another thalomide situation - a not properly tested medication that was taken by many with appalling results - due to a desire to get a treatment out fast rather than properly.

 

[Denville]

Agree. I think that we have to accept that there wont be a vaccine any time soon, and that we will have to go on being careful. Scientists and doctors aren't always that "amazing". Of course lockdown can't go on forever but IMO there will be problems and restrictions on travel and limits to socialising which involves big crowds...
If people start "acting normally" too soon, there may be a second wave of illness and deaths.

 

[Sister Morphine]

There will be a vaccine in the coming months and COVID19 will become like the flu . . . we get a vaccine every year and go on with our lives. There is no way people can distance themselves from others forever or even for "some time to come" because we are social animals and we need to be together, at least occasionally. Even now, against orders from authorities, people are congregating on beaches and in restaurants.

We have amazing scientists around the world and there will probably be a vaccine within the year and things WILL get back to normal. If I can't be optimistic and believe that then I might as well not live anymore. What would be the point?

No, no there won't. It takes years sometimes to develop a vaccine. Yes, amazing scientists around the world are working around the clock to get something going, but they're human beings and subject to the limitations of human intelligence and endurance.

Also, things will never get back to normal, not like we knew them to once be. That's a fact of life now, so best get over it. Asian countries have made wearing face masks a part of their culture to stop the spread of viruses, and the rest of the world needs to follow suit. Maybe keeping some distance between you and a complete stranger in public is a good thing. I don't need someone breathing down my neck while standing in line at Starbucks or the grocery store or wherever else. I would like to think this pandemic has taught people that washing your hands, wearing a mask, keeping space between you and the next person are all intelligent, healthy ways to go about daily life, but as we've seen here in the United States, too many people are lazy, entitled, spoiled nitwits who don't care how many tens of thousands of people have died, they want their haircut or their mojito or their trip to the beach.

More Americans have died in the last 90 days than died in World War I. Think about that. An entire world war's worth of deaths in three months. It'll be well over 200,000 before the end of the year. Watch. People don't care.

 

[sophie25]

They may very well be enjoying their life right now but they can't have babies until the "lovely party" takes place. They are both in their 30s and might want a child before Edo's boy gets much older. I don't know but it seems to me Bea wouldn't want to wait another 10 years to marry someone she loves.



There will be a vaccine in the coming months and COVID19 will become like the flu . . . we get a vaccine every year and go on with our lives. There is no way people can distance themselves from others forever or even for "some time to come" because we are social animals and we need to be together, at least occasionally. Even now, against orders from authorities, people are congregating on beaches and in restaurants.

We have amazing scientists around the world and there will probably be a vaccine within the year and things WILL get back to normal. If I can't be optimistic and believe that then I might as well not live anymore. What would be the point?

I agree with you, there is being alive and physically breathing and there is actually living a full life. If we can't do the latter within the foreseeable future then there would be no point in being alive just for the sake it.

 

[yvr girl]

We still don't have a vaccine for AIDS and they have been looking for that for years, so there is no guarantee. If they came out with one this fall I'm not sure I would get it. I'm not sure it would be sufficiently tested.

My guess with Bea and Edo is that they are willing to wait for a length of time for their dream wedding. When that clock ticks down, if things haven't changed, they will alter their plans.

 

[Moonmaiden23]

I so much want to see these two get their happy ending soon.

 

[Countessmeout]

You should want them to get their happy ending, period.

The only ones who seem in a rush for them to marry are those who want another royal wedding. The couple made the choice to wait, instead of having a small ceremony and having a big party later.

They should get the wedding they dream of and seem content to wait.

 

[Heavs]

They live together, have survived lockdown together (we assume) and have publicly and privately declared their intentions to make their relationship life long, Bea apparently gets on very well with his son and both their families are supportive. In some respects they're already 90% of the way there.

And if there comes a time when a big wedding still isn't possible but they "just want to be married already" or start trying for a child then by that point the CofE will probably be doing the 5 person (maybe more) wedding again, they're already in active talks with the government. Then they can have the reception much later.

If they continue to wait we'll have to assume they've weighed up the issues and decided it's worth it.

 

[Denville]

They live together, have survived lockdown together (we assume) and have publicly and privately declared their intentions to make their relationship life long, Bea apparently gets on very well with his son and both their families are supportive. In some respects they're already 90% of the way there.

And if there comes a time when a big wedding still isn't possible but they "just want to be married already" or start trying for a child then by that point the CofE will probably be doing the 5 person (maybe more) wedding again, they're already in active talks with the government. Then they can have the reception much later.

If they continue to wait we'll have to assume they've weighed up the issues and decided it's worth it.

Its up to them. Personally I woudl have a quiet wedding but I dont think Bea is going to opt for that...

 

[Mirabel]

The only ones who seem in a rush for them to marry are those who want another royal wedding.

Guilty as charged!
Personally I hope they do wait and have a nice wedding. It's really the last chance for a royal wedding for years.

But it will be whatever they decide.

 

[Moonmaiden23]

You should want them to get their happy ending, period.

The only ones who seem in a rush for them to marry are those who want another royal wedding. The couple made the choice to wait, instead of having a small ceremony and having a big party later.

They should get the wedding they dream of and seem content to wait.

I want them to get their happy ending SOON. It's not a matter of me "wanting to rush to see another Royal wedding". That's what Youtube is for. And since they are choosing to have the quietest and most private of weddings, there won't be that much to see anyway.

In their engagement announcement the couple literally said that they " couldn't wait" to marry.

How do you know that they are "content" with the delays? You've spoken to them and verified it?

I made a simple statement of support for Bea and Edo. It was my opinion. It doesn't need to become a point of debate.

 

[Mbruno]

Guilty as charged!
Personally I hope they do wait and have a nice wedding. It's really the last chance for a royal wedding for years.

But it will be whatever they decide.

Princess Beatrice is only 31. She can probably safely wait another year or two to get married without any major risk to possible future children (Meghan for example had Archie when she was 38).


Even though many people are not seeing a light at the end of the tunnel, it is unlikely that the Covid-19 pandemic will not be sufficiently controlled two years from now to the point of preventing people from having "normal" wedding ceremonies. Although I am not a virologist or an expert in any sense, comparisons with HIV are inadequate in my humble opinion as, epidemiologically, Covid-19 is much more like the Spanish Flu for example than HIV/Aids, i.e. most people recover from the disease and develop antibodies that give them at least some level of immunity for some time and a vaccine is probably likely to be developed at some point, however long it may take.

 

[Nice Nofret]

as HIV/Aids isnt' transmitted via Aerosoles .. it is a totally diffrent matter in regard to congregations

 

[Mbruno]

as HIV/Aids isnt' transmitted via Aerosoles .. it is a totally diffrent matter in regard to congregations

My comment was not about the different modes of transmission of HIV and SARS-Cov-2, but rather about the likelihood of developing a Covid-19 vaccine vs developing an HIV vaccine.

 

[Denville]

I want them to get their happy ending SOON. It's not a matter of me "wanting to rush to see another Royal wedding". That's what Youtube is for. And since they are choosing to have the quietest and most private of weddings, there won't be that much to see anyway.

In their engagement announcement the couple literally said that they " couldn't wait" to marry.

How do you know that they are "content" with the delays? You've spoken to them and verified it?

I made a simple statement of support for Bea and Edo. It was my opinion. It doesn't need to become a point of debate.

Are they "having the quietist and most private of weddings?" I thought that it was on hold indefinitely.....

 

[Somebody]

Are they "having the quietist and most private of weddings?" I thought that it was on hold indefinitely.....

Compared to the other British royal highnesses that recently wed. Yes, their's was supposed to be the most private.

To me it is telling that they at first only cancelled the larger party and not the actual marriage ceremony itself. That was only done at a later date (when if I am not mistaken marriages could no longer take place). So, that suggests that having a large party on their wedding day is not the most important consideration. They clearly look forward to be married and were willing to 'sacrifice' some of their original dreams to go forward with the marriage itself. In the end, it didn't work out that way - mostly because of the extremely strict regulations in the UK (much stricter than in other countries).

 

[Heavs]

I suspect the parties were supposed to be on par with her sister's (and we ended up getting quite a lot of footage from those).

I know of a lot of bride and grooms who are definitely not "content" with the delays and cancellations but it can't be helped and in my personal experience there is a mix of people who just want the 5 person wedding that will be soonest, those willing to wait until the guest list can be a little bigger and those who want to hold out for as much of their original plan can be salvaged in 1-2 years.

We'll have to wait and see which category these two fall into. Unlike most couples they won't have to be at the mercy of church/venue/catering/entertainment hire availability as much as others will be.

 

[Countessmeout]

I want them to get their happy ending SOON. It's not a matter of me "wanting to rush to see another Royal wedding". That's what Youtube is for. And since they are choosing to have the quietest and most private of weddings, there won't be that much to see anyway.

In their engagement announcement the couple literally said that they " couldn't wait" to marry.

How do you know that they are "content" with the delays? You've spoken to them and verified it?

I made a simple statement of support for Bea and Edo. It was my opinion. It doesn't need to become a point of debate.

This entire board is speculation. No one knows them.

Most couples if not all say when they get engaged 'we cant wait to get married'. That's standard.

They had the option to get married on.If they weren't happy waiting, they could have married with 2 witnesses back when weddings of 5 were allowed. Instead they Chose to put their wedding on hold indefinitely. Which unless someone forced them to do this and they are under coercion, points to them being happy with waiting until they can have a proper wedding.


Happy does not mean ecstatic and dancing for joy. It means that they aren't screaming in anger and anxious to run to elope the second they are allowed to.

Isn't debating our opinions the whole point of this board?

 

[Denville]

I thnk the period when one could have a 5 person wedding was relativley brief.. and soon weddings were completley banned. So possibly they were uncertain what to do, after all, B is the queen's grand daughter and she might want her at the wedding.. adn before tehy could fully decide suddenly weddings were completely off the table.

 

[Somebody]

This entire board is speculation. No one knows them.

Most couples if not all say when they get engaged 'we cant wait to get married'. That's standard.

They had the option to get married on.If they weren't happy waiting, they could have married with 2 witnesses back when weddings of 5 were allowed. Instead they Chose to put their wedding on hold indefinitely. Which unless someone forced them to do this and they are under coercion, points to them being happy with waiting until they can have a proper wedding.

Happy does not mean ecstatic and dancing for joy. It means that they aren't screaming in anger and anxious to run to elope the second they are allowed to.

Isn't debating our opinions the whole point of this board?

How would they have been in the know that the option to get married with a small number would no longer be available by late May? I don't think it was reasonable to expect people to suddenly go from: we're having a rather large wedding at the end of May to let's get married next week with only 5 people present (meaning you cannot even include your parents and child - let alone the siblings that you're close to or your grandparents (including the queen)) because the government might decide to put all marriages on hold.

We don't know what they would have done had the UK permitted weddings up to about 30 people as some other countries opted for instead. I wouldn't be surprised if in that case they would have chosen to go ahead with the wedding ceremony.

So, indeed, it doesn't seem that they are willing to get married without even their closest family members (and friends) present but neither did the way they expressed their changes based on unexpected circumstances suggest they want to wait to get married until the original plan can fully be implemented.