Beatrice and Edoardo: Wedding Suggestions and Musings Thread - Page 7

theroyalfly · #**121** 09-30-2019, 01:05 AM

Some families from the deposed German royal family and nobility might attend too. It is to note that Cleo von Adelsheim, the current, Hereditary Princess of Oettingen-Oettingen and Oettingen-Spielberg and husband also attended both Prince Harry and Princess Eugenie's wedding and they are also good friends.

It will be a jam-packed wedding with the Italian and British nobility, the Greek royals and maybe some of the current and deposed royal families and some noble houses, the Hanoverians, Grimaldis and Bismarcks to name a few and some celebrities.

Iluvbertie · #**122** 09-30-2019, 01:59 AM

If there are to be Germans there I would expect those who are the most closely related to Beatrice - such as her father's first cousins and their descendants via Philip's sisters.

They often visit and stay with the royals at Sandringham for instance.

Countessmeout · #**123** 09-30-2019, 02:48 AM

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If there are to be Germans there I would expect those who are the most closely related to Beatrice - such as her father's first cousins and their descendants via Philip's sisters.

They often visit and stay with the royals at Sandringham for instance.

Yes they often stay with the queen and her husband. The older generation are connected and have a relationship.

We didnt see any of the German relatives at Harry or Eugenie's wedding. I see no reason to think they'd be invited to Beatrice's either. Those who are invited will have some link to the couple.

Franz-Albrecht is an old hunting friend of Harry's, and knows the York girls it seems. He attended as a private friend of both Harry and Eugenie to their weddings. The York girls attended both of the Hannover weddings, including making the trip to Lima to attend Christian's religious wedding.

Her father's cousins are all much older then Andrew, those who are still alive (many have passed away). And there is really no connection to the bride but for blood.

William had a few German relatives but he also had a far more extensive list.

Mirabel · #**124** 09-30-2019, 09:02 AM

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Come to think of it, even though it will not happen the potential for a very large and varied guest list might be the reason some book makers are suggesting the wedding will take place at Westminster Abbey.

Would a wedding at the Abbey really be an impossibility?
Even though Harry and her sister didn't have one, there doesn't seem to be any real reason Beatrice couldn't.

It might be a bit more disruptive, but not that much if they eliminate the carriage ride.

And a wedding at WA wouldn't seem like a rerun of her sister's.

O-H Anglophile · #**125** 09-30-2019, 09:23 AM

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Would a wedding at the Abbey really be an impossibility?
Even though Harry and her sister didn't have one, there doesn't seem to be any real reason Beatrice couldn't.

It might be a bit more disruptive, but not that much if they eliminate the carriage ride.

And a wedding at WA wouldn't seem like a rerun of her sister's.

Security would cost much more in London than at Windsor.

Many people get married in the same church as their sister. Not a big deal.

It seems the BRF is reserving WA these days for weddings of direct heirs.

Moonmaiden23 · #**126** 09-30-2019, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mirabel

Would a wedding at the Abbey really be an impossibility?
Even though Harry and her sister didn't have one, there doesn't seem to be any real reason Beatrice couldn't.

It might be a bit more disruptive, but not that much if they eliminate the carriage ride.

And a wedding at WA wouldn't seem like a rerun of her sister's.

As lovely as I find St. George's Windsor, I would be ecstatic if the wedding took place at Westminster Abbey.

But unless the families are willing to pay the added security costs out of their personal funds, I doubt it.

sophie25 · #**127** 09-30-2019, 10:28 AM

If the wedding takes place at the Abbey I suppose we might also get a balcony appearance. It would be a bit OTT though for such a junior member of the family.

Osipi · #**128** 09-30-2019, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mirabel

Would a wedding at the Abbey really be an impossibility?
Even though Harry and her sister didn't have one, there doesn't seem to be any real reason Beatrice couldn't.

It might be a bit more disruptive, but not that much if they eliminate the carriage ride.

And a wedding at WA wouldn't seem like a rerun of her sister's.

Its not out of being a possibility for this upcoming wedding. What matters though is what the Queen decides.

In this kind of a decision, its a matter of the Queen acting in both of her roles as Granny and as a monarch and the Supreme Governor of the Church of England as Westminster Abbey is a royal peculiar just at St. George's is in Windsor. It would be her decision on either venue.

If Beatrice is dead set (or Andrew even) on Westminster Abbey, it kind of puts HM between a rock and hard place making a decision. We saw that with the possibility of Andrew requesting WA for Eugenie. It was actually a valid request and the Queen acted as she saw was the right move. I don't see her doing differently for Beatrice. Its not a wedding of a working senior royal for the "Firm" and actually Beatrice is more or less, a princess of the blood with a private life. That description does not require any part of the monarchy to recognize and celebrate. The Princess Royal's children weddings are a good example.

Perhaps its all been planned long ago in the respect that in the future, the monarchy itself will be slimmed down and the huge, grandiose weddings that will be lauded and televised will relate only to the heirs apparent and their family. There's been rumors y'know.

It still stands that various venues are "royal prerogatives" and in that way of taking HM's role in it tells me that it will be she that determines the right and wrong of where Beatrice's wedding will take place (in respect to WA vs. St. George Chapel at Windsor) and up to her. I don't see Beatrice demanding a venue from the Queen. St. Paul's was decided on for Charles and Diana solely because of the room needed for a full state wedding of the heir to the throne. None of this applies to Beatrice on the monarchical level and actually makes it easier to say "no" and explain why.

Pranter · #**129** 09-30-2019, 11:46 AM

If you go by Andrew's interview when he said the Queen decided for Eugenie's wedding venue then we can pretty much bet Beatrice will marry at St Georges ....highly doubtful she would marry at W.A.

LaRae

Jacknch · #**130** 09-30-2019, 01:14 PM

A low-key wedding at Westminster Abbey could be quite easily achieved without the expectation of it being a full-blown processional event. Many events have taken place over the years at the Abbey with the Royal Family in attendance (such as commemorative services etc) without a processional route from and back to Buckingham Palace.

Maybe Westminster Abbey is to be reserved only for direct heirs to the throne (so the next one there will be Prince George's wedding) and everyone else from Princess Charlotte down may marry in St George's. If that is the case, then of course it explains why Harry and Meghan married at St George's.

But then possibly there is also a question of personal taste - I am quite sure that if Beatrice and Edoardo really loved Westminster Abbey as a venue and had a particular fondness for it, Her Majesty would agree for them to be married there. Much like Lord Frederik Windsor preferred to be married at Hampton Court, whilst Lady Gabriella preferred St George's Chapel.

Remember that back in the day when Charles and Diana married, St Paul's was chosen because Charles preferred it's acoustics and wanted the music to be a focus of the event. Westminster Abbey was not a set-in-stone venue for the heir.

I believe the decision on venue is rather more fluid that we think. But I concede that St George's Chapel is more likely than my favourite choice of venue of York Minster.

Moonmaiden23 · #**131** 09-30-2019, 02:05 PM

Even though Beatrice lives at St James Palace, I do think that the Chapel Royal is too small to accommodate all the people that the couple will want to/have to/need to invite.

Anyway I wish they'd tell us already!

rob2008 · #**132** 09-30-2019, 02:12 PM

I wonder if Prince Philip will attend.

Mirabel · #**133** 09-30-2019, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacknch

A low-key wedding at Westminster Abbey could be quite easily achieved without the expectation of it being a full-blown processional event. Many events have taken place over the years at the Abbey with the Royal Family in attendance (such as commemorative services etc) without a processional route from and back to Buckingham Palace.

That's what I thought- eliminate the procession of carriages, have everyone arrive by car or shuttle, and costs really wouldn't be much different.
Security would be similar to other events at the Abbey that are attended by the BRF.

Fijiro · #**134** 09-30-2019, 02:38 PM

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I wonder if Prince Philip will attend.

I hope he does.

Heavs · #**135** 09-30-2019, 02:44 PM

I assume that if the wedding is held in the UK and Prince Phillip is well, he will attend. He attended her sister's.

I wouldn't mind if they really wanted to get married in the Abbey but I think it would still be highly controversial in the press what with the scandal surrounding Andrew and worries about austerity under Brexit or even if Brexit doesn't happen etc.

There are a lot of ways to make it cheaper and smaller but for Eugenie's it's clear the Yorks didn't want small. Bea might be a different matter but I think if they had the Abbey, they'd want to go big.

Kataryn · #**136** 09-30-2019, 02:52 PM

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I assume that if the wedding is held in the UK and Prince Phillip is well, he will attend. He attended her sister's.

I wouldn't mind if they really wanted to get married in the Abbey but I think it would still be highly controversial in the press what with the scandal surrounding Andrew and worries about austerity under Brexit or even if Brexit doesn't happen etc.

There are a lot of ways to make it cheaper and smaller but for Eugenie's it's clear the Yorks didn't want small. Bea might be a different matter but I think if they had the Abbey, they'd want to go big.

One should not forget that the Yorks have no family home in London, but a rather large one near Windsor Castle. So on imagining that Sarah wants to be the main organisator of the wedding along with Beatrice, St. George's chapel is a much more likely venue than any in London. And I don't see Bea as placed so close to the throne that she has to marry in the capital, rather a little bit smaller at the family seat Windsor Castle/Royal Lodge with maybe Frogmore thrown in so this venue gets a bit more usage. But please, Bea, no open carriage ride through Windsor town...

Osipi · #**137** 09-30-2019, 02:55 PM

Its Colonel Mustard, in the library with the candlestick.

OOPs. Sorry. Wrong speculation.

duchesschicana · #**138** 09-30-2019, 03:38 PM

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Beatrice was at Amedeo of Belgium's wedding in Italy. He also attended the masked Ball at Windsor to mark her 18th birthday. I would be very surprised if he and his wife are not invited to her wedding.

Pavlos and Marie Chantal of Greece attended Eugenie's wedding with at least one of their children. They will probably be at Beatrice's nuptials.

Let's not even get started on the Mapelli-Mozzi, with their familial and friendship ties to
Italian and British high society.

Come to think of it, even though it will not happen the potential for a very large and varied guest list might be the reason some book makers are suggesting the wedding will take place at Westminster Abbey.

Agreed, Queen Reina and her family could attend as well she has vacationed with her son and attended Salma's graduation at Sandhurst, she seems on friendly terms with them. Not to mention some ambassadors, etc. lt will be a luxerious- big wedding either way. I thnk it all be more private as they didnt do an interview and what not. So I dont think it will be on tv still holding out hope for a live stream.

HighGoalHighDreams · #**139** 09-30-2019, 05:32 PM

In a world where we can be sure of few things, that Beatrice will not be getting married in Westminster Abbey is one of them.

This will surely be a stunning wedding and I am very excited for Beatrice.

Moonmaiden23 · #**140** 09-30-2019, 06:43 PM

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I wonder if Prince Philip will attend.

Well, he attended Eugenie's. I think if he is healthy and able to do so he will attend Beatrice's as well.

I am more curious as to whether the Duchess of Cornwall will not attend due to another "longstanding commitment"....like the opening of some dairy farm somewhere

ETA: If I don't get to see this wedding on TV on live stream I will have a FIT.