Beatrice and Edoardo: Wedding Suggestions and Musings Thread

[sjetajiem]

If you want to see the wedding I think you will have to go and make pics yourself (if allowed).
It will be a compleet private affair like the noble weddings in Germany f.e.

[Hallo girl]

Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23

Of course. They will not broadcast the one I really wanted to see.

I take it, that you want to see Beatrice, if not who?

[sjetajiem]

B.t.w. It is probably a strong wish of the bride (and groom) to keep her wedding private!!!

[Katymcwaity]

In some ways, who wants the extra pressure of TV cameras at your wedding? Of course, if it was televised, it wouldn’t have been about the happy couple and it would distracted/spoiled the day. Tbf, I do think wedding ceremonies are overated and sometimes think that having a civil ceremony is just as good. Maybe its an opportunity for Beatrice to have the ceremony she wants and she won’t have the world and his wife chipping in about(although that kind of thing never stops -)

[Osipi]

One thing we'll never know really is if this wedding isn't televised because its what Beatrice wants or that Andrew doesn't have the "clout" anymore to insist that it be televised. Regardless, I'm sure Beatrice and Edo will have a beautiful wedding among friends and family and we'll get pictures released.

I also was looking forward to watching this wedding on TV. I'm a sucker for royal weddings from the grandeur of the venue, to the cute children in the bridal party to the gown and tiara and all aspects of the ceremony.

Ah well.... probably will be a long time now before another televised royal wedding.

[Pranter]

My guess is after Beatrice we won't see another Royal wedding till George or Charlotte marry...if we are still around! lol


LaRae

[duchesschicana]

Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23

Of course. They will not broadcast the one I really wanted to see.

Originally Posted by princess carmen

I loved seeing Eugenie's wedding. As the Queen's granddaughter I think she had the wedding she wanted and I don't see her or sister as lesser they are royal princesses.

Originally Posted by Osipi

One thing we'll never know really is if this wedding isn't televised because its what Beatrice wants or that Andrew doesn't have the "clout" anymore to insist that it be televised. Regardless, I'm sure Beatrice and Edo will have a beautiful wedding among friends and family and we'll get pictures released.

I also was looking forward to watching this wedding on TV. I'm a sucker for royal weddings from the grandeur of the venue, to the cute children in the bridal party to the gown and tiara and all aspects of the ceremony.

Ah well.... probably will be a long time now before another televised royal wedding.

I wanted to to see the wedding too, but IF Edo and Bea want things private I respect that.

Originally Posted by sjetajiem

B.t.w. It is probably a strong wish of the bride (and groom) to keep her wedding private!!!

Yes if true ,I’m sure the royal family would find a way to broadcast the wedding, if the couple didnt mind, but It was obvious from the get go things were going to be a bit different , and couple may have wanted more privacy. They didn’t do a interview or send out enegagements cards to the public. When they announced it seemed like the couple was trying to fly under the radar, itwas during the Sussex tour, it was as if to say nothing to see herefolks, and not much info is known. I’m sure the couple would want things more private due to obvious reasons and of course Wolfe, Edo seems very protective of him.

Originally Posted by sjetajiem

If you want to see the wedding I think you will have to go and make pics yourself (if allowed).
It will be a complete private affair like the noble weddings in Germany f.e.

I might be lucky and have a spy there to take Pics for me , but knowing my luck they wont even let members of the public know the location and day :( :P *fingers crossed Wouldnt be surprised if one day we wake up to find she is married.

Originally Posted by Katymcwaity

In some ways, who wants the extra pressure of TV cameras at your wedding? Of course, if it was televised, it wouldn’t have been about the happy couple and it would distracted/spoiled the day. Tbf, I do think wedding ceremonies are overated and sometimes think that having a civil ceremony is just as good. Maybe its an opportunity for Beatrice to have the ceremony she wants and she won’t have the world and his wife chipping in about(although that kind of thing never stops -)

Wife? I dont think there was evidence he was married before Bea. Obviously, he had a child though, but yes I get what you are saying..

[Moonmaiden23]

Originally Posted by Hallo girl

I take it, that you want to see Beatrice, if not who?

I want to see this couple get married! I have been rooting for Beatrice because I have always felt like she is the underdog. I like her with Edoardo and I want to see their wedding.

[tommy100]

I thought it had been said all along Beatrice and Edo wanted a smaller, more private wedding than Eugenie's so not having it broadcast automatically makes it so. Id love to know if the channels actually passed on showing it or were never given the opportunity to.

TBH I always believed if it hadn't fitted pretty much into their usual This Morning show I'm not ITV would have shown the wedding.

Sounds to me Beatrice is going to have something a bit like Gabriella, maybe a few pictures afterwards, possibly you never know footage of arrivals/departures especially if they are inside the Castle walls with a small and very supportive crowd.

[sjetajiem]

I think Lady Gabriella's wedding was more or less semi-private, with pics at the arrival and at the departure.
I even doubt that there will be pictures of Beatrice and Edo on their wedding-day for the public.
They are said to have wished a private wedding in Italy, but that would have been too difficult for the grandparents to be present.

I expect that they will announce one of these days that their wedding will be private and that the date will be known afterwards.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by Marengo

The decision is understandable indeed but a great pity for us royalty watchers. I was looking forward to seeing the wedding as Princess Beatrice seems to have some connections to some mainland European royals and nobles, so that would have been interesting as well. Considering the circumstances I fear that we will only see a picture of the bridal couple and that is that.

In the Netherlands all four weddings of the Van Vollenhoven princes were broadcasted. They are in a simular position as Beatrice and Eugenie. Thus I did not find the decision to broadcast Eugenie's wedding very strange, the only strange thing was that it was not done by the public broadcaster.

Same here. I also thought it rather strange that the public broadcaster would not televise the wedding of one of their own royal prince(sse)s - it's not that they have that many of them in this generation (only 4).

In the Netherlands, next to the current king; the weddings of his two brothers (of whom one lost his 3rd place in line to the throne upon marrying) and of his Oranje-Nassau princely cousins (places 5 (Maurits), 6 (Bernhard) and 10 (both Pieter-Christiaan and Floris; as P-C had lost his place upon marrying 2 months earlier; as did Floris himself upon marrying) were all broadcasted live.

Interestingly, at the time of their respective televised church weddings Friso, Pieter-Christiaan and Floris were no longer in line to the throne as they lost their place at the moment they contracted a civil marriage either at the same day (Friso) or 2 days earlier (P-C and Floris)… But nobody made a point about that; it were princes of Orange-Nassau getting married.

Originally Posted by Biri

I had in mind their position during their weddings.

All the more reason for Beatrice's and Eugenie's weddings to be broadcasted. They are grandchildren of the current monarch not grandchildren of the previous one/nieces of the current one. If even those of princely 'nephews' of the monarch are broadcast (3rd degree); why not of prince(ss)ly granddaughters (2nd degree).

Regarding Beatrice and Edo: just hoping that we will somehow still see the guests arrive; as I expect a rather large royal and noble turnout.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by Pranter

My guess is after Beatrice we won't see another Royal wedding till George or Charlotte marry...if we are still around! lol


LaRae

No worries; there are still sufficient other royal families around to provide you with royal weddings until George and Charlotte (and Louis I assume) are ready to get married

You might need to wait some more years for the big affairs as the older ones of the future queens and king just reached or are getting closer to reaching adulthood. But most of them will most likely get married before George - as they are about 10 years his senior.

[Curryong]

As both bride and groom and the bride's family have such a large circle of friends I'm still thinking it will be St George's (packed to the brim) but photos of some better known guests and the wedding party only. I just think it will be St George's for better privacy and for the convenience of Beatrice's grandparents as well. In the late Spring.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by Sister Morphine

Actually, there's a difference between the Royal House and the Royal Family. As grandchildren of the sovereign in the female line, Peter and Zara are members of the royal family, but not the royal house. They're invited to all formal events like weddings, funerals, Trooping the Colour, etc., and they'll no doubt be invited to Charles's coronation one day, but they don't undertake any official duties, and they don't receive an allowance from the Privy Purse. That sets them apart from William, Harry, and their wives.

My point was that, like Beatrice and Eugenie, they have one royal and non-royal parent. They're coming from a similar position — grandchildren of the sovereign. As I also pointed out, Lady Louise and Viscount Severn, grandchildren of the sovereign as well, probably won't have televised weddings either, not because they aren't members of the Royal House (they are), but because outside of people like us who post on message boards like these, who really cares?

Nonetheless, there is a big difference: Beatrice and Eugenie are 'their ROYAL highnesses' (so royal) - princess B/E (of York); Peter and Zara are just that: Mr Peter and Mrs Mike (not royal). You may like it or not: but it the royal and noble world it makes a difference whether it is your father who is a royal or your mother. In the first case, you might be a royal too (depends on the country but otherwise normally titled or in the UK a Lord/Lady), in the second case, you are only a royal if your mother happens to be in direct line to the throne. Peter and Zara's mother isn't as she has 3 brothers.

Louise and James are outliers in that they should have been princess and prince but instead it was decided they would be known as a mere Lady and Lord (Viscount); nonetheless, even they are treated differently that their cousins Peter and Zara who never rode in a carriage during Trooping, while Louise did (so, she was treated as if she were a royal highness).

[Moonmaiden23]

Originally Posted by Somebody

No worries; there are still sufficient other royal families around to provide you with royal weddings until George and Charlotte (and Louis I assume) are ready to get married

You might need to wait some more years for the big affairs as the older ones of the future queens and king just reached or are getting closer to reaching adulthood. But most of them will most likely get married before George - as they are about 10 years his senior.

Exactly. I am thinking Nikolai of Denmark, Alexandra of Lux, and Lisa Brabant just to name a few.

Things will by no means be slow on the Royal weddings watch!

[sophie25]

Originally Posted by Osipi

One thing we'll never know really is if this wedding isn't televised because its what Beatrice wants or that Andrew doesn't have the "clout" anymore to insist that it be televised. Regardless, I'm sure Beatrice and Edo will have a beautiful wedding among friends and family and we'll get pictures released.

I also was looking forward to watching this wedding on TV. I'm a sucker for royal weddings from the grandeur of the venue, to the cute children in the bridal party to the gown and tiara and all aspects of the ceremony.

Ah well.... probably will be a long time now before another televised royal wedding.

Exactly. It's one thing to say B dosn't want it televised but then she can't say much else since no TV channel wants to do it anyway.

[Tatiana Maria]

While I am not expecting the wedding to be broadcast, has it in fact been confirmed that it will not be? I have not seen an announcement posted.

Originally Posted by RoyalHighness 2002

Actually, they aren't royal at all. They may have the same degree of relation to the Queen as Beatrice and Eugenie but they aren't members of the Royal Family according to their mother.

Originally Posted by Sister Morphine

Actually, there's a difference between the Royal House and the Royal Family. As grandchildren of the sovereign in the female line, Peter and Zara are members of the royal family, but not the royal house.

All descendants of King George VI are at present included in the official list of members of the Royal Family. I don't think the expression Royal House is used in Britain.

https://www.royal.uk/sites/default/f...l_family_9.pdf

Originally Posted by Somebody

Same here. I also thought it rather strange that the public broadcaster would not televise the wedding of one of their own royal prince(sse)s - it's not that they have that many of them in this generation (only 4).

In the Netherlands, next to the current king; the weddings of his two brothers (of whom one lost his 3rd place in line to the throne upon marrying) and of his Oranje-Nassau princely cousins (places 5 (Maurits), 6 (Bernhard) and 10 (both Pieter-Christiaan and Floris; as P-C had lost his place upon marrying 2 months earlier; as did Floris himself upon marrying) were all broadcasted live.

Interestingly, at the time of their respective televised church weddings Friso, Pieter-Christiaan and Floris were no longer in line to the throne as they lost their place at the moment they contracted a civil marriage either at the same day (Friso) or 2 days earlier (P-C and Floris)… But nobody made a point about that; it were princes of Orange-Nassau getting married.

And more recently in Japan, the wedding reception of former princess Ayako Moriya (daughter of the first cousin of the then emperor and lost her position upon marrying) was televised. Every royal family has its own customs, but as some of Queen Elizabeth II's royal cousins had televised weddings and others apparently did not, it seems that custom does not point to a particular approach in Britain.

[Tatiana Maria]

Originally Posted by Somebody

No worries; there are still sufficient other royal families around to provide you with royal weddings until George and Charlotte (and Louis I assume) are ready to get married

You might need to wait some more years for the big affairs as the older ones of the future queens and king just reached or are getting closer to reaching adulthood. But most of them will most likely get married before George - as they are about 10 years his senior.

With monarchies such as the Saudis having thousands of royal princes and princesses there is probably no need to wait.

Originally Posted by Somebody

You may like it or not: but it the royal and noble world it makes a difference whether it is your father who is a royal or your mother. In the first case, you might be a royal too (depends on the country but otherwise normally titled or in the UK a Lord/Lady), in the second case, you are only a royal if your mother happens to be in direct line to the throne. Peter and Zara's mother isn't as she has 3 brothers.

That is true for the UK and most countries, but not for all (it does not make a difference whether it is your father or your mother in Spain, for example).

[HereditaryPrincess]

I was surprised that ITV broadcasted Eugenie's wedding to be honest - I expected a short YouTube coverage from the BRF's YouTube channel and Instagram coverage, but that's about it. I didn't expect Beatrice's to be broadcasted so this isn't surprising.

[victor1319]

I have no problem, that the marriage ceremony will not be televised... - albeit I wonder, if it would have helped, if Prince Andrew would have come to terms with a "Maxima aggreement" and in that would have stayed away from the church...